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CAJ Strikes again! OOC Thread

Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:40 am

OOC - this is an international incident, but should not be one that is solved through marching 500,000,000,000 troops and tanks into the region. It's designed to be small-scale terrorist/freedom fighter groups, political intrigue and police action. There may be, I imagine, some armed forces involvement, but that shouldn't be the main focus of the RP

If this takes off, then I'll construct an OOC thread for this. Whilst people can build/create vastly different roles, I should imagine we'd be looking for: 1) Nations rp'ing CAJ cells, 2)Nations who may be supporting CAJ, 3) Nations suffering similar attacks from CAJ, 4) Neighboring nations that may well have an ambivalent attitude to both CAJ and Caracasus 5) Nations RP'ing IEP.


This is the OOC thread for CAJ strikes again. I will be reserving the first couple of posts so I can provide clarification to people regarding the various actors within the RP. Have fun guys!

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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:42 am

RESERVED:

Caracasus landscape, capital cities etc:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=cara ... /id=413763


Relevant post on CAJ actions and torture:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=428933


Definitions:

CAJ - a loose collective/umbrella for a plethora of different cells. Support is mostly isolated to metropolitan areas with organised crime (Bear in mind that private enterprise is illegal) and some more remote areas of Caracasus that border with other, less stable countries. Not all CAJ cells are violent in nature, but some clearly are.

IEP - A small loose coalition of politicians. Some call them the political wing of CAJ. They certainly have common goals, namely the expansion and creation of a capitalist economy within Caracasus. An unpopular party to some, comfortably ignored by many and loved by a few. Highly confrontational.
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Postby Ril Island » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:18 am

I'm interested.
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:56 am

Well, feel free to join in! What sort of thing do you think your nation will be getting up to?
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Postby Ril Island » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:13 am

Mostly some secret operations and diplomacy. On your side. :)
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:17 am

Fair enough. Perhaps your nation had similar difficulties in the past? Caracasus hasn't had much experience with this kind of thing, other than our experiance as freedom fighters during the Nineday revolution.
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Postby Ril Island » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:12 am

Not really, but our army is MADE for this kind of thing.
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:42 am

Looking good so far Germany - human characters who believe they're doing the right thing but are held back by their own flaws in some ways. Looking good!
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:09 pm

So I'm unsure how to play my two special forces guys meeting up with CAJ. We can play the meeting however you want, or don't want, to. Mostly I just want them to observe, train and help coordinate the CAJ.
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:50 pm

Yeah, I like the meeting aspect - bear with me a while.

You may be meeting with a certain gentleman who has appeared previously.....
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Postby Tangaliro » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:21 pm

You guys may wonder how i made those CAJ refugees split out such information without any force,so i guess i better explain it a bit here.
Heres the basic explaination:
We let them stay -> They thanks us -> We give them equality and free market -> They told us that either as a show of thanks or for a bag of nice cash,but as they are only some basic members of the CAJ they don't know the details about which nations are involved,and they feel that this level of information won't hurt after all.(Some of them are simply patriotic(though disliking the government) and don't want their homeland to get controlled by foreign power,so they did this on purpose.)
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:39 pm

Tangaliro wrote:You guys may wonder how i made those CAJ refugees split out such information without any force,so i guess i better explain it a bit here.
Heres the basic explaination:
We let them stay -> They thanks us -> We give them equality and free market -> They told us that either as a show of thanks or for a bag of nice cash,but as they are only some basic members of the CAJ they don't know the details about which nations are involved,and they feel that this level of information won't hurt after all.(Some of them are simply patriotic(though disliking the government) and don't want their homeland to get controlled by foreign power,so they did this on purpose.)



No, what you are saying makes logical sense - people join that kind of movement (or any) for various reasons. Some would get into it through desperation and disillusionment, only to realise that they're suddenly too far in to leave.

Also, there are less violent cells of CAJ. It's not completely black and white - they're not all the bad guys.
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Postby Ril Island » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:51 am

Sorry, i don't have time, can't RP now. :(
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:01 am

OK. Updated with some stuff. Looks like Spirit of Hope's forces are going to get involved with something very interesting (Not sure where that's going yet to be honest, but it'll be fun finding out!) Germany's got a reply and possible mandate for further action (should they wish to take it of course) and there's a helicopter inbound to Tangalero to pick up some folks.

In other news, there's a seriously unhinged assassin on the loose with an unclear mandate, a spooky dude who has so many alterior motives I'm not even sure what he's up to and a buncha other things.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:23 pm

Right, if you don't mind I'll just write up the ambush, how many CAJ folks would be around to help? And what would the government response be like (strength and speed)?
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Postby Allanea » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:22 pm

Question: What is Caracas like economically? Is it a first-world country or a third-world one, or something in between?
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Postby Tangaliro » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:46 pm

Allanea wrote:Question: What is Caracas like economically? Is it a first-world country or a third-world one, or something in between?

According to his stats in the nation's page,if I didn't get it wrong,its probably first-world.
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Postby Allanea » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:07 pm

Yeah but I'm more interested in how he RPs this nation.
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Postby Tangaliro » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:04 pm

Allanea wrote:Yeah but I'm more interested in how he RPs this nation.

Probably won't be too different,at least to me I rp my nation according to those stats recorded in system,and I grow my military according to my industrial power and population data i got from NS Economy analysis or the usual nationstate analysis.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:57 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:Right, if you don't mind I'll just write up the ambush, how many CAJ folks would be around to help? And what would the government response be like (strength and speed)?


Four. The government response will be relatively swift, but it's a remote region. The man in grey wouldn't have given you an assignment you couldn't accomplish.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:59 am

Allanea wrote:Question: What is Caracas like economically? Is it a first-world country or a third-world one, or something in between?


Caracasus isn't a superpower (yet!) but it's an established society that functions. It's got a strong economy, and while no-one is wealthy, there aren't really any shacks or slums. Universal healthcare is in place. Fairly well developed scientifically. Relatively low levels of corruption.
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Postby Tangaliro » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:00 am

Caracasus wrote:
Allanea wrote:Question: What is Caracas like economically? Is it a first-world country or a third-world one, or something in between?


Caracasus isn't a superpower (yet!) but it's an established society that functions. It's got a strong economy, and while no-one is wealthy, there aren't really any shacks or slums. Universal healthcare is in place. Fairly well developed scientifically. Relatively low levels of corruption.

Just interested,what is your standard issue rifle?And the CAJ's?
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:03 am

Tangaliro wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Caracasus isn't a superpower (yet!) but it's an established society that functions. It's got a strong economy, and while no-one is wealthy, there aren't really any shacks or slums. Universal healthcare is in place. Fairly well developed scientifically. Relatively low levels of corruption.

Just interested,what is your standard issue rifle?And the CAJ's?



Er... well mostly Caracasusian made. Just treat it like a standard assault rifle I'd say.
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Postby Tangaliro » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:06 am

Caracasus wrote:
Tangaliro wrote:Just interested,what is your standard issue rifle?And the CAJ's?



Er... well mostly Caracasusian made. Just treat it like a standard assault rifle I'd say.

As your a socialist country,I guess I will assume your rifle are a kind of AK-like one then.
Anyway,check the IC thread,I'm not sure whether that newspaper extract I made recently is appropriate,if not,you can tell me to void it.
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“In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regiment, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them. Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.”
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