by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:19 pm
by Sabara » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:21 pm
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:24 pm
Arumdaum wrote:
I've heard that while growing up, Asian-Americans often don't like being Asian, and will try to make themselves seem white, while later on, many feel more compelled to embrace at least part of their Asian identity. I think this has been pretty true for me.
by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:27 pm
Sabara wrote:I'm a whitewashed hapa (Chinese (HK)/Caucasian) who grew up (still growing up) in a pretty white town. I've made more Asian friends doing stuff in Seattle, though. And yes, people assume you're full Asian as a hapa. Apparently the small eyes are indicative..
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:32 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Unfortunately, I stopped seeing her around the time one of my friends talked about "beating up a stupid chink girl," or something like that. I'm just hoping it wasn't her...
by Sabara » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:32 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Actually, now that I think about it, there was a brief period where there was a Korean girl who went to my middle school in 7th grade, and we had science together!
Unfortunately, I stopped seeing her around the time one of my friends talked about "beating up a stupid chink girl," or something like that. I'm just hoping it wasn't her...Sabara wrote:I'm a whitewashed hapa (Chinese (HK)/Caucasian) who grew up (still growing up) in a pretty white town. I've made more Asian friends doing stuff in Seattle, though. And yes, people assume you're full Asian as a hapa. Apparently the small eyes are indicative..
How was it when you visited Asia?
I think in general a lot of hapa kids who grow up in the US tend to feel more Asian, as that's how they are treated by most people in the US, especially for guys, I think. I think Asian men haven't been as accepted into mainstream American society as Asian women have, although Asian women have had to deal with fetishization by many people (gross).
by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:34 pm
Gim wrote:Arumdaum wrote:
I've heard that while growing up, Asian-Americans often don't like being Asian, and will try to make themselves seem white, while later on, many feel more compelled to embrace at least part of their Asian identity. I think this has been pretty true for me.
I think that is mostly the case when you are in an environment, where there are not many Asians; in other words, you are just trying to "blend in".
However, if you have a handful of Asian population, I think most Asians, if not born and raised in a non-Asian environment, prefer to join with their fellow ethnic friends.
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:34 pm
Sabara wrote:
Yeah.. Asian guys have to put up with a lot of crap. I remember one of my friends being surprised that there were tall ripped Asians.
by The Chen Dynasty » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:37 pm
by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:39 pm
The Chen Dynasty wrote:I'm Taiwanese-American, and I was born right here in the US. The area I live in Southern California actually has a LOT of Koreans, and they tend to group together with themselves most of the time. Some even thought I looked Korean and tried to speak to me in Korean, although I really don't see it.
I've heard racist remarks concerning Asians now and then, mostly about the Chinese though (most Taiwanese are ethnically Chinese). I really think it's because they don't know anything about the Chinese except for racist stereotypes while on the other hand they're constantly exposed to the Korean kids, Kpop, and anime, which are quite popular here. That's why I never mention my ethnicity, good think nearly nobody knows "Chen" is Chinese, they assume I'm Korean or Vietnamese or something else lol.
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:39 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Gim wrote:
I think that is mostly the case when you are in an environment, where there are not many Asians; in other words, you are just trying to "blend in".
However, if you have a handful of Asian population, I think most Asians, if not born and raised in a non-Asian environment, prefer to join with their fellow ethnic friends.
Yeah, same.
I think while growing up a lot of children struggle to find acceptance, and have to work their ways around being treated differently due to their race on the playground.
I think it is pretty good to have the chance to have friends of a fellow minority.
by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:40 pm
Sabara wrote:Arumdaum wrote:Actually, now that I think about it, there was a brief period where there was a Korean girl who went to my middle school in 7th grade, and we had science together!
Unfortunately, I stopped seeing her around the time one of my friends talked about "beating up a stupid chink girl," or something like that. I'm just hoping it wasn't her...
How was it when you visited Asia?
I think in general a lot of hapa kids who grow up in the US tend to feel more Asian, as that's how they are treated by most people in the US, especially for guys, I think. I think Asian men haven't been as accepted into mainstream American society as Asian women have, although Asian women have had to deal with fetishization by many people (gross).
People thought I was pretty exotic in China, while in Japan and Korea I would get weird looks on the subway occasionally.
Yeah.. Asian guys have to put up with a lot of crap. I remember one of my friends being surprised that there were tall ripped Asians.
by USS Monitor » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:42 pm
Arumdaum wrote:For the end of middle school and the beginning of high school, I was in Korea, and being an Asian-American in Asia is... oh god, haha.
I've heard that while growing up, Asian-Americans often don't like being Asian, and will try to make themselves seem white, while later on, many feel more compelled to embrace at least part of their Asian identity. I think this has been pretty true for me.
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:44 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Sabara wrote:People thought I was pretty exotic in China, while in Japan and Korea I would get weird looks on the subway occasionally.
