[DRAFT] Repeal "Nuclear Arms Protocol"

[Kouassi]

enacting that GAR #308 also known as "Nuclear Arms Protocol" will be null and VOID/

UNDERSTANDING that Countries and regions may use Nuclear Weapons.

ALSO REALIZING that Civilians may be targeted.

DEEPLY ALARMED that GAR #308 Will not be in effect if repealed.

CONFIRMING that any country may use weapons classified as Nuclear Weapons at any time.

THUS RESOLVING the debate on when countries may use weapons.

The General Assembly by repealing "Nuclear Arms Protocol" HEREBY:

Declare "Nuclear Arms Protocol" Null and VOID.

[Kouassi]

It would help a lot if you help me fix this.

[Wrapper]

Why, so you can nuke civilians? No, thank you.

[Kouassi]

Because we have a right too. People should not be held back at what they do. Making it null will stop the control and achieve world peace.

[Wrapper]

Because we have a right too. People should not be held back at what they do. Making it null will stop the control and achieve world peace.

Achieve world peace... by nuking civilians? Please explain how nuking civilians achieves world peace.

[Kouassi]

Nukes have to hit something. Look IRL When America dropped a nuclear missle on japan. They surrendered.


Nukes are use as defenses and to end wars.

[Normlpeople]

OOC: I'm seeing no actual arguement for nuking the repeal, and a touch of legislating in a repeal.

You will have to do better than this.

[Kouassi]

OOC: I'm seeing no actual arguement for nuking the repeal, and a touch of legislating in a repeal.

You will have to do better than this.

ok thank you for your opinion! Very much Helpful! I will try my best to fix this.

[Wrapper]

Nukes are use as defenses and to end wars.

Defense. Mmm hmmm. Because civilians are so much more dangerous than military targets.

Not going to happen.

[Kouassi]

yes and how a country uses its arsenal is not our right to control.

[Separatist Peoples]

Because we have a right too. People should not be held back at what they do. Making it null will stop the control and achieve world peace.

"No, you don't. Civilians have the right to live their lives without being killed. Deliberately targeting them with nuclear weapons is a violation of that right. Your right to swing your plutonium-tipped fist ends at the tip of the nose of 'the children', such as it were."

[Kouassi]

Because we have a right too. People should not be held back at what they do. Making it null will stop the control and achieve world peace.

"No, you don't. Civilians have the right to live their lives without being killed. Deliberately targeting them with nuclear weapons is a violation of that right. Your right to swing your plutonium-tipped fist ends at the tip of the nose of 'the children', such as it were."

Civilians live to die anyways. It is there fault for saying in the country and also there fault if they didn't have they governments build vaults (fallout 4) for them.

[Separatist Peoples]

Civilians live to die anyways. It is there fault for saying in the country and also there fault if they didn't have they governments build vaults (fallout 4) for them.

"Ambassador, that is the easily the most idiotic claim I have ever heard a representative here make. It is the fault of a civilian that they didn't uproot their entire lives for a war they didn't start? How exactly were they supposed to know a nuclear weapon was heading their way in order to take appropriate precautions? Are you seriously trying to justify their deaths because the government failed to re-enact a video game premise for the entire population?

"You're awful lucky nobody is going to start a nuclear war with the nation of Kouassi to prove a point, ambassador. Perhaps if it was your family in the sights of nuclear fire your opinion might be a little different, and not this inanity that you're pushing."

[Wrapper]

Ambassador, we appalled by your blame-the-victim philosophy. That said, take note, when both a staunch pro-nuke nation like CDSP and a staunch anti-nuke nation like ours tells you this is a very bad idea, odds are, it's a very very very bad idea.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Ambassador, we appalled by your blame-the-victim philosophy. That said, take note, when both a staunch pro-nuke nation like CDSP and a staunch anti-nuke nation like ours tells you this is a very bad idea, odds are, it's a very very very bad idea.

Parsons: If you think Bell represents a pro-nuke nation... then let a radical pro-nuke nation like ourselves tell you that too. We see no need to repeal the Nuclear Arms Protocol, as repealing it can be interpreted as nothing other than an attempt to legalise the offensive use of nuclear weapons against civilian populations. We will not be complicit in such an affront to civilised behaviours.

yes and how a country uses its arsenal is not our right to control.

Parsons: How a country uses its arsenal is entirely in our right to control. Nuclear weapons, due to their destructive power, in the manner of using them, will mean nothing other than an offensive attack on another nation which directly means war. On the other hand, the proliferation of nuclear weapons ensures peace by deterrence. Repeal of this protocol can mean nothing but endorsement of nuclear war.

