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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:42 pm

Now after butchering that iconic quote in an attempt for humor, lets get down to business.

Ever since the rise of man, people have been consuming all sorts of smutty materials to sate their needs. One such being pornography. With the rise of the internet, easy to take photos, and recording devices, the production and consumption of porn has risen to astronomical levels; So big you can see it from space.

Now, there are many opinions on porn and its production. Some believe it should be regulated under guidelines by the government. Some wish to ban it all, red tape included (the non-kinky kind). Some wish it was fee from regulation so you can produce !@%@!! and %#&*%&^ and even ##%^#%#(@!!!

Regardless, this is the thread to debate and argue your opinions on pornography. Get your gladiator gear on, because this Colosseum is gonna get bloody! Also, in Roman fashion, there will be an orgy afterwards and everyone is invited.

My opinion? Well, I'm of the radical belief that porn should be legal, but also have strict guidelines imposed by the government so that porn is produced safely and consensually. I know, I know, too progressive. I'm a pioneer for my era.
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Postby Meryuma » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:44 pm

Porn is a fact of human existence; policy should be based around enthusiastic consent and respect for workers rather than "moral decency".
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Postby Stormwrath » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:45 pm

Eh, it's fine as long as some of us don't jerk ourselves dry too much from it.

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Postby Thunder God » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:47 pm

It's mostly a scapegoat that people who want to control the population try to ban every now and again.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:47 pm

Porn is A+, so long as conditions are improved. We need better treatment of both men and women in the field, but so long as we work towards that, I'm gonna be turning my vibrator up to high.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:47 pm

The Carlisle wrote:Now after butchering that iconic quote in an attempt for humor, lets get down to business.

Ever since the rise of man, people have been consuming all sorts of smutty materials to sate their needs. One such being pornography. With the rise of the internet, easy to take photos, and recording devices, the production and consumption of porn has risen to astronomical levels; So big you can see it from space.

Now, there are many opinions on porn and its production. Some believe it should be regulated under guidelines by the government. Some wish to ban it all, red tape included (the non-kinky kind). Some wish it was fee from regulation so you can produce !@%@!! and %#&*%&^ and even ##%^#%#(@!!!

Regardless, this is the thread to debate and argue your opinions on pornography. Get your gladiator gear on, because this Colosseum is gonna get bloody! Also, in Roman fashion, there will be an orgy afterwards and everyone is invited.

My opinion? Well, I'm of the radical belief that porn should be legal, but also have strict guidelines imposed by the government so that porn is produced safely and consensually. I know, I know, too progressive. I'm a pioneer for my era.

Generally those who want increased government control are thrown in with the regressives.

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:52 pm

Any porn that doesn't involve non-consenting individuals should absolutely be legal. As to the issue of its production and management, porn definitely is primarily produced by and for cisgender heterosexual men, and it is not uncommon for women to end up being treated as sex objects as a result. Now I will be clear, sexual objectification is not wrong in fantasies or when people consent to act out objectification as a form of role play, though there definitely is some harm to the default prescription of women as sex objects. Of course, this isn't just a problem of porn, but is an issue of the depiction of women in media in general, and I would argue that the objectification that happens in porn is far more acceptable than what happens in mass media in general. Still, while I don't think legislation is really the answer for the issue, I greatly support the movements within the porn industry and by independent porn produces to create porn by and for women, trans people, queer people, people of color, overweight people, and disabled people. Alternative porn is great for promoting better treatment of those in it, and in my personal opinion is miles ahead when it comes to actual quality.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:54 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:Now after butchering that iconic quote in an attempt for humor, lets get down to business.

Ever since the rise of man, people have been consuming all sorts of smutty materials to sate their needs. One such being pornography. With the rise of the internet, easy to take photos, and recording devices, the production and consumption of porn has risen to astronomical levels; So big you can see it from space.

Now, there are many opinions on porn and its production. Some believe it should be regulated under guidelines by the government. Some wish to ban it all, red tape included (the non-kinky kind). Some wish it was fee from regulation so you can produce !@%@!! and %#&*%&^ and even ##%^#%#(@!!!

Regardless, this is the thread to debate and argue your opinions on pornography. Get your gladiator gear on, because this Colosseum is gonna get bloody! Also, in Roman fashion, there will be an orgy afterwards and everyone is invited.

My opinion? Well, I'm of the radical belief that porn should be legal, but also have strict guidelines imposed by the government so that porn is produced safely and consensually. I know, I know, too progressive. I'm a pioneer for my era.

Generally those who want increased government control are thrown in with the regressives.

Of course. Depends on what controls.
Over 18? Good
Health checks? Good
Ban on all non-consensual porn? Good
Strict policing of all illegal porn? Good

This can be expanded upon, but that is just general stuff.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:55 pm

Banning porn is dumber than banning toast, as I've said earlier. More Americans watch porn than Americans who eat toast.

