Thinner Beauty

[Days of Rodeo]

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/national/t ... ontroversy

So, essentially, this website/subreddit has been made to show how much more (subjectively, of course) beautiful people could like if they lost weight. They do this by photoshopping heavier women to show what they would look like as slim women. This has caused quite a bit of controversy in the media, with some news outlets calling it disgusting and fatshaming women for their bodies. Members/photoshoppers of the movement claim it is a motivational tool to get people to exercise, and use the fact that some of the people on thinner beauty actually submit their own photos to be photoshopped as evidence of this.


So, thoughts, NSG? Is this okay? Fatshaming? Motivational?

Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with the campaign itself, as long as the people being photoshopped are either submitting their own photos to the site or otherwise consenting to being photoshopped, or are public figures, like plus-size model Tess Holliday.


Edit: As a note, some of the pictures on the website may be semi-NSFW, so go there at your own peril.

[Cannot think of a name]

I'll never really understand getting that fucking obsessed about other people's bodies. It's just plain weird, man.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Operation Harpoon/Thinner Beauty started in response to Fat Acceptance/Health at Every Size and is basically just the reverse of those shitty inline articles where they photoshop models and game characters to look fatter. Supposedly, to show that fat can be beautiful and healthy.

I normally wouldn't care either way, but Thinner Beauty is generating a lot of topkeks from the Tumblr/Buzzfeed/Huffpo/etc crowd's buttrage. So as a result I approve.

[USS Monitor]

If people want to have pictures of themselves photoshopped as a motivational thing, more power to them.

If they're just grabbing pictures without permission, it's kind of sticking their nose where they weren't invited and I don't see how that's motivational.

I thought this thread was going to be about a pro-anorexia group. This is much less fucked up than those.

[Hyfling]

If it's pissing off HAES, then more power to 'em.

[Divitaen]

Its a very very strange culture, and I think is the result of centuries of misogyny, sexual objectification, and media manipulation and corporate propaganda to convince people that they need to spend lots and lots of money making themselves look model-thin, especially for women. Its distasteful and highly discouraging.

[Deuxtete]

Funny how they take enough weight off most of the women to make them disgustingly skinny...except for leaving the breasts almost entirely unaltered...save for some reshaping.

Stay classy neckbeards.

[AiliailiA]

I don't like that. But there being so many things on the internet which I DON'T LIKE, my response is to shrug and just not look at their site.

[Oneracon]

For the record, this movement is not one of hate, like some may claim. It is not hateful to encourage people to be happy, healthy and beautiful. In fact, we’d go as far as to say the opposite: It is hateful to want people to be unhealthy, and to try and make people think that such a thing is okay.

Oh man, my sides.

[Jamzmania]

Funny how they take enough weight off most of the women to make them disgustingly skinny...except for leaving the breasts almost entirely unaltered...save for some reshaping.

Stay classy neckbeards.

I didn't see a whole lot of that. Most of them looked normal enough.

[Ziegenhein]

Operation Harpoon/Thinner Beauty started in response to Fat Acceptance/Health at Every Size and is basically just the reverse of those shitty inline articles where they photoshop models and game characters to look fatter. Supposedly, to show that fat can be beautiful and healthy.

I normally wouldn't care either way, but Thinner Beauty is generating a lot of topkeks from the Tumblr/Buzzfeed/Huffpo/etc crowd's buttrage. So as a result I approve.

Basically this.

Topkek m8 topkek

[Deuxtete]

Funny how they take enough weight off most of the women to make them disgustingly skinny...except for leaving the breasts almost entirely unaltered...save for some reshaping.

Stay classy neckbeards.

I didn't see a whole lot of that. Most of them looked normal enough.

Stay classy.
Because a size 4 with 38 DD is "normal".

[Ascended Rome]

I didn't see a whole lot of that. Most of them looked normal enough.

Stay classy.
Because a size 4 with 38 DD is "normal".

Have you considered that maybe it's because it's really difficult to reshape objects like breasts without having them look distorted?

[Ascended Rome]

Being fat is unhealthy. Put it any way you want, but fat people live shorter lives, consume more resources, and put a strain on the medical system. There's nothing wrong with encouraging people to lose weight, and the fact that anyone thinks telling people to be healthier is bad is detestable.

I'm don't agree with Michelle Obama on a lot of things, but I think that trying to press healthy eating and exercise into the minds of the public was a great project, and I'm sad that it apparently hasn't worked nearly as well as I'd hoped.

[Deuxtete]

Stay classy.
Because a size 4 with 38 DD is "normal".

Have you considered that maybe it's because it's really difficult to reshape objects like breasts without having them look distorted?

They did fine with the FACES

[Nazi Flower Power]

Funny how they take enough weight off most of the women to make them disgustingly skinny...except for leaving the breasts almost entirely unaltered...save for some reshaping.

Stay classy neckbeards.

Yeah, I noticed they were leaving the boobs unrealistically large. If you lose weight, you also lose some of the fat in your boobs.

[Oneracon]

Being fat is unhealthy. Put it any way you want, but fat people live shorter lives, consume more resources, and put a strain on the medical system. There's nothing wrong with encouraging people to lose weight, and the fact that anyone thinks telling people to be healthier is bad is detestable.

I'm don't agree with Michelle Obama on a lot of things, but I think that trying to press healthy eating and exercise into the minds of the public was a great project, and I'm sad that it apparently hasn't worked nearly as well as I'd hoped.

