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Postby The Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:52 am

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Postby Comminor » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:24 am

Voting against to protect the sovereign right of nations to acquire nuclear weapons by any means and to use them freely in times of war.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:34 am

Comminor wrote:Voting against to protect the sovereign right of nations to acquire nuclear weapons by any means and to use them freely in times of war.

"Existing legislation already restricts the use of nuclear weapons."
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:31 am

Huh. Someone just submitted a resolution to repeal Nuclear Material Safeguards. While there is a resolution at vote that is clearly winning which does so. Are not repeal proposals for repealed resolutions removed?

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:36 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Huh. Someone just submitted a resolution to repeal Nuclear Material Safeguards. While there is a resolution at vote that is clearly winning which does so. Are not repeal proposals for repealed resolutions removed?

Not until this passes.

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Postby Leronto » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:57 am

does this repeal also put into play the idea of being able to start up nuclear reactors? nuclear reactors are one of the most fuel efficient ways energy can be produced. not only that but U-238 and U-235 can be used. U-235 can fission down to lead and U-238 can double beta decay into plutonium which will fission down to U-237 which we can shoot neutrons at fast enough to return to U-238 to restart the whole process. i think that by repealing this WA code would be very beneficial to many nations :clap:

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Postby Glorie » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:48 pm

"We feel conflicted on how to vote here: On the one hand, the protection of WA members is crucial, and repealing GA#351 will provide an opening that may allow anti-WA powers to act in hostility towards now unprotected WA nations. However, it is true that the wording of GA#351 is flawed in some ways.

As we would like to see a similar, more thought-out, but still effective Nuclear Arms Safeguard resolution passed, we feel it necessary to announce that we will only vote for the repeal if we can be guaranteed that a refined version of GA#351 is passed as soon as possible. Thank you."

*edited for clarity*
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:54 pm

Leronto wrote:does this repeal also put into play the idea of being able to start up nuclear reactors? nuclear reactors are one of the most fuel efficient ways energy can be produced. not only that but U-238 and U-235 can be used. U-235 can fission down to lead and U-238 can double beta decay into plutonium which will fission down to U-237 which we can shoot neutrons at fast enough to return to U-238 to restart the whole process. i think that by repealing this WA code would be very beneficial to many nations :clap:

U-235 and Pu-239 fission into two parts, typically with a weight distribution of 40/60.
Plutonium will never fission to U-237 and U-235 will likely not fission to lead.

U-238 is fissionable by fast neutrons, but that requires a fast reactor. I've never even heard of U-237 before, I was honestly surprised to hear it mentioned.
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Postby John Turner » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:15 pm

Glorie wrote:As we would like to see a similar, more thought-out, but still effective Nuclear Arms Safeguard act passed, we feel it necessary to announce that we will only vote for the repeal if we can be guaranteed that a refined version of GA#351 is passed immediately after. Thank you."

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:26 pm

John Turner wrote:
Glorie wrote:As we would like to see a similar, more thought-out, but still effective Nuclear Arms Safeguard act passed, we feel it necessary to announce that we will only vote for the repeal if we can be guaranteed that a refined version of GA#351 is passed immediately after. Thank you."

The you can for this in confidence my good man.

Glorie wrote:On the one hand, the protection of WA members is crucial, and repealing GA#351 will provide an opening that may weaken deterrent powers against the numerous anti-WA powers. However, it is true that the wording of GA#351 is flawed in some ways.

Parsons: Yes, yes, the legislation that you are proposing, stating that nations cannot be allowed to receive nuclear arms, knowledge, or material from other nations (without having developed them themselves), would actually be against the aims we noted in their statement.

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Postby John Turner » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:29 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
John Turner wrote:The you can for this in confidence my good man.

Glorie wrote:On the one hand, the protection of WA members is crucial, and repealing GA#351 will provide an opening that may weaken deterrent powers against the numerous anti-WA powers. However, it is true that the wording of GA#351 is flawed in some ways.

Parsons: Yes, yes, the legislation that you are proposing, stating that nations cannot be allowed to receive nuclear arms, knowledge, or material from other nations (without having developed them themselves), would actually be against the aims we noted in their statement.

There is nothing stopping those nations from approaching a bona fide nuclear power and asking them for help is there?
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Postby Paffnia » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:21 pm

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:05 pm

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After careful deliberation, I have chosen to follow my predecessor's established opinion on the target of this repeal resolution. I strongly support the protection of states' right to possess nuclear material. Nevertheless, "Nuclear Materials Safeguards" inadequately legislates toward that goal. It contains too many flaws, and leaves too much room for abuse, for me to defend its continued existence as active law. Therefore, I cast my vote in favor of this repeal, in hopes of a replacement that may address properly the faults of the target.
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The New English Commonwealth
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Postby The New English Commonwealth » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:51 pm

I'd be in favor of repealing this resolution if there were promise of implementing a stronger version.

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John Turner
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Postby John Turner » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:44 pm

The New English Commonwealth wrote:I'd be in favor of repealing this resolution if there were promise of implementing a stronger version.

Doesn't really matter. Unless you can scrounge up 13000 votes in the next 17 minutes it is going to pass.
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Postby Wrapper » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:04 pm

Repeal "Nuclear Material Safeguards" was passed 15,559 votes to 2,520.

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John Turner
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Postby John Turner » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:24 pm

Congratulations to the Wads on another triumph. Have a round at the bar and have Neville send me the tab.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:07 pm

I feel I should link the original thread of this resolution here as a matter of linking relevant posts. I will be updating the big thread (RexisQuexis) when the recent bout of activity subsides.

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