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Why are people classified as Races?

Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:42 pm

Have you ever wondered about this question?

What do you think? Should people be classified as different races? Should they not? What are your thought?

Personally, I think that being treated differently and classed differently due to the amount of melanin in skin is bad. They are still human aren't they? Why do varying melanin counts matter?
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Postby Anarchist Heathenry » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:59 pm

Race is a concept made up by various people throughout history to create "us" and "them" groups, distracting the masses from actual issues regarding their exploitation.

It's the oldest trick in the book: divide and conquer. If the rich can convince the poor and middle class to hate other poor and middle class people, they can get away with anything.
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Postby Great Feng » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:01 pm

skin color and culture differences mainly.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:01 pm

It matters because the racial groups look different. People are fundamentally visual creatures, sight being by far the most important of the five senses.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:01 pm

Because racists.
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Postby The Impossible Maze » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:01 pm

Because everyone needs to feel better than someone else. "Us" and "Them" need to exist.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:05 pm

Great Feng wrote:skin color and culture differences mainly.

So if someone has a different amount of melanin, it is right for them to be classified as 'different'?
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Postby Kar-Esseria » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:08 pm

'Us' and 'Them' mentality.

People fear what they don't understand, and they tend not to understand things that are different, so they easily develop prejudices and classifications. It's not something that was planned of course, it just happened.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:09 pm

Outdated pseudo-science that people today have an emotional attachment to.

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Postby Kar-Esseria » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:11 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Great Feng wrote:skin color and culture differences mainly.

So if someone has a different amount of melanin, it is right for them to be classified as 'different'?


Life already classified them as different when it gave them a different amount of melanin, people just put a label on it.

I'm not defending race, mind you, just pointing that out.
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Postby Leppikania » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:12 pm

Just a helpful note:
Saying "this man is innocent because he is white" is racist.
Saying "this man is innocent because he is white, and the previous witness said the killer was black" is not.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:15 pm

Leppikania wrote:Just a helpful note:
Saying "this man is innocent because he is white" is racist.
Saying "this man is innocent because he is white, and the previous witness said the killer was black" is not.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:17 pm

it justified the European takeover of the rest of the world.
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Postby Italios » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:20 pm

Ashmoria wrote:it justified the European takeover of the rest of the world.

Well it "justified" it during the times of the takeovers to the Europeans. Not so much for the conquered people.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:21 pm

Italios wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:it justified the European takeover of the rest of the world.

Well it "justified" it during the times of the takeovers to the Europeans. Not so much for the conquered people.


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Postby Czervenika » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:38 pm

to divide us. That's about the only explanation I can think of.
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Postby Jochistan » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:46 pm

Because we look different and have different structures in body form and different traits that can be grouped into basic (but pretty loose) categories.

Probably doesn't have an effect on intelligence or something like that though.
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Postby Teuberland » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:24 pm

The Impossible Maze wrote:Because everyone needs to feel better than someone else. "Us" and "Them" need to exist.


This is more of the reason for racism than race, and although this is probably true to a large degree, individuals of different ethnic groups have different bodies. For example, the descendants of yam farmers in Africa developed sickle-cell anemia as a countermeasure against malaria. Additionally, the article below claims that certain groups of Polynesians are more prone to obesity because of a trait that became useful to their less settled ancestors.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2014041 ... -evolution

While it can often be used for racist purposes, race itself has uses of its own.
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Postby Porksmouth » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:32 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:Have you ever wondered about this question?

What do you think? Should people be classified as different races? Should they not? What are your thought?

Personally, I think that being treated differently and classed differently due to the amount of melanin in skin is bad. They are still human aren't they? Why do varying melanin counts matter?


It's only negative if you make it that way. I would think it's similar why we call wild creatures "animals." Why is a cheetah called as such and a tiger called that? It sort of helps define differences in the world of cats. Sure, Americans of the past made being black an awful thing but, it really isn't. It's just unfortunate that is still lingering in the back of people's minds.I'm curious how we as a society are going to be in the future when those that are currently 60+ years old all die off, if that negative aspect will go away or be greatly reduced.

That said, I have no clue as to why anyone would call far east Asian (Chinese, Japanese, etc.) yellow. That makes no freaking sense.

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Postby Great Feng » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:33 pm

Porksmouth wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:Have you ever wondered about this question?

What do you think? Should people be classified as different races? Should they not? What are your thought?

Personally, I think that being treated differently and classed differently due to the amount of melanin in skin is bad. They are still human aren't they? Why do varying melanin counts matter?


It's only negative if you make it that way. I would think it's similar why we call wild creatures "animals." Why is a cheetah called as such and a tiger called that? It sort of helps define differences in the world of cats. Sure, Americans of the past made being black an awful thing but, it really isn't. It's just unfortunate that is still lingering in the back of people's minds.I'm curious how we as a society are going to be in the future when those that are currently 60+ years old all die off, if that negative aspect will go away or be greatly reduced.

That said, I have no clue as to why anyone would call far east Asian (Chinese, Japanese, etc.) yellow. That makes no freaking sense.

their skin is more bronze than yellow anyway.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:42 pm

The same reason that domesticated animals are classified as breeds, despite every breed of each animal being part of the same species.
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Postby Zoice » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:32 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:The same reason that domesticated animals are classified as breeds, despite every breed of each animal being part of the same species.

That's not an analagous situation. Humans are extremely genetically similar to eachother, compared to the diversity in other animals humans are practically clones. Comparing racial groups to dog breeds doesn't work because the difference is so tiny, by the standard of dog breeding, all humans would be the exact same breed.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:36 pm

Zoice wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:The same reason that domesticated animals are classified as breeds, despite every breed of each animal being part of the same species.

That's not an analagous situation. Humans are extremely genetically similar to eachother, compared to the diversity in other animals humans are practically clones. Comparing racial groups to dog breeds doesn't work because the difference is so tiny, by the standard of dog breeding, all humans would be the exact same breed.

A dog is nothing more than a domesticated wolf. All dog breeds are still apart of the same species, and different breeds can mate and produce viable offspring.

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Postby Zoice » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:04 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Zoice wrote:That's not an analagous situation. Humans are extremely genetically similar to eachother, compared to the diversity in other animals humans are practically clones. Comparing racial groups to dog breeds doesn't work because the difference is so tiny, by the standard of dog breeding, all humans would be the exact same breed.

A dog is nothing more than a domesticated wolf. All dog breeds are still apart of the same species, and different breeds can mate and produce viable offspring.

Right. And yet, genetic diversity among humans is so small that by the standards of dogs, we would all be the same breed. We aren't different breeds, just slightly different looking versions of the same one.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:36 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:Have you ever wondered about this question?

What do you think? Should people be classified as different races? Should they not? What are your thought?

Personally, I think that being treated differently and classed differently due to the amount of melanin in skin is bad. They are still human aren't they? Why do varying melanin counts matter?

People aren't classified by "race" in biology, or in most countries.
People are classified by "race" in America.

Considering how America is a democracy, it's evidently what a plurality of the American electors want.
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