Not necessarily, it's more complex than that. Obesity is unhealthy in many cases, for sure, but simply being "fat" (which is a pretty vaguely defined word) is not necessarily unhealthy.

[Ascended Rome]

Being fat is unhealthy. Put it any way you want, but fat people live shorter lives, consume more resources, and put a strain on the medical system. There's nothing wrong with encouraging people to lose weight, and the fact that anyone thinks telling people to be healthier is bad is detestable.

I'm don't agree with Michelle Obama on a lot of things, but I think that trying to press healthy eating and exercise into the minds of the public was a great project, and I'm sad that it apparently hasn't worked nearly as well as I'd hoped.

Not necessarily, it's more complex than that. Obesity is unhealthy in many cases, for sure, but simply being "fat" (which is a pretty vaguely defined word) is not necessarily unhealthy.

Let me put it this way: If you can't go for a decent-length jog, or go up three flights of stairs, without breaking a sweat or huffing-and-puffing, then you are unhealthy. Yes, it's entirely possible to be obese without dropping dead, but that doesn't mean that you are healthy.

[Oneracon]

Not necessarily, it's more complex than that. Obesity is unhealthy in many cases, for sure, but simply being "fat" (which is a pretty vaguely defined word) is not necessarily unhealthy.

Let me put it this way: If you can't go for a decent-length jog, or go up three flights of stairs, without breaking a sweat or huffing-and-puffing, then you are unhealthy. Yes, it's entirely possible to be obese without dropping dead, but that doesn't mean that you are healthy.

Actually, it's perfectly possible to have a normal/underweight BMI but have excess body fat (which puts you at the same health risks as someone who is obese) or have an overweight BMI but have healthy levels of body fat (which does not carry the same health risks).

Again... it's not as simple as you might think.

[Ascended Rome]

Let me put it this way: If you can't go for a decent-length jog, or go up three flights of stairs, without breaking a sweat or huffing-and-puffing, then you are unhealthy. Yes, it's entirely possible to be obese without dropping dead, but that doesn't mean that you are healthy.

Actually, it's perfectly possible to have a normal/underweight BMI but have excess body fat (which puts you at the same health risks as someone who is obese) or have an overweight BMI but have healthy levels of body fat (which does not carry the same health risks).

Again... it's not as simple as you might think.

Please, tell me about all the underweight people who contracted Type II Diabetes in their older years.

[The Alexanderians]

If people want to have pictures of themselves photoshopped as a motivational thing, more power to them.

If they're just grabbing pictures without permission, it's kind of sticking their nose where they weren't invited and I don't see how that's motivational.

I thought this thread was going to be about a pro-anorexia group. This is much less fucked up than those.

Agreed, more power to them.

[Giovenith]

They know being heavy doesn't necessarily mean being unhealthy, right? You can practice all the same health habits as any other skinny person and still be chubby, they know that, right? They know there's more to someone's shape than just how many burgers they eat, or how many miles they run, riiiiight?

Oh no, something tells me they didn't.

[Ascended Rome]

They know being heavy doesn't necessarily mean being unhealthy, right? You can practice all the same health habits as any other skinny person and still be chubby, they know that, right? They know there's more to someone's shape than just how many burgers they eat, or how many miles they run, riiiiight?

Oh no, something tells me they didn't.

Except there isn't, unless you're going to tell me that the body secretly absorbs matter through its pores.

If you want to lose weight, you have to lose the calories stored in the form of body mass faster than you consume additional calories stored in the form of food. If you're not losing weight, it's because some part of that equation isn't being fulfilled.

Matter can not miraculously created by virtue of being alive. If you are putting on weight, it's because you're either eating too much or exercising too little. There is no third option. Even people who have disorders can overcome the weight-gain caused by those disorders through adjustment of their habits.

[Nazi Flower Power]

They know being heavy doesn't necessarily mean being unhealthy, right? You can practice all the same health habits as any other skinny person and still be chubby, they know that, right? They know there's more to someone's shape than just how many burgers they eat, or how many miles they run, riiiiight?

Oh no, something tells me they didn't.

Except there isn't, unless you're going to tell me that the body secretly absorbs matter through its pores.

If you want to lose weight, you have to lose the calories stored in the form of body mass faster than you consume additional calories stored in the form of food. If you're not losing weight, it's because some part of that equation isn't being fulfilled.

Matter can not miraculously created by virtue of being alive. If you are putting on weight, it's because you're either eating too much or exercising too little. There is no third option. Even people who have disorders can overcome the weight-gain caused by those disorders through adjustment of their habits.

Water weight has nothing to do with calories, and there are conditions that can cause people to retain water.

[Ascended Rome]

Except there isn't, unless you're going to tell me that the body secretly absorbs matter through its pores.

If you want to lose weight, you have to lose the calories stored in the form of body mass faster than you consume additional calories stored in the form of food. If you're not losing weight, it's because some part of that equation isn't being fulfilled.

Matter can not miraculously created by virtue of being alive. If you are putting on weight, it's because you're either eating too much or exercising too little. There is no third option. Even people who have disorders can overcome the weight-gain caused by those disorders through adjustment of their habits.

Water weight has nothing to do with calories, and there are conditions that can cause people to retain water.

While this is true, these conditions are rather rare, and still don't explain extreme obesity. Your average human being does not drink about 400 pounds of water in a 5 years, let alone one. Hell, some might not even drink it in their entire life.