Reactionary Outbursts And Bigotry

[Conserative Morality]

Over the past year I've heard more overt racism than I have in the previous five. I've heard more overt sexism and homophobia than I've ever heard before, although I admit I grew in the 2000s, so that may not be a high bar. And all of it seems to trace back to a reaction towards minority rights groups. Even NSG hasn't been immune to it. I'm no ally of SJW types who prattle on about cultural appropriation and how privilege of any kind invalidates your voice, but this backlash towards minority communities is concerning me. Is it that these positions have been adopted out of spite, or has all the poking and prodding simply revealed the true opinions these people hid because they were socially unacceptable?

I'm not the kind of person who blathers on about perpetual decline. This will pass, I'm sure, as other outbursts of disgusting sentiment have. But are we just burying the problem until these people decide that minority groups have gotten too uppity again?

Discuss.

[Europe and Oceania]

Over the past year I've heard more overt racism than I have in the previous five. I've heard more overt sexism and homophobia than I've ever heard before, although I admit I grew in the 2000s, so that may not be a high bar. And all of it seems to trace back to a reaction towards minority rights groups. Even NSG hasn't been immune to it. I'm no ally of SJW types who prattle on about cultural appropriation and how privilege of any kind invalidates your voice, but this backlash towards minority communities is concerning me. Is it that these positions have been adopted out of spite, or has all the poking and prodding simply revealed the true opinions these people hid because they were socially unacceptable?

I'm not the kind of person who blathers on about perpetual decline. This will pass, I'm sure, as other outbursts of disgusting sentiment have. But are we just burying the problem until these people decide that minority groups have gotten too uppity again?

Discuss.

Thank Donald Turd, and the Tea Party for that.

[Galloism]

I believe Romney referred to "trickle-down racism".

Yeah.

It's definitely on the rise, at least temporarily. I think it was probably always there, but Donald saying it openly and publicly has shown people that you can say such things openly and publicly and... well, I guess you become a strong political figure.

[A Czecherboard]

Reactionary hatred is the least hateful form of hatred. Hating someone because of their actions can be justified. Hating someone because of who or what they are can rarely be justified.

Most Christians or Muslims wouldn't have a problem with homosexuals if lesbians didn't act so masculine, and gays didn't act so feminine. The majority would be perfectly fine with gays like they were in Ancient Greece or Rome. Manly as fuck.

Most racists would be fine with blacks and other minorities, if they didn't commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Nazi Germany had black soldiers in its ranks.

I believe it's better to hate someone because of what they do, and not what they are.

[The balkens]

its a re alignment of political positions.

Its that or trump.

[NERVUN]

Minorities have gotten stronger. They have found that they have allies and the Internet means that they are no longer in isolated communities.

This threatens certain persons in the majority (Fear of loss of power or status) who also find that the Internet means they too are not in isolation. Add in a general anger at their lot and...

[Freefall11111]

It's the dying cries of a loud minority as Gen X and the Millennials are growing to become a larger portion of the population. By the time Millennials are the employers and the politicians, it'll be over, and the thought of that disturbs the racists, the sexists, and those who feed on hatred.

[Kubra]

Most Christians or Muslims wouldn't have a problem with homosexuals if lesbians didn't act so masculine, and gays didn't act so feminine

lol do they\/

[Galloism]

It's the dying cries of a loud minority as Gen X and the Millennials are growing to become a larger portion of the population. By the time Millennials are the employers and the politicians, it'll be over, and the thought of that disturbs the racists, the sexists, and those who feed on hatred.

That seems a bit optimistic.

[The balkens]

It's the dying cries of a loud minority as Gen X and the Millennials are growing to become a larger portion of the population. By the time Millennials are the employers and the politicians, it'll be over, and the thought of that disturbs the racists, the sexists, and those who feed on hatred.

That seems a bit optimistic.

I mean, its as if Gen x and Millennials can be racist too.

[Conserative Morality]

It's the dying cries of a loud minority as Gen X and the Millennials are growing to become a larger portion of the population. By the time Millennials are the employers and the politicians, it'll be over, and the thought of that disturbs the racists, the sexists, and those who feed on hatred.

What concerns me is that I hear a disturbing amount from people my age and my parents' ages; that is to say, Millennial and Gen X respectively. By no means the majority or even close to it, but significant enough to be worrisome.