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Postby Kalmarium » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:56 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:Generally those who want increased government control are thrown in with the regressives.

Of course. Depends on what controls.
Over 18? Good
Health checks? Good
Ban on all non-consensual porn? Good
Strict policing of all illegal porn? Good

This can be expanded upon, but that is just general stuff.

Yeah there certainly needs to be restrictions on certain kinds of pornography. Anything involving kids for example should be illegal, I don't care how depraved your fetishes are it's just wrong. Likewise "rape porn."
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:57 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:More Americans watch porn than Americans who eat toast.
Erm, no. While banning porn is certainly foolish, viewing it is not more common than eating toast.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:57 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:More Americans watch porn than Americans who eat toast.
Erm, no. While banning porn is certainly foolish, viewing it is not more common than eating toast.


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Postby Stormwrath » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:58 pm

The Carlisle wrote:Of course. Depends on what controls.
Over 18? Good
Health checks? Good
Ban on all non-consensual porn? Good
Strict policing of all illegal porn? Good

This can be expanded upon, but that is just general stuff.

Indeed, there are some porn that just crosses the line, such as child porn.

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:59 pm

Kalmarium wrote:
The Carlisle wrote:Of course. Depends on what controls.
Over 18? Good
Health checks? Good
Ban on all non-consensual porn? Good
Strict policing of all illegal porn? Good

This can be expanded upon, but that is just general stuff.

Yeah there certainly needs to be restrictions on certain kinds of pornography. Anything involving kids for example should be illegal, I don't care how depraved your fetishes are it's just wrong. Likewise "rape porn."
Actual child pornography and porn depicting actual rape should of course be illegal, but fictional depictions of children (lolicon, shotacon, etc.) and porn showing people acting out rape fantasies should absolutely be legal.
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Postby Vetega » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:00 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:More Americans watch porn than Americans who eat toast.
Erm, no. While banning porn is certainly foolish, viewing it is not more common than eating toast.

Agreed. Porn isn't THAT popular.
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Postby Togeria » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:00 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Kalmarium wrote:Yeah there certainly needs to be restrictions on certain kinds of pornography. Anything involving kids for example should be illegal, I don't care how depraved your fetishes are it's just wrong. Likewise "rape porn."
Actual child pornography and porn depicting actual rape should of course be illegal, but fictional depictions of children (lolicon, shotacon, etc.) and porn showing people acting out rape fantasies should absolutely be legal.

I can agree with this.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:00 pm

It's quite dangerous. Untold millions have broken arms jerking themselves off. We must combat it before everyone is left handed.

Edit: but seriously? Nah, getting rid of it would piss SO MANY people off.
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:01 pm

Porn is fantastic.

It's been around forever anyway and people have always tried to ban it for one bullshit reason or another, but spoiler alert:

Sometimes, people want to pleasure themselves to images of other, more attractive people.

This has literally been happening since the dawn of human existence and will continue to happen until our extinction, regardless of what anyone tries to do to the contrary.
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Postby Kalmarium » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:02 pm

The Cobalt Sky wrote:It's quite dangerous. Untold millions have broken arms jerking themselves off. We must combat it before everyone is left handed.

Edit: but seriously? Nah, getting rid of it would piss SO MANY people off.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:03 pm

New Grestin wrote:Porn is fantastic.

It's been around forever anyway and people have always tried to ban it for one bullshit reason or another, but spoiler alert:

Sometimes, people want to pleasure themselves to images of other, more attractive people.

This has literally been happening since the dawn of human existence and will continue to happen until our extinction, regardless of what anyone tries to do to the contrary.


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Postby Godular » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:03 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:More Americans watch porn than Americans who eat toast.
Erm, no. While banning porn is certainly foolish, viewing it is not more common than eating toast.


What if one eats toast while watching porn?

And do we count each slice separately?
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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:04 pm

As a religious guy, I personally find porn distasteful. Now that I've made that clear, I don't see that there's any reason to prohibit it. Obviously child porn and "revenge porn" should be illegal, as well as anything depicting rape, even if it's staged. Beyond that, it really isn't any religion's job to be the world's moral police, so I see no reason why porn, within certain boundaries, shouldn't be perfectly legal.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:04 pm

Kalmarium wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:It's quite dangerous. Untold millions have broken arms jerking themselves off. We must combat it before everyone is left handed.

Edit: but seriously? Nah, getting rid of it would piss SO MANY people off.

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Postby New Grestin » Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:04 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Porn is fantastic.

It's been around forever anyway and people have always tried to ban it for one bullshit reason or another, but spoiler alert:

Sometimes, people want to pleasure themselves to images of other, more attractive people.

This has literally been happening since the dawn of human existence and will continue to happen until our extinction, regardless of what anyone tries to do to the contrary.


We all know what cave drawing really were if you know what I mean.

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