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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:36 pm

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I tried that once and well...the Front happened.

I'd like to try to roleplay as a left wing senator, but god no one would take me seriously IC or OOC.

IDK it would be hilarious to see you RPing as a communist :p


Actually, I think I could argue communist worldview a lot better than a social democratic or liberal position - much my vitriol is reserved for corporations, which are merely the privileged pets of the State that are defended from all wrongdoings and have their profits privatized by the state's actors and their losses socialized.

Free Markets = Full Communism
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:38 pm

Skappola wrote:
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I tried that once and well...the Front happened.

I'd like to try to roleplay as a left wing senator, but god no one would take me seriously IC or OOC.

What was the front? I wasn't around then.


A party I made in Calaverde (?) that was basically me embracing xenophobic nationalism ala UKIP style for the lulz.
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Postby Keris Berani » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:47 pm

Menyediakan diri.

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Postby Luxdonia » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:47 pm

Keris Berani wrote:Menyediakan diri.

I'm sorry?
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Postby Skappola » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:50 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Skappola wrote:What was the front? I wasn't around then.


A party I made in Calaverde (?) that was basically me embracing xenophobic nationalism ala UKIP style for the lulz.

Fun. Why didn't it work out?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:03 am

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A party I made in Calaverde (?) that was basically me embracing xenophobic nationalism ala UKIP style for the lulz.

Fun. Why didn't it work out?


Nobody wanted to join.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:51 am

Skappola wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
A party I made in Calaverde (?) that was basically me embracing xenophobic nationalism ala UKIP style for the lulz.

Fun. Why didn't it work out?


Nationalism doesn't work in a country where the majority of the populace is mixed-race.
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Postby Lamaredia » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:34 am

Luxdonia wrote:
Keris Berani wrote:Menyediakan diri.

I'm sorry?

I'm guessing we have our first terrorist organisation, considering that "Menyediakan diri" means "Prepare yourself" in Malay.

EDIT: And Keris Berani is "Brave Dagger".
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Postby Britanno 2 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:30 am

Costa Fierro wrote:Yeah, but for the sake of the RP it'd be better if you joined an existing one. Social democracy, for the most part, doesn't really exist in Asia, at least not the kind you see in Europe or Anglophone countries.

Ok... so just a centre-left party then? I know nothing about Asian politics, but really what I'm looking for is just a party where a standard centre-left viewpoint would work.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:20 am

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Costa Fierro wrote:Yeah, but for the sake of the RP it'd be better if you joined an existing one. Social democracy, for the most part, doesn't really exist in Asia, at least not the kind you see in Europe or Anglophone countries.

Ok... so just a centre-left party then? I know nothing about Asian politics, but really what I'm looking for is just a party where a standard centre-left viewpoint would work.



Actually a centre-left social democratic party exists in Malaysia.
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Postby Arkolon » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:01 am

Atlanticatia wrote:
Britanno 2 wrote:Ok... so just a centre-left party then? I know nothing about Asian politics, but really what I'm looking for is just a party where a standard centre-left viewpoint would work.



Actually a centre-left social democratic party exists in Malaysia.

That's not a social democratic party, look at it, it is quite clearly a poor disguise for a Fund A Space Program Party with intent to colonise Mars for Malaysia.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:15 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Yeah, but for the sake of the RP it'd be better if you joined an existing one. Social democracy, for the most part, doesn't really exist in Asia, at least not the kind you see in Europe or Anglophone countries.

Ok... so just a centre-left party then? I know nothing about Asian politics, but really what I'm looking for is just a party where a standard centre-left viewpoint would work.

Join me. :D

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Postby New Werpland » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:17 am

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Britanno 2 wrote:Ok... so just a centre-left party then? I know nothing about Asian politics, but really what I'm looking for is just a party where a standard centre-left viewpoint would work.

Join me. :D

No, join the SocDem Hunchak Party.

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Postby The Sarian » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:24 am

Atlanticatia wrote:
Britanno 2 wrote:Ok... so just a centre-left party then? I know nothing about Asian politics, but really what I'm looking for is just a party where a standard centre-left viewpoint would work.



Actually a centre-left social democratic party exists in Malaysia.

Costa Fierro wrote:at least not the kind you see in Europe or Anglophone countries.
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Postby Britanno 2 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:39 am

Merizoc wrote:Join me. :D

What, hippie central?
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:55 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Join me. :D

What, hippie central?

Be a buddhist monk. It'll be fun.

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Postby Skappola » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:28 pm

Britanno 2 wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Join me. :D

What, hippie central?

Yeah, save the country and your soul at the same time!
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:47 pm

Lobby thread is open: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=381894&p=29150902#p29150902

Obviously more will be added later, and requests for a phrase to go in the thread's title are open seen as I am utterly incapable of coming up with something myself.

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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:52 pm

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=381895

There's the daily life thread as well. I wasn't sure what kind of OP to go with seen as all the other daily life threads had never been archived so I just went with the standard one used for the other threads.

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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:52 pm

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:07 pm

Lamaredia wrote:
Luxdonia wrote:I'm sorry?

I'm guessing we have our first terrorist organisation, considering that "Menyediakan diri" means "Prepare yourself" in Malay.

EDIT: And Keris Berani is "Brave Dagger".

Thanks for the translation. I suppose we'll be seeing them around.
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:26 pm

1. The Lobby and Misc. RP threads now have names.
2. Database / Yellow Pages is up: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=381910
3. I have nominated two new admins. Please discuss their candidacies in this thread, where the vote will start in 24 hours: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 5&t=381912

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Postby Not a Bang but a Whimper » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:52 pm

Since we don't have a Chamber or a Coffee Shop, I'll post this here.


Constitutional Convention Act

    Author: Ahmed Alef (Ind.)
    Sponsors:
    An act providing for definitions, calling for a constitutional convention, laying out the procedures for the convention, and establishing criteria for the adoption of a constitution.

    Section 1: Definitions
   
Constitution - permanent legislation establishing a state and government of Elizia.
Convention - gathering of representatives to draft a constitution.

    Section 2: Constitutional Convention
   
A constitutional convention shall be convened at Kentang, with representatives chosen in the elections organized by the UN Special Rapporteur. The convention shall not be adjourned before ten days of deliberation.

    Section 3: Procedures of the Convention
   
The general principles of parliamentary procedure shall be adhered to at the Convention. Any proposal may be submitted to the assembly for drafting and critique. With two seconds, any proposal may be submitted to the assembly for a vote. Submissions for votes shall be made with special emphasis to the motion, such that it cannot be accidentally ignored. The agenda of the Convention shall be as follows.

    a) On the first day the Convention shall elect a President and agree to or amend this agenda, then draft and submit proposals for a preamble.
    b) On the second day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals for a Bill of a Rights.
    c) On the third day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the foundations of Elizia and structure of its government.
    d) On the fourth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding devolution, federalism, constituencies, and provinces.
    e) On the fifth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the judiciary.
    f) On the sixth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the legislature.
    g) On the seventh day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding the executive.
    h) On the eighth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals regarding elections.
    i) On the ninth day the Convention shall draft and submit proposals for all other concerns.
    j) On the tenth day the Convention shall vote on all submitted proposals and adjourn.

    Section 4: Adoption of Articles
   
No article shall be adopted to the Constitution without three fifths the support of the Convention. The Constitution shall be enacted when the legislature approves it, and if they do not approve it then the Convention shall convene again.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:16 pm

This thread will be archived in three days. Please move all discussion to our shining new lobby: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=381894
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