[Freefall11111]

It's the dying cries of a loud minority as Gen X and the Millennials are growing to become a larger portion of the population. By the time Millennials are the employers and the politicians, it'll be over, and the thought of that disturbs the racists, the sexists, and those who feed on hatred.

That seems a bit optimistic.

Hardly. Each successive generation has been substantially less racist and sexist than the last. Millennials are the first to grow up with the internet and widespread international travel from childhood, both of which make it substantially harder than ever before to demonise other people.

[Galloism]

That seems a bit optimistic.

Hardly. Each successive generation has been substantially less racist and sexist than the last. Millennials are the first to grow up with the internet and widespread international travel from childhood, both of which make it substantially harder than ever before to demonise other people.

I don't disagree it will improve with millennials compared with previous generations.

"it'll be over" seems a bit optimistic, though.

[Freefall11111]

Hardly. Each successive generation has been substantially less racist and sexist than the last. Millennials are the first to grow up with the internet and widespread international travel from childhood, both of which make it substantially harder than ever before to demonise other people.

I don't disagree it will improve with millennials compared with previous generations.

"it'll be over" seems a bit optimistic, though.

I should clarify I am talking mostly about the West, in case that makes a difference as to whether you think it's an optimistic prediction.

[United Marxist Nations]

Reactionary hatred is the least hateful form of hatred. Hating someone because of their actions can be justified. Hating someone because of who or what they are can rarely be justified.

Most Christians or Muslims wouldn't have a problem with homosexuals if lesbians didn't act so masculine, and gays didn't act so feminine. The majority would be perfectly fine with gays like they were in Ancient Greece or Rome. Manly as fuck.

Most racists would be fine with blacks and other minorities, if they didn't commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Nazi Germany had black soldiers in its ranks.

I believe it's better to hate someone because of what they do, and not what they are.

While these are for different reasons, neither of these statements are true.

Also, the Nazis didn't get too upset about blacks because that wasn't their immediate goal; their immediate goal was the extermination and enslavement of ethnic groups occupying the land to their east for the purpose of creating a massive German racial state.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Yeah, I've noticed to, especially towards Islam since a very small minority have been calling for aspects of sharia to be implemented in the west, and and an even smaller minority are terrorists, people, in a desire to defend themselves, lash out at the innocent majority. Not the first time it's happened, certainly won't be the last.

[A Czecherboard]

Most Christians or Muslims wouldn't have a problem with homosexuals if lesbians didn't act so masculine, and gays didn't act so feminine

lol do they\/

Generally yes, but there are exceptions.

Reactionary hatred is the least hateful form of hatred. Hating someone because of their actions can be justified. Hating someone because of who or what they are can rarely be justified.

Most Christians or Muslims wouldn't have a problem with homosexuals if lesbians didn't act so masculine, and gays didn't act so feminine. The majority would be perfectly fine with gays like they were in Ancient Greece or Rome. Manly as fuck.

Most racists would be fine with blacks and other minorities, if they didn't commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Nazi Germany had black soldiers in its ranks.

I believe it's better to hate someone because of what they do, and not what they are.

While these are for different reasons, neither of these statements are true.

Also, the Nazis didn't get too upset about blacks because that wasn't their immediate goal; their immediate goal was the extermination and enslavement of ethnic groups occupying the land to their east for the purpose of creating a massive German racial state.

The goal of the Nazis was to resist globalism, and expel the Jews from Germany, as they were filling it with pornography, bankrupting the people, and other generally distasteful activites. They didn't hate the jews simply because they were jews, they hated them because of what they did.

[Internationalist Bastard]

lol do they\/

Generally yes, but there are exceptions.

While these are for different reasons, neither of these statements are true.

Also, the Nazis didn't get too upset about blacks because that wasn't their immediate goal; their immediate goal was the extermination and enslavement of ethnic groups occupying the land to their east for the purpose of creating a massive German racial state.

The goal of the Nazis was to resist globalism, and expel the Jews from Germany, as they were filling it with pornography, bankrupting the people, and other generally distasteful activites. They didn't hate the jews simply because they were jews, they hated them because of what they did.

You mean what rich people sterotyped as Jews did?

[Kubra]

lol do they\/

Generally yes, but there are exceptions.

