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Silesian Independence OOC thread [TG to enter, MT]

Postby The Silesian Federation » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:02 am

This is the OOC thread for the IC thread found here.

Silesian Independence

This is a rp about the beginnings of my nation, all fictional of course.

One day, I wish for the Silesian Federation to be a country spanning what used to be Upper and Lower Silesia and the Sudetenland, in Poland (partly Germany) and the Czech Republic respectively. For this to happen, however, the people still have quite some way to go... let us see what this first push brings.

I will be controlling Poland, the Silesian people and, should the need arise, the Czech and/or German governments.

1. Act upon the standard forum rules
2. My word is to be taken as law
3. This does not have to end (too) violently, maybe try something diplomatic first
4. Be polite
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6. No one-liners
7. No Metagaming or Godmodding
8. Have Fun

and maybe be easy on me... while it is not my first rp as a player, it is the first time I have initiated one. ;)


Background:

With lower house parliamentary elections coming up in Poland, the newly founded Silesian Solidarty Party, active in the provinces of Lower Silesia, Opole and Silesia, have been estimated to reach a qualified majority in the constituencies of Walbrzych, Opole and Rybnik. The SSP represents a large part of the Silesian population who, having been ruled over by Austria, Prussia, Germany, Poland and Slovakia in the last century, have been greatly alienated by the national conservative governing party PiS.

The main party line is independence for all Silesian territories currently Polish possessions. The Polish government, which cannot accept such separatist views, has responded to the SSP's growing popularity and increased protests against PiS policies by reinforcing police presence in the affected regions. Branded as provocateurs paid by the EU to destabilise Poland and condemned for harbouring anti-polish sentiments, the people of Silesia grow increasingly restless.




Feel free to post any suggestions here or let me know if there is anything which can be improved. I hope to see you in the IC thread!
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Postby Pelelui » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:11 am

First!! And I like the concept! Good luck. :)

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Postby Koyanagi » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:25 am

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Postby North America and the Pacific Islands » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:28 am

This seems interesting
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Postby The Assorted Saharan Outposts » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:30 am

Interesting
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Postby New Estaris » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:51 am

Sure, I'll tag
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Postby Federal Union of America » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:31 am

Definitely tag.

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Postby North America and the Pacific Islands » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:41 am

Federal Union of America wrote:Definitely tag.

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Postby The Silesian Federation » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:55 am

It is nice to see that there is a level of interest, I will remember to set up an OOC thread first, amybe then there can be some more discussions concerning the background too... next time then.

I just uploaded a new post which is hopefully a nice read and gives some ideas for potential fellow rpers. I know that the woman in the pc is Szydlo but it fit so well otherwise, while I do not want to actually trash the existing Polish government :D
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Postby Federal Union of America » Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:16 am

North America and the Pacific Islands wrote:
Federal Union of America wrote:Definitely tag.

But I'm America !


There can be multiple nations taking up the same area on a map, that's just how II roleplay works. It's weird, I know, but a major rule of II/NS roleplaying is to just ignore any references to cartography, where nations are located, and how they reach each other and interact outside of one's own canon.

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Postby Ultimate Kyronia » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:35 pm

We got bunch of Blank Europe map with Provinces
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Postby The Silesian Federation » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:54 am

Ultimate Kyronia wrote:We got bunch of Blank Europe map with Provinces


I thought about that before but I personally did not want to pressure people to choose an existing country or be restricted to RL territories. If we keep it in the NS world, there may be more room to be creative. What do you guys think?
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Postby Federal Union of America » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:17 am

The Silesian Federation wrote:
Ultimate Kyronia wrote:We got bunch of Blank Europe map with Provinces


I thought about that before but I personally did not want to pressure people to choose an existing country or be restricted to RL territories. If we keep it in the NS world, there may be more room to be creative. What do you guys think?


Well, in typical II fashion, all the questions about maps outside of the RP's main canon are ignored, and thus multiple nations can be located in the same place on a map and fictional map-based countries can RP too. My advice is to just not say or do anything about the map outside of maybe a map of Poland in your canon showing your forces and government forces so people can be aware of where they're deploying.

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Postby The Silesian Federation » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:11 pm

So, what would you guys like to see in order to be a part of this thread? I would like if we could get a bit of a brain storm going (sorry Great Carlistan ;) )

My ultimate goal is to have my sovereign state. If it does not (entirely) work, we may have to set up a second rp :D

I would have had the rp start as a popular uprising in the constituencies of Legnika, Walbrzych, Opole and Rybnik. This large mass of land is impossible to control for the young activists and they are either forced to or voluntarily retreat to the banks of the Odra, still controlling a large part of the country up to the Czech border and as far east as Bielsko-Biala.

