The Crimson Sea [Hiatus]

[Greater Hayaba]

IC:The Crimson Sea

Backstory
The Acadian Republic and the Imperial Federation of the Greater Hayaba are two rising great power in their region. Despite diplomacy, they failed to settle their overlapping claim to the La Perouse/Razeron Islands archipelagos in the waters - an area rich in natural resources - in between the two of them. With politics and military modernization on both sides call for a more decisive settlement it is only time when the two nation collide against one another...

Note:
- So, this will be a combination of a South China Sea and Falkland War conflict between GH and Arcadia/Whiteshore.
- Title changed from 'Rumble In The Pacific' , to Crimson Sea Over La Perouse/Razeron,to the current one, as this one I think will not be set in the Pacific anymore.
- RP starts a bit with world building elements to sync everything in the right place; create histories, characters - have fun with them!


Roleplay Parameters:

• National Information Center/ORBAT/List of Equipment
• Maps(Incomplete)
• Unified Timeline
• List of Dramatis Personae

Primary Combatants:

• Greater Hayaba (OP)
• Whiteshore as Acadia Republic

Reserved Invitation:

• Dewhurst-Narculis
• The Tarkanese Federation

Rules:

• Light and easy RP.
• Standard Pace at 250-500 words per post. (Very concise RP!)
• Standard NS Rules Applies[More Info].

Application?

• Drop a message, say you wish to participate, we'll see what can be done.

[Whiteshore]

Tag

[Greater Hayaba]

GREATER HAYABA

• CDR Kai Hideyoshi, Imperial Hayaban Navy, Captain of IHS Naga
• President Corialnus Armstrong
• LT GEN James Sakamoto

ACADIA REPUBLIC

• Captain Auriane Pleimelding, Commanding Officer, ANS Liberte

[Whiteshore]

Maybe Acadia and Hayaba are propped up by UCASIRE and SACTO respectably and when the UCASIRE v.s SACTO war starts, their overlords tell them to attack each other, which they do.

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Obvious puppetry is obvious

[Aeyariss]

Maybe Acadia and Hayaba are propped up by UCASIRE and SACTO respectably and when the UCASIRE v.s SACTO war starts, their overlords tell them to attack each other, which they do.

I prefer if we leave out SACTO in this one though.

[Whiteshore]

Maybe Acadia and Hayaba are propped up by UCASIRE and SACTO respectably and when the UCASIRE v.s SACTO war starts, their overlords tell them to attack each other, which they do.

I prefer if we leave out SACTO in this one though.

Okay, so, maybe Acadia and Hayaba's current spat is closer to "border dispute gone wrong" than to "war of conquest".

[The Tarkanese Federation]

Isn't like 70% of Hayaba under D-N control?

[Whiteshore]

Isn't like 70% of Hayaba under D-N control?

Ask Aeyariss.

[Aeyariss]

Isn't like 70% of Hayaba under D-N control?

Ask Aeyariss.

Technically right. Though "Hayaba" isn't the same as "Greater Hayaba".

Okay, so, maybe Acadia and Hayaba's current spat is closer to "border dispute gone wrong" than to "war of conquest".

Territorial dispute it is then.

[Whiteshore]

Acadia will be location-wise a Kergulen plateau which never submerged and it will be French culturally and ethnically. Acadia is home to 46.1 million people and has a GDP per capita of $29,700.

[Aeyariss]

Then this 'Greater Hayaba' shall have a population of, 60 million. Roughly about 30k GDP per capita. A regional power by RL standard and a medium size military.

What sort of dispute do you wish? South China Sea-like? Where both nation claims overlapping maritime territories?

[Whiteshore]

Then this 'Greater Hayaba' shall have a population of, 60 million. Roughly about 30k GDP per capita. A regional power by RL standard and a medium size military.

What sort of dispute do you wish? South China Sea-like? Where both nation claims overlapping maritime territories?

Yes, with the "war" being an undeclared naval one consisting of Khalkhin Gol-esque skirmishes?

[Aeyariss]

Then this 'Greater Hayaba' shall have a population of, 60 million. Roughly about 30k GDP per capita. A regional power by RL standard and a medium size military.

What sort of dispute do you wish? South China Sea-like? Where both nation claims overlapping maritime territories?

Yes, with the "war" being an undeclared naval one consisting of Khalkhin Gol-esque skirmishes?

Perhaps something smaller like that, could be marines amphib forces also involved.