While these are for different reasons, neither of these statements are true.

Also, the Nazis didn't get too upset about blacks because that wasn't their immediate goal; their immediate goal was the extermination and enslavement of ethnic groups occupying the land to their east for the purpose of creating a massive German racial state.

The goal of the Nazis was to resist globalism, and expel the Jews from Germany, as they were filling it with pornography, bankrupting the people, and other generally distasteful activites. They didn't hate the jews simply because they were jews, they hated them because of what they did.

Generally yes? Cmon man, I'm willing to bet you don't move around queer circles. What authority do you have this on?

also lol da j00z
something something zyklon b

[Conserative Morality]

While these are for different reasons, neither of these statements are true.

Also, the Nazis didn't get too upset about blacks because that wasn't their immediate goal; their immediate goal was the extermination and enslavement of ethnic groups occupying the land to their east for the purpose of creating a massive German racial state.

Don't feed the Nazi after midnight, UMN.

[United Marxist Nations]

Yeah, I've noticed to, especially towards Islam since a very small minority have been calling for aspects of sharia to be implemented in the west, and and an even smaller minority are terrorists, people, in a desire to defend themselves, lash out at the innocent majority. Not the first time it's happened, certainly won't be the last.

Well, in the US, support for "aspects of Sharia" (since this is left vague, I will say that I mean certain restrictive laws but without the extreme punishments in Sharia) is a lot lower than elsewhere in the West (i.e. Muslims in the US are much more liberal than those in Europe). I don't know why that is though.

[Arach-Naga Combine]

Over the past year I've heard more overt racism than I have in the previous five. I've heard more overt sexism and homophobia than I've ever heard before, although I admit I grew in the 2000s, so that may not be a high bar. And all of it seems to trace back to a reaction towards minority rights groups. Even NSG hasn't been immune to it. I'm no ally of SJW types who prattle on about cultural appropriation and how privilege of any kind invalidates your voice, but this backlash towards minority communities is concerning me. Is it that these positions have been adopted out of spite, or has all the poking and prodding simply revealed the true opinions these people hid because they were socially unacceptable?

I'm not the kind of person who blathers on about perpetual decline. This will pass, I'm sure, as other outbursts of disgusting sentiment have. But are we just burying the problem until these people decide that minority groups have gotten too uppity again?

Discuss.

Because the bigots realize that their particular breed of bigotry is dying out, and there is a general backlash against respecting the freedom of those they are bigoted against. In the long run they're doomed, but in the short run they might wrestle back power for a time with this surge of activity. They're pushing trump towards POTUS, but only because they're going extinct. There's a lot more voiced bigotry because there's another side to rail against. Decades ago people didn't often mention gay people at all, because most people shared the same bigotry and it was pointless. It's like an anus: when it dies, the shit pours one last time.

[United Marxist Nations]

lol do they\/

Generally yes, but there are exceptions.

While these are for different reasons, neither of these statements are true.

Also, the Nazis didn't get too upset about blacks because that wasn't their immediate goal; their immediate goal was the extermination and enslavement of ethnic groups occupying the land to their east for the purpose of creating a massive German racial state.

The goal of the Nazis was to resist globalism, and expel the Jews from Germany, as they were filling it with pornography, bankrupting the people, and other generally distasteful activites. They didn't hate the jews simply because they were jews, they hated them because of what they did.

>implying the Nazis only exterminated Jews
Slavs, Poles, Baltic peoples, etc.

Nazis wanted everyone to their east either dead or enslaved; that was their goal, read up.

[Conserative Morality]

Well, in the US, support for "aspects of Sharia" (since this is left vague, I will say that I mean certain restrictive laws but without the extreme punishments in Sharia) is a lot lower than elsewhere in the West (i.e. Muslims in the US are much more liberal than those in Europe). I don't know why that is though.

Strong tradition of secularism, excellent Borg-like assimilation of immigrants through use of degeneracy and civic religion, and backlash against evangelical Christianity toying with the idea of Dominionism.

[Herskerstad]

To a certain degree I too see more third world feminist nonsense, and SJW's have really gone full steam ahead with laughable prospects. I am wondering if this is partially due to the increase of social media and exposure, added to the general culture of pressured consensus on moral matters. Both which will influence higher and higher up.