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There will be fierce resistance from the Polish government, as this would place the Silesian Solidarity Party in control of the large lower Silesian agricultural areas, important for wheat production, as well as the upper Silesian Industrial Area and the Rybnik Mining Area (I hope the translations match more or less I can give you the original Polish names if you so desire). This means that the cities of Katowice, Tychy, Rybnik, Chorzow etc. and Bielsko-Biala and Oswiecim to the east will be heavily disputed. Another tactically important detail may be a reservoir and a series of rivers and canals in the area.

Wroclaw itself will obviously a target, though not only due to prestige reasons. It is a traffic knot for major roads, railway and air ravel, connecting Warsaw and the rest of northern Poland with southern Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria etc.

If I messed up a lot with one of the pieces of information, feel free to point that out as most of my info comes either from the internet or some convenient maps and an Atlas.
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Postby Ultimate Kyronia » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:39 pm

The Silesian Federation wrote:So, what would you guys like to see in order to be a part of this thread? I would like if we could get a bit of a brain storm going (sorry Great Carlistan ;) )

My ultimate goal is to have my sovereign state. If it does not (entirely) work, we may have to set up a second rp :D

I would have had the rp start as a popular uprising in the constituencies of Legnika, Walbrzych, Opole and Rybnik. This large mass of land is impossible to control for the young activists and they are either forced to or voluntarily retreat to the banks of the Odra, still controlling a large part of the country up to the Czech border and as far east as Bielsko-Biala.

(Image)

There will be fierce resistance from the Polish government, as this would place the Silesian Solidarity Party in control of the large lower Silesian agricultural areas, important for wheat production, as well as the upper Silesian Industrial Area and the Rybnik Mining Area (I hope the translations match more or less I can give you the original Polish names if you so desire). This means that the cities of Katowice, Tychy, Rybnik, Chorzow etc. and Bielsko-Biala and Oswiecim to the east will be heavily disputed. Another tactically important detail may be a reservoir and a series of rivers and canals in the area.

Wroclaw itself will obviously a target, though not only due to prestige reasons. It is a traffic knot for major roads, railway and air ravel, connecting Warsaw and the rest of northern Poland with southern Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria etc.

If I messed up a lot with one of the pieces of information, feel free to point that out as most of my info comes either from the internet or some convenient maps and an Atlas.


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Postby The Silesian Federation » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:39 pm

Thanks. I will just see if there are any other responses before posting a more action-packed piece, if you do not mind.
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I'm done. Sorry guys.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:38 am

Has everyone forgot this RP?
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:37 am

No. I am assuming control of Poland ;).
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Postby McNernia » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:48 am

New Aeyariss wrote:No. I am assuming control of Poland ;).

I am interested and second this motion. Nihon is Polish so you shall have a very good Poland. Also Mcnernia as a fellow SACTO member will help ensure Polish integrity.
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Postby Ultimate Kyronia » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:06 am

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Postby Wielka Polska Narodowa » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:16 pm

Note that this is based on RL Units of Polish military. I will try to get you rough TO&E of each unit shortly. I modified structure of some units a bit, but I think that is what would realistically happen in case like this one.

This is current state, tasked with recapturing of Wrocław and Legnica, since I will announce partial mobilization in my post.

POLISH ORBAT:

[*] 11 Lubuska Armored Calvary Division
- 11th Command Battalion
- 17th Mechanized Brigade
- 10th Armored Cavalry Brigade
- 34th Armored Cavalry Brigade
- 23rd Silesian Artillery Regiment
- 4rh Zielonogórski AA Artillery Regiment
- 9th Warmiński Recoanissance Regiment (attached)
- 2nd Mazowiecki Pioneer Regiment (attached)

[*] 16 Pomorska Mechanized Division
- 16th Command Battalion
- 20th Bartoszycka Mechanized Brigade
- 15th Giżycka Mechanized Brigade
- 9th Armored Cavalry Brigade
- 1st Warszawska Armored Cavalry Brigade
- 11th Mazurski Artillery Regiment
- 18th Białostocki Recoanissance Regiment (attached)
- 2nd Inowrocławski Pioneer Regiment (attached)

[*] 6th Airborne Brigade

[*] 25th Air Cavalry Brigade

[*] 21th Podhale Riflemen Brigade

[*] 1st Pomeranian Logistics Brigade

[*] 10th Opolan Logistics Brigade

[*] 5th Engineer Regiment

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Postby Riysa » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:01 pm

Riysa here, supporting Poland/New Aey in this conflict. I'll mostly be taking over the football fanatics, assorted militia, and maybe a few dresizare, with some advisers to support Poland. I'll post an ORBAT here later.

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ORBAT for NATO before I move forward.

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