Judge gives green lite to alleged sandy hook families to sue

[Staythefout]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... judge-says

Let me "pre-face" this by saying that i do not believe this story for a second...there are too many inconsistencies...but that is for another time. Let's assume that the shooting actually happened at that there were 28 fatalities. What grounds are there for a lawsuit like this?? According to the article the families are suing because the xm15 is a military weapon and shouldn't have been allowed for sale to civilians...spoken like someone who truly knows nothing about firearms or the military. But still why is that grounds for a lawsuit? It doesn't take a howitzer to kill 6 year olds...

After sandy hook no efforts to crack down on gun ownership worked and a lot of local and state laws were passed expanding gun rights. If you weren't suspicious of the story to begin with you sure as fuck ought to be now since this lawsuit makes no sense and no judge should have done anything but throw it out of court. Do you think this is evidence that the whole story was bullshit? Should the lawsuit proceed and why or why not?

[The Felnian Colonies]

...alleged Sandy Hook families?

[Pope Joan]

If I run deliberately run over you in a Suburban, can you sue Chevy because it's heavy and powerful?

[Souseiseki]

...alleged Sandy Hook families?

some people think it was faked so obama could take away the guns

[Thanatttynia]

Alleged Sandy Hook families lmao

[The Sotoan Union]

I smell... r/conspiracy?

[Conserative Morality]

Sandy Hook conspiracies? Really?

[The ISCA]

...alleged Sandy Hook families?

some people think it was faked so obama could take away the guns

they're fuckwits with more glue in their brains than glia

[Grinning Dragon]

The judge is an idiot and the judge's parents were probably idiots as well.
I don't see how this is the fault of weapon's manufacturer. The weapon was legally sold, the weapon wasn't defective. The weapon was used in the commission of a crime, the whole blame is on the shooter.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

[Sediczja]

Point and laugh at this guy.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I don't see how Bushmaster (or anyone other than Adam Lanza) could be held liable for the actions that day. He stole that weapon and others from his mother, whom he also murdered. Also, Colt has been selling the AR pattern rifle on the civilian market since the early 60's, and Bushmaster didn't do ANYTHING to make that rifle any deadlier than the Colt AR15s sold then.

[Thanatttynia]

The judge is an idiot and the judge's parents were probably idiots as well.
I don't see how this is the fault of weapon's manufacturer. The weapon was legally sold, the weapon wasn't defective. The weapon was used in the commission of a crime, the whole blame is on the shooter.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

[Staythefout]

I don't see how Bushmaster (or anyone other than Adam Lanza) could be held liable for the actions that day. Adam Lanza stole that weapon and others from his mother, whom he also murdered. Also, Colt has been selling the AR pattern rifle on the civilian market since the early 60's, and Bushmaster didn't do ANYTHING to make that rifle any deadlier than the Colt AR15s sold in the 60's.

What even makes a firearm military grade anyway, is an m9 a military weapon?

[Staythefout]

The judge is an idiot and the judge's parents were probably idiots as well.
I don't see how this is the fault of weapon's manufacturer. The weapon was legally sold, the weapon wasn't defective. The weapon was used in the commission of a crime, the whole blame is on the shooter.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

the laws on the books

[Grinning Dragon]

The judge is an idiot and the judge's parents were probably idiots as well.
I don't see how this is the fault of weapon's manufacturer. The weapon was legally sold, the weapon wasn't defective. The weapon was used in the commission of a crime, the whole blame is on the shooter.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

Military grade? So because it looks scary and sorta kinda like one, then it must be one?

[Dooom35796821595]

If I run deliberately run over you in a Suburban, can you sue Chevy because it's heavy and powerful?

This is the right point. Of all the organisations to blame, the company is the last one. Sue the state, the police, the senate, the republicans, the NRA, anyone but the company who was legally selling stuff to people.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/14/474248535/sandy-hook-families-lawsuit-against-gun-companies-can-move-forward-judge-says

Let me "pre-face" this by saying that i do not believe this story for a second...there are too many inconsistencies...but that is for another time. Let's assume that the shooting actually happened at that there were 28 fatalities. What grounds are there for a lawsuit like this?? According to the article the families are suing because the xm15 is a military weapon and shouldn't have been allowed for sale to civilians...spoken like someone who truly knows nothing about firearms or the military. But still why is that grounds for a lawsuit? It doesn't take a howitzer to kill 6 year olds...

After sandy hook no efforts to crack down on gun ownership worked and a lot of local and state laws were passed expanding gun rights. If you weren't suspicious of the story to begin with you sure as fuck ought to be now since this lawsuit makes no sense and no judge should have done anything but throw it out of court. Do you think this is evidence that the whole story was bullshit? Should the lawsuit proceed and why or why not?

No, this is true. It's from NPR, and there has been much disscussion recently about holding compaines liable. Just the legal system. They have to label coffee as hot, ypu know.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Oh this gem of a conspiracy again. Anyway, I disagree with this lawsuit if I'm understanding it correctly.

[Occupied Deutschland]

The judge is an idiot and the judge's parents were probably idiots as well.
I don't see how this is the fault of weapon's manufacturer. The weapon was legally sold, the weapon wasn't defective. The weapon was used in the commission of a crime, the whole blame is on the shooter.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though.

Except it's not. Because purchasing a Bushmaster XM15 was perfectly legal under Connecticut law. Not to mention, of course, the sheer idiocy of holding manufacturers liable for illegal usages of their products, something the law specifically in regards to guns and generally as applied to pretty much everything have held as not something which arouses manufacturer liability.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

You, and they, would be incorrect then.

All of the above said, 'alleged' being used in the title is just stupid and the conspiracy theory needs to die.

[Thanatttynia]

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

the laws on the books

eh?

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

Military grade? So because it looks scary and sorta kinda like one, then it must be one?

No, but I can't think of any situation the average citizen might be in that requires one.

[Gun Manufacturers]

The judge is an idiot and the judge's parents were probably idiots as well.
I don't see how this is the fault of weapon's manufacturer. The weapon was legally sold, the weapon wasn't defective. The weapon was used in the commission of a crime, the whole blame is on the shooter.

Lawsuit needs to be tossed.

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

IIRC, Bushmaster AR pattern rifles aren't up to mil-spec standards.

[Risottia]

If I run deliberately run over you in a Suburban, can you sue Chevy because it's heavy and powerful?

No, but if I run you over with a Leo2A5 and comes out Krauss-Maffei sold it to me, a civilian, while claiming it was perfectly fine for civilian use...

[Gun Manufacturers]

the laws on the books

eh?

Military grade? So because it looks scary and sorta kinda like one, then it must be one?

No, but I can't think of any situation the average citizen might be in that requires one.

I have an AR pattern rifle (RRA LAR-15), and I use it for target shooting. They can also be used for hunting (when properly configured for the type of game you'd be going for), self/home defense, and collecting.

[Internationalist Bastard]

The weapon being legally sold is a point of contention, though. The families think it shouldn't have been sold as they think it's a military grade weapon - I'm inclined to agree with them.

IIRC, Bushmaster AR pattern rifles aren't up to mil-spec standards.

Built for police standards I think.

[Gun Manufacturers]

If I run deliberately run over you in a Suburban, can you sue Chevy because it's heavy and powerful?

No, but if I run you over with a Leo2A5 and comes out the Army sold me it although they knew I had no legitimate title to buy it, I guess the Army would be in for some rough time with the judiciary.

Good news for Bushmaster, then. Adam Lanza didn't buy the rifle he used in the shooting, he stole it from its legal owner (and then killed her).