The Brazilian Politics Discussion Thread

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:47 pm

If you watch CNN or is a fan of our politics, you know Brasil is goingo through crazy things right now. Scandals everwhere, an ex-president becoming chief of staff and then, quickly being kick out, AND a possibly an impecheament, with PMDB, the bloody vice-president leaving the gorvenment coalition, it seems like that is what will happen.
Opposition politician being kicked out of their marchs, a far-right politician gaining support, PT's voter saying that their opponents are doing nothing short than coup, the president calling it a "soft coup", things are crazy right now over here seems like it's in a breaking point (with people supporting military intervetion), I ask what do you think it's gonna happen?
I personaly feel like Dilma shouldn't be impeached but i do think she should resign, she just can't govern, altough Temer sucks so much, just an opportunist dick, corruption needs to be stop wherever it exists, corruption doesn't have a party neither should the people.

A few links about it
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/30/ameri ... index.html
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/ ... -tick-tock
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/03 ... .html?_r=0

Mod Edit to restore title

by **Ashworth-Attwater** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:57 pm

essa thread vai ficar tóxica em instantes lol

tchau

by **Khadgar** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:09 pm

I'll admit everything I know about the situation comes from this video. Sounds like there needs to be a massive investigation from top to bottom and a lot of bastards need to get locked up.

by **Diopolis** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:54 pm

Brazil used to be a monarchy. Yall have a modern day monarchist party?

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:56 pm

Diopolis wrote:Brazil used to be a monarchy. Yall have a modern day monarchist party?

Nope. Although I know from a news story a few years ago "Dom Pedro" still has living descendents

by **Diopolis** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:57 pm

Of Danishes wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Brazil used to be a monarchy. Yall have a modern day monarchist party?

Nope. Although I know from a news story a few years ago "Dom Pedro" still has living descendents

Pity. I guess I can save my partisanship for supporting humanist league of solidarity.

by **Ashworth-Attwater** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:04 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Of Danishes wrote:Nope. Although I know from a news story a few years ago "Dom Pedro" still has living descendents

Pity.

no

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:21 pm

It looks like Brazilian politics is a total mess right now. There needs to be a deep investigation into corruption and everyone involved should be removed from office.

by **Major-Tom** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:24 pm

Ok, so first thing on the agenda, someone should probably remove Dilma from office in a democratic fashion. Secondly, Brazil needs to elect a leader who can deliver neoliberal reforms, as opposed to the same old corrupt bullshit.

Thirdly, someone should probably exile Dilma to the worst favelas of Rio, because, srsly, fuck Dilma Rouseff.

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:26 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Ok, so first thing on the agenda, someone should probably remove Dilma from office in a democratic fashion. Secondly, Brazil needs to elect a leader who can deliver neoliberal reforms, as opposed to the same old corrupt bullshit.

Thirdly, someone should probably exile Dilma to the worst favelas of Rio, because, srsly, fuck Dilma Rouseff.

They should have elected Aecio Neves.

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:32 pm

About purging corrupt politicians I'm for that! However the thing is Dilma has not been indicted with corruption or directly linked wich makes me think she shouldn't be impeached. The current impeachemment procedures are for something i don't know how to tranlate... Basicly her administration is accused of a lighter form ok cooking the books, however in brazilian law you can only be impeached for crimes of personal responsability wich wasn't proved. As I said i would love if she resigned, even if it ment the dick vice-president assuming, but they currently have no ground for impeachment. At least that's my opinion.

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:36 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Ok, so first thing on the agenda, someone should probably remove Dilma from office in a democratic fashion. Secondly, Brazil needs to elect a leader who can deliver neoliberal reforms, as opposed to the same old corrupt bullshit.

Thirdly, someone should probably exile Dilma to the worst favelas of Rio, because, srsly, fuck Dilma Rouseff.

I know they are called the worker's party and all, but they are neoliberal, granted they want to privatize every public company, still neoliberals.
Fun fact: Brasil's party's names means nothing... The most homophobic and pro-gun ownership and rather racist, Bolsonaro was at the Progressive Party, he changed to be able to run for president. The social democrats(PSDB) are neoliberals to the bone (also they are what we consider right wing). of course there are exceptions

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:37 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Ok, so first thing on the agenda, someone should probably remove Dilma from office in a democratic fashion. Secondly, Brazil needs to elect a leader who can deliver neoliberal reforms, as opposed to the same old corrupt bullshit.

Thirdly, someone should probably exile Dilma to the worst favelas of Rio, because, srsly, fuck Dilma Rouseff.

