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Should racism be treated as a mental disorder?

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Should racism be treated as a psychological disorder?

Postby Feminitopia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:49 pm

According to DSM-IV, a mental disorder is a psychological syndrome or pattern, which occurs in an individual, and causes distress via a painful symptom or disability, or increases the risk of death, pain, or disability.

A personality disorder is a type of mental disorder in which you have a rigid and unhealthy pattern of thinking, functioning and behaving. A person with a personality disorder has trouble perceiving and relating to situations and to people. This causes significant problems and limitations in relationships, social encounters, work and school. (source: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond ... n-20030111)

Under this definition, should racism be classified and treated as a type of personality disorder? Consider that racism interferes with a persons ability to have healthy interactions with people of other races, which is particularly harmful in a multi-ethnic society. People who harbor racist beliefs have a propensity for violence and other anti-social behaviors, and they are much more likely to hold paranoid belief systems or buy into dangerous conspiracy theories (such as a Jewish elite controlling the banks).

Would these individuals benefit from therapy? Would society benefit if racists were treated in a medical environment?

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Postby Domenic and friends » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:50 pm

No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.

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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:54 pm

No, it isn't the result of a mental unbalance or similar things. It is just a learned thing it is no more a disorder than holding other opinions.
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Postby Scyobayrynn » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:57 pm

Domenic and friends wrote:No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.

Indeed it can be unlearned on a societal level, bravo.
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Postby Feminitopia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:58 pm

Domenic and friends wrote:No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.


But many psychological disorders are the result of environmental influences as well, particularly in early childhood. These preferences and prejudices are cemented as they age into adulthood, and I think many people would benefit from therapy as a way to remove them. I think if racism were officially classified a psychological disorder (which many professionals already consider it to be), the perception of it being pathological would help marginalize racist thought.

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:01 pm

Feminitopia wrote:
Domenic and friends wrote:No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.


But many psychological disorders are the result of environmental influences as well, particularly in early childhood. These preferences and prejudices are cemented as they age into adulthood, and I think many people would benefit from therapy as a way to remove them. I think if racism were officially classified a psychological disorder (which many professionals already consider it to be), the perception of it being pathological would help marginalize racist thought.

And potentially make those suffering from mental disorders even more stigmatized since it'd be associated with such things. It's bad enough they're associated with spree killers and other things.

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Postby Scyobayrynn » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:01 pm

Feminitopia wrote:
Domenic and friends wrote:No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.


But many psychological disorders are the result of environmental influences as well, particularly in early childhood. These preferences and prejudices are cemented as they age into adulthood, and I think many people would benefit from therapy as a way to remove them. I think if racism were officially classified a psychological disorder (which many professionals already consider it to be), the perception of it being pathological would help marginalize racist thought.

If you retain it as a mental illness then you retain its structure in society's lexicon.
This retains the idea, and thus perpetuates it.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:01 pm

Feminitopia wrote:
Domenic and friends wrote:No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.


But many psychological disorders are the result of environmental influences as well, particularly in early childhood. These preferences and prejudices are cemented as they age into adulthood, and I think many people would benefit from therapy as a way to remove them. I think if racism were officially classified a psychological disorder (which many professionals already consider it to be), the perception of it being pathological would help marginalize racist thought.

You realize that we don't classify things as mental disorders based on political expediency, yes? Remember, there was a time in which being a "difficult" woman as also characterized as a mental disorder that was often "cured" with a lobotomy. So, no, I don't think it is, in case you can't tell.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:02 pm

Feminitopia wrote:
Domenic and friends wrote:No Racism is learned habit its not something you are born with and someone who truly doesn't believe in propaganda anymore can unlearn it.


But many psychological disorders are the result of environmental influences as well, particularly in early childhood. These preferences and prejudices are cemented as they age into adulthood, and I think many people would benefit from therapy as a way to remove them. I think if racism were officially classified a psychological disorder (which many professionals already consider it to be), the perception of it being pathological would help marginalize racist thought.