Yeah.. Asian guys have to put up with a lot of crap. I remember one of my friends being surprised that there were tall ripped Asians.
Ugh, what I think is the worst is when other Asians start buying into racist crap against Asians.
when my cousin talked about "asian guys normally aren't attractive" and asked my sister whether she liked "white guys or black guys" just noooooooooo ewwww stahpppppppp
I think, though, that for a lot of Asians who aren't Chinese, we have to prove to other that we aren't Chinese, since we regularly get asked that, and a lot of people try to show that they aren't Chinese by saying that they don't like China and Chinese people. Well... that's how it was for me at least >__>
by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:48 pm
by The Chen Dynasty » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:48 pm
Arumdaum wrote:626? Glendale/La Crescenta area? Irvine? Somewhere else? lol
KOREANS ONLY HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER HAHAHAHA
especially the recent immigrants omg lol (but this makes a lot of sense)
Arumdaum wrote:when my cousin talked about "asian guys normally aren't attractive" and asked my sister whether she liked "white guys or black guys" just noooooooooo ewwww stahpppppppp
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:52 pm
Arumdaum wrote:
I remember this one teacher who was white randomly came up to me one day and said "nihao" to me back in 6th grade lolzzzz for dayzzzz
by USS Monitor » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:55 pm
The Chen Dynasty wrote:Arumdaum wrote:626? Glendale/La Crescenta area? Irvine? Somewhere else? lol
KOREANS ONLY HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER HAHAHAHA
especially the recent immigrants omg lol (but this makes a lot of sense)
I actually live near Anaheim. And yeah, they sometimes mingle with others but mostly they're just together.Arumdaum wrote:when my cousin talked about "asian guys normally aren't attractive" and asked my sister whether she liked "white guys or black guys" just noooooooooo ewwww stahpppppppp
That sounds just like my sister lol
"Asian guys are so ugly omgggg but dayum them white boys though"
by Gim » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:58 pm
USS Monitor wrote:The Chen Dynasty wrote:I actually live near Anaheim. And yeah, they sometimes mingle with others but mostly they're just together.
That sounds just like my sister lol
"Asian guys are so ugly omgggg but dayum them white boys though"
I don't get why so many people don't like Asian guys.
by Arumdaum » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:59 pm
USS Monitor wrote:Arumdaum wrote:For the end of middle school and the beginning of high school, I was in Korea, and being an Asian-American in Asia is... oh god, haha.
I can imagine... When I lived in Shijiazhuang, I met a Chinese-American guy at a bar and was caught totally off-guard when he started speaking flawless American English and telling me he was from Iowa. I am sure it must have been a daily occurrence for him, being mistaken for Chinese, having people assume he spoke Chinese, and everyone acting surprised when they found out he was American. Probably got tiresome.
If you're white, you don't fit in, but you don't have to deal with everyone being surprised and confused when they find out you're American.I've heard that while growing up, Asian-Americans often don't like being Asian, and will try to make themselves seem white, while later on, many feel more compelled to embrace at least part of their Asian identity. I think this has been pretty true for me.
That seems to be true for a lot of minorities.
by Parhe » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:01 am
Arumdaum wrote:But yeah, Asians can get confused too, lol. I went to a Kinokuniya a few weeks ago, and the cash register started talking to me in Japanese. Unfortunately my Japanese is pretty terrible, and I was caught completely off guard, so I had to respond back in English.
by New confederate ramenia » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:04 am
USS Monitor wrote:The Chen Dynasty wrote:I actually live near Anaheim. And yeah, they sometimes mingle with others but mostly they're just together.
That sounds just like my sister lol
"Asian guys are so ugly omgggg but dayum them white boys though"
I don't get why so many people don't like Asian guys.
by Gim » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:04 am
Parhe wrote:But, to me, I am no more "Asian" than I am "American," if that makes any sense. That said, I, as well as many of my friends, always had a sense of being "outsiders" in school, although Asians made up over twenty percent of the student body.
by Arumdaum » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:08 am
Gim wrote:Parhe wrote:But, to me, I am no more "Asian" than I am "American," if that makes any sense. That said, I, as well as many of my friends, always had a sense of being "outsiders" in school, although Asians made up over twenty percent of the student body.
Yes, there seems to be a distinction between Koreans who have stayed overseas for a while and those who have recently arrived overseas(I think the term for it is, "Fresh Off The Boats". Based on what my Korean friend told me, the former enjoys both the culture of Korea and America, whereas, the latter enjoys just Korean culture, music, celebrities, etc.
by Gim » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:12 am
Arumdaum wrote:
Yeah! FOBs, haha.
Koreans who have been in the US for a while aren't considered FOBs, whereas new arrivals are considered to be FOBs. They tend not to be very familiar with American culture.
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