They should have elected Aecio Neves.

*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*
that cocaine sniffer is a moron,only got to be where he is by been nephew to a president

by **Calimera II** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:14 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Thirdly, someone should probably exile Dilma to the worst favelas of Rio, because, srsly, fuck Dilma Rouseff.

The PT did actually achieve something for Brazil. I liked Lula's administration and Dilma is the continuation of Lula's political project. Broadening the rights of the workers, making Brazil a more equal place and promote inter-South American relationships is not bad at all. Moreover, I like Dilma's brave fight against the dicatorship in Brazil. Dilma Coração Valente.
However, the corruption scandal is an enormous problem. Her action of placing Lula in her government can be seen as an act of impunity. If Lula and Dilma are found guilty I will be extremely disappointed; and angered at them. Furthermore, Dilma, fix the damn economy.

Major Tom, Dilma appointed a neoliberal economist as Minister of Economy at the beginning of her second term.

by **Ashworth-Attwater** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:16 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Ok, so first thing on the agenda, someone should probably remove Dilma from office in a democratic fashion.

Impossible.

Major-Tom wrote:Secondly, Brazil needs to elect a leader who can deliver neoliberal reforms, as opposed to the same old corrupt bullshit.

God forbid.

Geilinor wrote:They should have elected Aecio Neves.

LOLOLOLOL don't say this ever again tho

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:17 pm

Of Danishes wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They should have elected Aecio Neves.

*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*

I didn't know that, I see he's been linked to corruption recently. Is there someone who isn't linked to corruption?

by **Ashworth-Attwater** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:18 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Of Danishes wrote:*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*

I didn't know that, I see he's been linked to corruption recently. Is there someone who isn't linked to corruption?

Dilma. Also the left-wing opposition

by **Calimera II** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:18 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Of Danishes wrote:*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*

I didn't know that, I see he's been linked to corruption recently. Is there someone who isn't linked to corruption?

For your interest, in Latin America, politicians and the media often tend to link everyone to corruption. You don't like somebody? Say he's corrupt and broadcast it.

by **Geilinor** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:19 pm

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Ok, so first thing on the agenda, someone should probably remove Dilma from office in a democratic fashion.

Impossible.

Possible, if it can be proven that she did something wrong or illegal.

by **Ashworth-Attwater** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:19 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:
Impossible.

Possible, if it can be proven that she did something wrong or illegal.

that can be proven, though, which is exactly my point.

by **The United Colonies of Earth** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:22 pm

Of Danishes wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They should have elected Aecio Neves.

*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*
that cocaine sniffer is a moron,only got to be where he is by been nephew to a president

He's a what?

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:22 pm

In all fairness it's not like most of them aren't corrupted

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:24 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Of Danishes wrote:*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*

I didn't know that, I see he's been linked to corruption recently. Is there someone who isn't linked to corruption?

If you mean any party, no. People yeah. Rarer and rarer. I like a dude for instance not linked to anything but he's brother is corrupt it seems. Corruption is pretty widespread.

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:26 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Of Danishes wrote:*Cough* Linked to corruption *Cough*
that cocaine sniffer is a moron,only got to be where he is by been nephew to a president

He's a what?

Not joking, everyone know he likes cocaine. DUDE 500 KG OF COCAINE FALLED ON HIS FRIEND'S PROPERTY! http://www.talkingdrugs.org/445kg-of-co ... helicopter
IF IT WANS'T CRIMINAL ACTION IT SURE AS HELL WAS ATTRACTION BY DESIRE HAHAHAHAHAHHA

by **Of Danishes** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:28 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Thirdly, someone should probably exile Dilma to the worst favelas of Rio, because, srsly, fuck Dilma Rouseff.

The PT did actually achieve something for Brazil. I liked Lula's administration and Dilma is the continuation of Lula's political project. Broadening the rights of the workers, making Brazil a more equal place and promote inter-South American relationships is not bad at all. Moreover, I like Dilma's brave fight against the dicatorship in Brazil. Dilma Coração Valente.
However, the corruption scandal is an enormous problem. Her action of placing Lula in her government can be seen as an act of impunity. If Lula and Dilma are found guilty I will be extremely disappointed; and angered at them. Furthermore, Dilma, fix the damn economy.

Major Tom, Dilma appointed a neoliberal economist as Minister of Economy at the beginning of her second term.

The sad thing is people expected a full blown commmunist revolution more than corruption by part of Lula and the PT, one must make insane mental gymnastics to not see he's dirty

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