Then that means more then 75% + people on this planet would be classified as having a psychological disorder. Rasicm is learned so it can be unlearned it's not a disorder
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Postby A Shadow Out Of Time » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:03 pm

If and only if it falls under all of the 4 D's of Psychopathology: Distress to the individual, Deviance, Danger to self or others, and Dysfunction in society. Psychiatry is not and should not be in the business of pathologising mere ideas and thoughts - what is this, the new version of Sluggish Schizophrenia, where Soviet psychiatrists categorised a distrust in Soviet Communism as a psychiatric disorder?

But yeah, if a person believes black people are about to take over the US government and purge whites in a holocaust, and it's causing them distress, causing them to dysfunction, and they're becoming a threat to others or themselves... might be a good idea to let them get checked out for personality disorders or psychosis, and see if a swift course of olanzapine helps them cope. If a diagnosis is to be made, Paranoid Schizophrenia or Paranoid/Antisocial Personality Disorder. Not a new one that specifically pathologises racism.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:04 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Feminitopia wrote:
But many psychological disorders are the result of environmental influences as well, particularly in early childhood. These preferences and prejudices are cemented as they age into adulthood, and I think many people would benefit from therapy as a way to remove them. I think if racism were officially classified a psychological disorder (which many professionals already consider it to be), the perception of it being pathological would help marginalize racist thought.

Then that means more then 75% + people on this planet would be classified as having a psychological disorder. Rasicm is learned so it can be unlearned it's not a disorder

Make that 100%. Humans are all batshit.
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Postby Julian Res Publica » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:04 pm

Racism correlates with stupidity and the lack of education, so no, it's simply ignorance.
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Postby New Grestin » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:28 pm

Racism is a by-product of ignorance, not mental illness.
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Postby Jacobania » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:34 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Then that means more then 75% + people on this planet would be classified as having a psychological disorder. Rasicm is learned so it can be unlearned it's not a disorder

Make that 100%. Humans are all batshit.


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Postby Scyobayrynn » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:35 pm

Julian Res Publica wrote:Racism correlates with stupidity and the lack of education, so no, it's simply ignorance.

If only that were true.
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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:36 pm

Mental illnesses tend to be defined in terms of both perceived harm and abnormality. Racism is instituonalized in most societies, and is not abnormal, as unfortunate as that is.
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Postby Palakistan » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:36 pm

Rhyfelnydd wrote:No, it isn't the result of a mental unbalance or similar things. It is just a learned thing it is no more a disorder than holding other opinions.

That's what I think.
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Postby Hoskhsueu » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:37 pm

No. Society already treats more things as mental disorders than it needs to. I'm not saying there are no mental disorders, but calling everything that can be wrong with someone that has to do with their mind a mental disorder removes people's agency. I think removing people's sense of agency, as well as what people said earlier about stigmatizing the mentally ill by grouping them with racists, would cause more harm than marginalizing racism (if that would even happen) would help. Is the inverse of racism being a mental disorder that not being racist is just a form of being lucky in the genetic lottery and thus there's no moral component to being or not being racist?

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:37 pm

Jacobania wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Make that 100%. Humans are all batshit.


Including The Batman, himself.

Especially the Batman.
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Postby The United Countries of America » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:49 pm

No. Racism is a learned thing, not an inherited thing.
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Jacobania wrote:
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Postby Sun Wukong » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:52 pm

Group selection is an entirely normal psychological process in humans. It's not always healthy, but to call it insane would be like calling anger or jealousy insane.
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Postby Ayothaya » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:53 pm

Ignorance, hatred, prejudice and ideology - components of racism - are all mostly negative, but I don't think they are illnesses. If we're going down that path then we'd have to classify the human condition itself as a kind of psychological disorder.
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Postby Anglo-Saxon North America » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:56 pm

Racism and being-an-ass to homosexuals can both fugk right off, but seriously? Delisting homosexuality and adding on racism as mental disorder? That's a bit silly.
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