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Black Lives Matter: Domestic Terrorists or Freedom Fighters?

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Black Lives Matter: Domestic Terrorists or Freedom Fighters?

Postby Teryia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:44 am

This question is mostly for U.S. Citizens because that's where the movement is at its strongest and is conducting their activities. Anyone living in a country or region outside of the U.S. or have not lived in the U.S. at any time, I highly suggest you do some research. I don't mean go on the BBC, waltz over to the World News section and read as to what they say about BLM (Black Lives Matter) but rather you go to other sources and get the full scope of both sides: those who are proponents of BLM and opponents of BLM. There are those who hate bigotry and I'm not entirely opposed to it but I don't speak for the majority so keep things clean and don't call white people racists, cops racists, etc. because the majority of people in the world are not racist.

The mods will no doubt be scanning this topic if things get out of control so don't take things too far. If you wouldn't call a cop a racist, murdering, blood-thirsty Klansman in real life, don't do it on here or anywhere. I completely understand that there are people who genuinely believe that most cops are racist but making generalizations to push your point won't provide a a well-thought out argument or rebuttal and it will result in this becoming a weak thread. There are also people who believe most cops are not racist, but again saying that every cop that has ever shot a person is innocent is a generalization and it won't be tolerated.

I haven't seen any recent threads up to 5 pages not discussing this and as far as I'm aware posting this thread isn't against the rules. Anyway, I made this thread because BLM has recently been up in arms again with a couple of recent shootings.

As a final note, nobody here should be condoning violence against any groups of race, occupation, religion, etc. I do not want to see anyone here push for the killing of anyone. Whether you like cops or not you shall not say "F*** the police" and request we shoot them. As most of you are aware, black people are not the only people getting shot right now, as of late many cops have been gunned down.
In short, don't say kill the police and don't say kill BLM members.

Without any further delay, here's my opinion:

I would have to say that many recent activities of BLM and other Black Power groups cannot in any way be justified. Not too long ago, Baton Rogue bystanders witnessed three police offers have their lives taken away by former soldier, Gavin Long. Recent articles now say he made a rant video and had called killing police officers "a necessary evil." These actions are not acceptable in any way and are an example of domestic terrorism. These incredibly violent methods are demanding you support minorities or you're with the "Bad guys," and you too are an accomplice in their crimes against justice. In no way is this "necessary" and resorting to violence against innocent police officers is a heinous action and requires justice be brought to the shooter, not the police officers.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/b ... -1.2718431
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/baton- ... smsnnews11

I'll admit, I was slightly wrong about my previous statement about the U.S. Although most of the riots and protests are occurring in the U.S. it is worth noting that the UK has recently experienced a riot involving a stabbing. This is very recent however, but an example how this terrorism is spreading.

A large mass of BLM supporters proceeded to carry out a riot where a major conflict flares up and eventually a police officer is stabbed. This took place in the UK by the way. These acts of violence continue the message that you're either with them or against them and if you're against BLM you will become a victim of their violence. There must be something done about these unprovoked attacks soon or further events will become uglier and undoubtedly more brutal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l?ITO=1490

While BLM isn't confirmed to have done this, I must say that they had allegedly tossed a Molotov Cocktail into a police car. Nobody was harmed luckily and the fire was extinguished. The only evidence that points to BLM is a note left at the scene.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/19/em ... scene.html
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:45 am

Neither.

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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:46 am

Neither. They're a well-intentioned yet often misguided (dangerously so in some cases) protest movement.
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Postby Deutschen Demokratischen Republic » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:46 am

If you want my one hundred percent honest opinion? They're domestic terrorists on a small scale.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:46 am

That's a fine lookin' false dichotomy you've got there, citizen.
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Postby UIJ » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:47 am

Neither, just huge fucking idiots.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:51 am

Dominos pizza-domestic terrorists or freedom fighters????

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Postby The balkens » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:52 am

Completely missing the point and alienating others?

Neither.

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Postby Khadgar » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:53 am

Merizoc wrote:Dominos pizza-domestic terrorists or freedom fighters????


Depends, in the late 90s they were probably the former. No way their pizza wasn't a biological weapon.

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Postby Teryia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:53 am

Khadgar wrote:Neither.


Mind putting more thought and an explanation?

Wolfmanne2 wrote:Neither. They're a well-intentioned yet often misguided (dangerously so in some cases) protest movement.


Much better than previous statement. I don't consider their actions to have any nice intentions, they often resort to less peaceful means to push a point that is quite unsubstantiated. Even blocking the road isn't peaceful, it causes stress and strife.

Deutschen Demokratischen Republic wrote:If you want my one hundred percent honest opinion? They're domestic terrorists on a small scale.


A terrorist is a terrorist, even if their actions aren't grand. If that's the case, they are susceptible to laws that punish terrorists.

UIJ wrote:Neither, just huge fucking idiots.


Refrain from dropping F-Bombs and arguments that call them idiots with no other basis.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:53 am

Neither, largely what Wolf said.
Merizoc wrote:Dominos pizza-domestic terrorists or freedom fighters????

Freedom Fighters.

They deliver warm freedom to- no im not finishing that sentence actually.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:53 am

Merizoc wrote:Dominos pizza-domestic terrorists or freedom fighters????

Freedom fighters when I'm drunk and hungry. Domestic terrorists come the morning.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:53 am

Merizoc wrote:Dominos pizza-domestic terrorists or freedom fighters????


Terrorists, by far.
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Postby Talvezout » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:54 am

Neither.

I think it would be a bit accurate to describe them more as a movement rather then group, no?
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Postby Teryia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:56 am

Talvezout wrote:Neither.

I think it would be a bit accurate to describe them more as a movement rather then group, no?


Possibly it would be more accurate. If they're moving it's backwards.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:57 am

Teryia wrote:
Khadgar wrote:Neither.


Mind putting more thought and an explanation?


No, I thought my answer was concise, accurate, and a reasonable interpretation of the preponderance of evidence.

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Postby Teryia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:58 am

Khadgar wrote:
Teryia wrote:
Mind putting more thought and an explanation?


No, I thought my answer was concise, accurate, and a reasonable interpretation of the preponderance of evidence.


It wasn't any of the above. "Neither," isn't a complete sentence.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:59 am

Teryia wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
No, I thought my answer was concise, accurate, and a reasonable interpretation of the preponderance of evidence.


It wasn't any of the above. "Neither," isn't a complete sentence.


That's hardly a requirement. Be glad I responded with more than "No" the second time.

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Postby Talvezout » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:00 pm

Teryia wrote:
Talvezout wrote:Neither.

I think it would be a bit accurate to describe them more as a movement rather then group, no?


Possibly it would be more accurate. If they're moving it's backwards.


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Ignoring the politics of said statement, I would say it's more accurate because that's what BLM essentially is. There's no central head or central group, it's more a splintered ideology with some people in it because they honestly want to improve things, some people who are in it for less then scrupulous motives, some it for pure contrarianism, and some for no reason at all.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:02 pm

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Postby Mericoa » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:03 pm

They are racist ani-cop hate group. "What do we want dead cops when do we want it NOW!"-BLM
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Postby The balkens » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:04 pm

Herskerstad wrote:For the most part clowns.


Clowns actually know that their act is supposed to be funny.

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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:06 pm

The balkens wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:For the most part clowns.


Clowns actually know that their act is supposed to be funny.


Never found clowns or BLM funny.
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Postby The balkens » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:08 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Clowns actually know that their act is supposed to be funny.


Never found clowns or BLM funny.


I always found clowns to be like those toys that you find that your mom or dad used to be play with.

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