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Postby The 502nd SS » Thu May 28, 2015 6:13 pm

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The 502nd SS wrote:I fail to see a racial slur

The word "Jap."

I don't see how that is offensive
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Thu May 28, 2015 6:17 pm

"Jap" can be considered a racial slur, but in this context, it was just meant to shorten the word Japanese.
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Postby Sabara » Thu May 28, 2015 6:18 pm

Australian Antarctica wrote:"Jap" can be considered a racial slur, but in this context, it was just meant to shorten the word Japanese.

Yeah, it's the whole context thing, but I know a lot of people (personally) who would be uncomfortable hearing it out loud. There's just too much hatred/racism behind it that I don't think it's appropriate to use.
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Thu May 28, 2015 6:21 pm

Sabara wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:"Jap" can be considered a racial slur, but in this context, it was just meant to shorten the word Japanese.

Yeah, it's the whole context thing, but I know a lot of people (personally) who would be uncomfortable hearing it out loud. There's just too much hatred/racism behind it that I don't think it's appropriate to use.

Still, it's not really report worthy.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Thu May 28, 2015 6:22 pm

Sabara wrote:
Australian Antarctica wrote:"Jap" can be considered a racial slur, but in this context, it was just meant to shorten the word Japanese.

Yeah, it's the whole context thing, but I know a lot of people (personally) who would be uncomfortable hearing it out loud. There's just too much hatred/racism behind it that I don't think it's appropriate to use.

IRL I have trouble saying/writing Japanese so I often say Jap instead
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Postby Australian Antarctica » Thu May 28, 2015 6:23 pm

The 502nd SS wrote:
Sabara wrote:Yeah, it's the whole context thing, but I know a lot of people (personally) who would be uncomfortable hearing it out loud. There's just too much hatred/racism behind it that I don't think it's appropriate to use.

IRL I have trouble saying/writing Japanese so I often say Jap instead

Same here. Even when talking to Japanese friends of mine.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Thu May 28, 2015 6:25 pm

If this isn't warnable, I wanna loose my warning for saying Jap.
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Postby Sabara » Thu May 28, 2015 8:47 pm

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu May 28, 2015 10:47 pm

In context, no more actionable than calling Americans "Yanks" or Brits "Limeys".

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Don't bump because you're impatient. We'll get to it when we get to it.

The 502nd SS wrote:I fail to see a racial slur
Australian Antarctica wrote:"Jap" can be considered a racial slur

Both of you are *** warned for spamming a Moderation [Report] thread ***

Sebtopiaris wrote:If this isn't warnable, I wanna loose my warning for saying Jap.

You've never been warned for a word. You've got multiple warnings for the context in which you used a variety of words to flame, troll, and flamebait.
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Postby Cerillium » Fri May 29, 2015 9:25 am

Most respectfully, I request a second opinion of the slur, Fris.

I stated in a prior discussion:

"Many young Western people aren't aware that "Jap/Jappy" is a slur. Likewise, not many North Americans are aware that "kaffir" is now considered a racial slur - they aren't intentionally attacking people by writing it in their factbooks or posts. Sometimes all it takes is a polite telegram or post to alert the transgressor to their social blunder. I've done so in the past and, with the exception of one extremely rude individual, the young Westerners were very understanding and altered their posts/etc to reflect "Japan" or "Japanese" or "South African".

Enfaru is correct; Mods look at acceptable standards. Also, this is a Western forum and it tends to make rulings based upon Western thought. We can not insist that people conform to our specific Eastern cultures when we are participants in a Western setting. Should you encounter something you believe to be racist or a flame post, report it to Moderation. It is helpful if you do more than post "this is racist!"; provide details in your report that explain or support your belief."


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Lunas Legion wrote:
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I think you're over-estimating US resources while I'm underestimating them.

Not yet. Give it... Eh, 3 decades at most. Then they'll begin getting desperate. The Japs were getting desperate way back in the 1940s; part of the reason they entered WW2 was for resources. They're running a surplus now, but barely, and only due to deflation distorting export prices.


In context, Luna's use of "Japs" describes the people from the era from which the slur arose.

"Jap" stems from "Colloquial abbreviation of Japanese, by 1880 as a noun, 1892 as an adjective, not originally pejorative but became so during World War II. It was protested by Japanese before the war, but did not begin to be taboo in the U.S. before 1960s. For some years after World War II in American English the word also functioned as a verb, "to execute a sneak attack upon," a reference to Pearl Harbor." (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... hmode=none)

"Limey" stems from "1888, Australian, New Zealand, and South African slang for "English immigrant;" U.S. use is attested from 1918, originally "British sailor, British warship," short for lime-juicer (1857), in derisive reference to the British Navy's policy (begun 1795) of issuing lime (n.2) juice on ships to prevent scurvy among sailors. In U.S., extended to "any Englishman" by 1924." (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... hmode=none) I don't know enough about the British to say whether or not they take offense to the word.

"Yankee" stems from "1683, a name applied disparagingly by Dutch settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut." (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... hmode=none). It was later abbreviated to "Yank". It seems to have been embraced by American and proudly applied to candles, baseball teams, and magazines.

"Jap" is highly offensive to many Japanese people. I'm Japanese. I do not believe Lunas intended to post a slur however. My request for a second opinion isn't to seek punishment. Rather, it's an appeal to Moderation to group the word with other pejorative words such as "nigger", "khokhol", "tranny", "coon" etc.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Fri May 29, 2015 10:03 am

And thus far, it has been to my knowledge. Lumped in with those other slurs.

It wouldn't be the first time it was used in conjunction with the era happenings. I think that's largely why the warning was implemented - knowing and understanding what was going on during that time, one would think a player might know better than to use the slurs of the time in referencing various forces. It strengthens the stereotype and bias of that time, and brings it to present.


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