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Would you rather live in Soviet Russia under Stalin or Nazi Germany under Hitler?

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Flemonia
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Postby Flemonia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:48 am

Would you rather live in Soviet Russia under Stalin or Nazi Germany under Hitler?

Please vote, anf discuss your choice and debate the merits of your decisions.

Personally, I would live in Nazi Germany rather than the USSR, just because the soviets killed more, and I am personally a part of groups the Soviets targeted, but not the Nazis.
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Postby Doperland » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:51 am

Well, Nazi Germany. As bad as they were, from what I understand they weren't that bad to their people (except for, you know. Persecuting anyone who they didn't like.) And the fact that i'm close enough to the Aryan ideal, I think it wouldn't be too bad. Better than being cannon fodder for the Soviets, i'm sure.
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Postby Mefpan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:57 am

...Nazi Germany. If only because odds are that I'll have a better education than the average Soviet citizen of the time period and can probably still bail the fuck out to America or Canada or perhaps even just Switzerland before war breaks out.

If the assumption goes that we must stay in the chosen country until the war's done and over with, however, I'd have to pick the Soviet Union provided I get to be in Vladivostok.

Doperland wrote:Well, Nazi Germany. As bad as they were, from what I understand they weren't that bad to their people (except for, you know. Persecuting anyone who they didn't like.) And the fact that i'm close enough to the Aryan ideal, I think it wouldn't be too bad. Better than being cannon fodder for the Soviets, i'm sure.

Given the disastrous outcome of Operation Barbarossa, I'm not sure if cannon fodder for the Nazis is a better choice.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:58 am

Soviets, obviously. The Third Reich was an abomination and a militarized police state even worse than Stalin's.
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Postby Hollorous » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:10 am

I'd choose to be born in the USSR...around 1950 or so. That way, I can grow up under Kruschev instead ;)

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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:14 am

USSR. Nazi Germany was far fucking worse.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:15 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Soviets, obviously. The Third Reich was an abomination and a militarized police state even worse than Stalin's.

Seconded.
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Postby Lautrec- » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:20 am

I'd like my oppression in red, thank you very much
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Postby Herskerstad » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:25 am

Nazi Germany.

That has a great deal to do with my racial background as I'd at least make first degree citizenship if not full blown Aryian and the fact that Germany was more modernized in general, whereas perpetual misery would be ensured regardless of class in Stalin's USSR.

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:26 am

Soviet Union. I don't want to be gassed, thank you very much.
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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:30 am

USSR - I was born there (Two years after Brezhnev became president)
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Postby Kubra » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:36 am

HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:USSR - I was born there (Two years after Brezhnev became president)
you'd die of boredom tho
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:37 am

Kubra wrote:
HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:USSR - I was born there (Two years after Brezhnev became president)
you'd die of boredom tho

The USSR did in fact have things like movies and plays.

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Postby Jordkloden » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:40 am

USSR. I'd probably get killed by the gestapo otherwise.
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Postby Kubra » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:42 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Kubra wrote: you'd die of boredom tho

The USSR did in fact have things like movies and plays.
yeah, boring ones
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Postby Zorbae » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:43 am

Personally, I don't fit in to one of the many reasons which the Nazis would kill me for. The Soviets on the other hand, I'm sure Stalin would want to kill me.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:45 am

Jordkloden wrote:USSR. I'd probably get killed by the gestapo otherwise.

Same.
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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:46 am

Kubra wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:The USSR did in fact have things like movies and plays.
yeah, boring ones

Actually, they are (in my opinion) much better than most modern films.
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Postby Prumia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:47 am

Flemonia wrote:Would you rather live in Soviet Russia under Stalin or Nazi Germany under Hitler?


Or, put another way, which foot do I want to shoot myself in: the left or right?

I suppose I would shoot the right foot; Hitler's Germany. Not only would it not last as long, it actually was not that bad a place to live prior to the war except for a minority of people. I am white, male, and not mentally ill so I should survive long enough to reach the war. I am of age and am physically able to fight so I would find myself in the military. The only real issue would be surviving the war.

Conversely, I would either starve to death under communism in Russia or likely die from those three in four odds of mortality fighting in World War II. Even if I somehow managed to live through the war, Russia is still a miserable communist police state.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:47 am

Kubra wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:The USSR did in fact have things like movies and plays.
yeah, boring ones

Er, no. The USSR actually produced many good films.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:47 am

HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:Actually, they are (in my opinion) much better than most modern films.

I'd say we mostly remember the classics of Soviet cinema, which, mind you, are classics and absolutely amazing, rather than the bulk of the output of Soviet artists.
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Postby Abvronovistakaderovistan » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:49 am

USSR. I like socialist and communist ideas, and I would be killed in Nazi Germany for that

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Postby HYDRA-Russian Empire » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:49 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
HYDRA-Russian Empire wrote:Actually, they are (in my opinion) much better than most modern films.

I'd say we mostly remember the classics of Soviet cinema, which, mind you, are classics and absolutely amazing, rather than the bulk of the output of Soviet artists.

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Postby Ayamar » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:50 am

Nazi Germany, not because I condone what they did but because I'm a Catholic, Straight Aryan, so I would be in a privileged position. And I could blitzkrieg :^)
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Postby Dundee Derry » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:50 am

Could I split the difference, and say East Germany?
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