Nukes have to hit something. Look IRL When America dropped a nuclear missle on japan. They surrendered.

OOC: Let me disabuse you of that notion. They didn't. Nor was it a missile, it was a bomb.

enacting that GAR #308 also known as "Nuclear Arms Protocol" will be null and VOID/

UNDERSTANDING that Countries and regions may use Nuclear Weapons.

ALSO REALIZING that Civilians may be targeted.

DEEPLY ALARMED that GAR #308 Will not be in effect if repealed.

CONFIRMING that any country may use weapons classified as Nuclear Weapons at any time.

THUS RESOLVING the debate on when countries may use weapons.

The General Assembly by repealing "Nuclear Arms Protocol" HEREBY:

Declare "Nuclear Arms Protocol" Null and VOID.

OOC: However it is, I should give you some level of proposal writing advice on this topic, whether I disagree with it be damned.

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[box]Understanding that nations may use nuclear weapons,

Realising that civilians may be targeted,

Deeply alarmed that 308 GA will not be in effect if repealed,

Confirming that non-member nations may use nuclear weapons at any time,

Resolving the debate on when nations may use nuclear weapons,

The General Assembly hereby,

Repeals the Nuclear Arms Protocol.[/box]

OOC: Note that your argument in favour of this is terrible and needs serious work. Currently, it is actually incoherent, and I mean that in the nicest of terms. In debate, we had a mantra: an argument consists of three things — (1) the statement; (2) the warrant, that is, the reason why it is true; and (3) the impact. Things lacking a statement are by definition unknown. Things lacking a warrant should be held as untrue and are nothing better than 'because I say so'. Things lacking an impact are irrelevant. Provide all three and you have a case. Right now, you don't.

[Wallenburg]

"This is perhaps the most asinine argument that I have ever heard, and I've debated with Ambassador Turner. Opposed many times over. Were this to ever pass, I can assure you that your nation would be the first to see nuclear weapons pouring in on your civilian population."

[The Silver Sentinel]

"This is perhaps the most asinine argument that I have ever heard, and I've debated with Ambassador Turner. Opposed many times over. Were this to ever pass, I can assure you that your nation would be the first to see nuclear weapons pouring in on your civilian population."

You do realize it is Ambassador Turner's delegation that authored the Nuclear Arms Protocol correct?

[Wallenburg]

"This is perhaps the most asinine argument that I have ever heard, and I've debated with Ambassador Turner. Opposed many times over. Were this to ever pass, I can assure you that your nation would be the first to see nuclear weapons pouring in on your civilian population."

You do realize it is Ambassador Turner's delegation that authored the Nuclear Arms Protocol correct?

"How on Earth is the target resolution's authorship relevant?"

[Kouassi]

I will be editing this a lot soon.


Nukes, should not be controlled. Damn, hippies get over yourself.

[Separatist Peoples]

I will be editing this a lot soon.


Nukes, should not be controlled. Damn, hippies get over yourself.

"Don't bother. Abandon this and don't waste your time or ours.

"If you really think nuclear weapons shouldn't be controlled, then you won't mind if somebody targets your nation with a few, right?"

[Kouassi]

No, I have a great economy of uranium. I will just send a few nuclear missiles at there country.

[Soreka]

Unacceptable.

Using Nuclear Weapons on Civilian Targets is unhonorable and a wasteful act.

[Normlpeople]

I will be editing this a lot soon.

Nukes, should not be controlled. Damn, hippies get over yourself.

OOC: You will need to put better arguements than nukes should should not be controlled. You will also need to refrain from legislating in your repeal (Don't confirm anything). Read the rules before redrafting, a read of passed resolutions to get a handle on what should be in a repeal would be a good idea as well.

IC: "Hippy?" Clover said, in between bouts of laughter "Thats something and neither myself, nor the armed kingdom, has ever been accused of before. In any case, I see no reason to repeal this so that you may indiscriminately target civilians. Military targets are the priority of any competent military commander anyway."

[Kaboomlandia]

One look at my nation name and flag should tell you my stance, and I must say that this is a very, very bad idea.

[Separatist Peoples]

No, I have a great economy of uranium. I will just send a few nuclear missiles at there country.

"The C.D.S.P. has a military budget larger than your nation's GDP. What on earth makes you think we, for example, haven't enough warheads to overwhelm your minuscule arsenal? All you're doing here, ambassador, is highlighting your astonishing ignorance of international law and military strategy. Your rantings on nuclear weapons have had the opposite effect you intended, and I am now sure that you have no idea how strategic nuclear policy works at all."