[Whiteshore]

ORBAT for Greater Hayaba?

[Greater Hayaba]

ORBAT for Greater Hayaba?

• 120,000 Army
• 15,000 Marines
• 36,000 Air Force
• 44,000 Navy

Slightly larger than the Tarkanese.

[Whiteshore]

Acadia's armed forces is 250,000 men in total.

[Whiteshore]

Aeyariss, here is an ORBAT of the Acadian Armed Forces:
250,000 men
800 AMX-56 Leclerc MBTs
200 AMX-30 MBTs (mostly to provide some armored support to garrison units)
500 AMX 10 RCs
600 AMX-10P IFVs
100 CAESAR self-propelled howitzers
50 Véhicule blindé de combat d'infanterie IFVs
1 Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier
5 Horizon-class frigates/destroyers
8 Aquitaine class frigates
2 La Fayette-class frigates
175 Dassault Rafales
125 Eurocopter Fennecs

[Greater Hayaba]

Republic of Arcadia


Imperial Federation of Greater Hayaba

[Greater Hayaba]

IMPERIAL FEDERATION OF GREATER HAYABA

REPUBLIC OF ACADIA

Army: 120,000 Regular Soldier 320x Leopard 2 MBTs 60x PzH2000 SPGs 120x 155mm Howitzer 200x 105mm Howitzer 60x M270 MLRS 40x AN/TWQ-1 80x Pantsir-S1 500x Puma IFVs 40x Eurocopter Tiger 40x NH90 Air Force: 36x Eurofighter Typhoon 36x F/A-18 Super Hornet 36x F16 Block 60 44x Airbus A400M 60x NH90 24x EA 18G Growler 10x E-7 Wedgetail AEW&C 4x E-3 Sentry AEW&C Navy: 1x Charles de Gaulle Class Aircraft Carrier 3x Izumo-class LPH 6x Mistral-class LPD 3x Type 45 DDG 9x Atago-class DDG 9x F125 Class FFG 12x Type 212 SSK 6x Virgina-class SSN 8x MCMV 18x P3 Orion 66x NH90 Marines: 15,000 Marines

Army: 250,000 men 800 AMX-56 Leclerc MBTs 200 AMX-30 MBTs 500 AMX 10 RCs 600 AMX-10P IFVs 100 CAESAR self-propelled howitzers 50 Véhicule blindé de combat d'infanterie IFVs 200 155mm Howitzers 50 203mm howitzers Navy: 1 Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier 8 Mistral LPDs 9 Horizon-class frigates/destroyers 14 Aquitaine class frigates 25 Type 212 SSKs 2 La Fayette-class frigates Air Force: 175 Dassault Rafales 125 Eurocopter Fennecs

[Whiteshore]

Maybe Acadia and Greater Hayaba are sparring over control of an archipelago which is mineral-rich?

[Whiteshore]

Addendum to the Acadian armed forces:
8 Mistral LPDs
200 155mm Howitzers
50 203mm howitzers
4 Horizon class frigates/destroyers
6 Aquitaine class frigates
25 Type 212 SSKs

[Greater Hayaba]

Maybe Acadia and Greater Hayaba are sparring over control of an archipelago which is mineral-rich?

Yeah, I suggested that in the last TG. (Or was it Chatzy?) So what's the name for this archipelago in Arcadia?

Addendum to the Acadian armed forces:
8 Mistral LPDs
200 155mm Howitzers
50 203mm howitzers
4 Horizon class frigates/destroyers
6 Aquitaine class frigates
25 Type 212 SSKs

Hmm, so you saw what you left out there finally. Edit: Added to the table.

[Whiteshore]

Maybe the archipelago in Acadia could be named the La Perouse Islands after the explorer who discovered Acadia in 1788 and maybe Acadia controls 70% of it while Greater Hayaba is in control of 30% of the archipelago with the population being mostly comprised of fishermen and miners encouraged by their governments to settle the isles to prove they are serious about their claims.

[Greater Hayaba]

Maybe the archipelago in Acadia could be named the La Perouse Islands after the explorer who discovered Acadia in 1788 and maybe Acadia controls 70% of it while Greater Hayaba is in control of 30% of the archipelago with the population being mostly comprised of fishermen and miners encouraged by their governments to settle the isles to prove they are serious about their claims.

Sounds fine to me. But that also means we have to find a new territory for this so called La Perouse (Acadia)/Razeron Islands (Greater Hayaban). Miners? How about change it to oil field in the surrounding waters?