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[DRAFT] Unhunderd-Percent Employment

Postby British Accia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:05 am

Unhundered-Percent Employment

Recently, several of your advisers have noticed @@NAME@@'s near-astronomical employment levels. However, opinions are divided as to how to approach this achievement, and if it even is an achievement.

Valid only for nations with employment levels of over 98%

[option]"This is brilliant!" Say's @@RANDOMNAME@@, your minister of employment, "Employment rates are 99.97%, and that's only because we put the people in job centers out of work. We must use this to our advantage! Imagine how the electorate will flock to keep you in power, after all, you, are the only one who can keep it this way, @@LEADER@@."
[effect]people rush to the ballot boxes after discovering how much they rely on the government for their job.
[stats]Political freedoms drops slightly, corruption rises, freedom from corruption falls.

[option]"Yes yes yes, this is all really good." Nods your HR manager, "But did you know if we include children and pensioners this drops to just 65%? What a load of untapped labour! I say we abolish those silly laws preventing child labour, and treat retirement like unemployment, and cancel all benefits as well while we're at it." He begins writing notes next to a sheet of demographics, "Only then can we truly have 100% employment."
[effect]mothers bring children as young as 3 into work as filers and personal assistants.
[stats]Death by work increases, life expectancy drops, economy increases unemployment drops, taxes drop, funding on welfare drops, finding on administration increases

[option validity]Valid only for nations with >50% private industry
[option]"That may be a great figure to look at, but over half of those people work for the private sector, which isn't employment at all, but slavery!" Cries radical left-winger, and leader of the @@DEMONYM@@ Communist Party, @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, "Those corporations treat their 'workers' like their own, personal, minions. Anyone who isn't employed by the government must be rescued!"
[effect]Anyone who accepts money from another citizen is immediately rushed to hospital for 'work related injuries'.
[stats]Private sector all but vanishes, corruption increases, increase in taxes, increase in healthcare spending, economy massively decreases,

[option validity]Valid only for nations with >50% state economy
[option]"Hmmmph" Grumbles @@NAME@@'s wealthiest CEO, "Employment is a subjective term in the government sector, I mean, half of these 'employees' have jobs listed as 'Drawer Cleaner', 'Pen Top Putter Backer Onner' and 'Plug Ginie'." He shakes his head in disbelief, "I think the private sector should handle this from now on..."
[effect]thousands of 'vending machine operators' are put out of work.
[stats]corruption drops, economy drops, state industry all but vanishes, government size decreases

A quick scan of the Issues Spoiler page revealed nothing about 100% employment, so I thought I'd write one. I'll write up the last few options eventually, but any thoughts?
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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:08 am

I think there's only issue validity. Option validity is not really applicable from what I've seen.
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Postby Luna Amore » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:08 am

Gigaverse wrote:I think there's only issue validity. Option validity is not really applicable from what I've seen.

We can do option validity.

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Postby British Accia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:20 am

Luna Amore wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:I think there's only issue validity. Option validity is not really applicable from what I've seen.

We can do option validity.

Good, I thought I'd seen it used elsewhere. Glad to know it actually exists. :p
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British Accia wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:We can do option validity.

Good, I thought I'd seen it used elsewhere. Glad to know it actually exists. :p

Wait... ... it exists?! :eek:
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:09 pm

What determines above 98% employment rates? I don't think NS treats it by this, unless if there's some calculator.
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Outer Sparta wrote:What determines above 98% employment rates? I don't think NS treats it by this, unless if there's some calculator.

IIRC correctly it's shown in NSTracker, which means that stat exists, we just don't see it, like influence and economic freedom. That is, of course, if my understanding of these things is correct.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:51 am

British Accia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:What determines above 98% employment rates? I don't think NS treats it by this, unless if there's some calculator.

IIRC correctly it's shown in NSTracker, which means that stat exists, we just don't see it, like influence and economic freedom. That is, of course, if my understanding of these things is correct.

Yeah, there are calculators for this. So your correct. Carry on.
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Postby Rivercastle » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:42 am

There are? The employment stats in NationStates can go into the hundreds, so I thought there wasn't any percentage-based employment statistic.
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:55 am

Rivercastle wrote:There are? The employment stats in NationStates can go into the hundreds, so I thought there wasn't any percentage-based employment statistic.

Correct; NationStates itself does not currently have a percentage-based employment statistic.

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Postby British Accia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:52 am

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Rivercastle wrote:There are? The employment stats in NationStates can go into the hundreds, so I thought there wasn't any percentage-based employment statistic.

Correct; NationStates itself does not currently have a percentage-based employment statistic.

Ah, so, if I leave my validity as a percent, will the editors be able to magic it into something that gets the job done?
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:31 am

Currently, not - which makes referencing specific percentages in the text tricky. That said, we have always told authors that if an issue is good enough, we'll make it work - and we have previously discussed having a meaningful employment rate stat, so maybe we'll get around to actually doing that.

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Postby British Accia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:35 am

Sedgistan wrote:Currently, not - which makes referencing specific percentages in the text tricky. That said, we have always told authors that if an issue is good enough, we'll make it work - and we have previously discussed having a meaningful employment rate stat, so maybe we'll get around to actually doing that.

Okay, well, I'll leave it as is, and change it if anything comes to mind.
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Made a 50%+ state industry option, not too happy with it though, any suggestions?
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Postby Annihilators of Chan Island » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:07 pm

Could you please write out these two options you are dangling in front of us but arn't writing?

British Accia wrote:[option] Government back out of it

[option] Remove pressure to work




Would be nice to actually look at it once every suggested option is actually fully on the table. Personally, I'd eliminate these as you already have 4 options, but yeah. 'Nuff said.
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British Accia wrote:Made a 50%+ state industry option, not too happy with it though, any suggestions?


I'd say tie it to the "economy" stat.
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Annihilators of Chan Island wrote:Could you please write out these two options you are dangling in front of us but arn't writing?

British Accia wrote:[option] Government back out of it

[option] Remove pressure to work




Would be nice to actually look at it once every suggested option is actually fully on the table. Personally, I'd eliminate these as you already have 4 options, but yeah. 'Nuff said.


Probably a good suggestion, axed them.

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British Accia wrote:Made a 50%+ state industry option, not too happy with it though, any suggestions?


I'd say tie it to the "economy" stat.


Right, yes, that's what I meant.
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