how weird would the world be if soviet union never created

[Panstine]

sorry about the way the subject is put on there needed to save letters but generally don't what the world would be like it would be the same if world war 1 never happened

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

Yes it would. World War I always happens.

[Jagellion]

Well tsarist russia would probably turn into a democracy like great britain. They would still have a royal family but they wouldnt have any control. Russia would probably be a close ally with the west. Some eastern european countries might not exist like poland, ukrain, belarus, moldova.

[New Werpland]

Well Marxist revolutionaries and other left wingers would be more popular and viable than they are today, most likely.

But this OP needs to be expanded I suppose.

[Jagellion]

oh yeah, world war 1 would happen because ww2 would be ww1

[Panstine]

oh yes i know but what is the things that triggered world war 1 never happened it would be a different world and a strange one what if religion was not around

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

Well tsarist russia would probably turn into a democracy like great britain. They would still have a royal family but they wouldnt have any control. Russia would probably be a close ally with the west. Some eastern european countries might not exist like poland, ukrain, belarus, moldova.

Why is that, exactly? Russians were loyal to the Tsar, and the only reason the Russian Revolution happened is because Nicholas II was a failure of a ruler.

[Communist Volkstrad]

oh yeah, world war 1 would happen because ww2 would be ww1

World War II wouldn't occur if WWI didn't.

[New Werpland]

Does this mean that Russia is still Tsarist? Or that it transitioned to a democracy that the Bolsheviks didn't manage to get rid of?

[Jagellion]

Well tsarist russia would probably turn into a democracy like great britain. They would still have a royal family but they wouldnt have any control. Russia would probably be a close ally with the west. Some eastern european countries might not exist like poland, ukrain, belarus, moldova.

Why is that, exactly? Russians were loyal to the Tsar, and the only reason the Russian Revolution happened is because Nicholas II was a failure of a ruler.

no, later on, it would gradually become more of a democracy, the monarchy would get less power

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

oh yes i know but what is the things that triggered world war 1 never happened it would be a different world and a strange one what if religion was not around

You would have to change large parts of history.

[Moralem Populi]

The outcome of WWII could have been much different, perhaps for the worse.

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

Why is that, exactly? Russians were loyal to the Tsar, and the only reason the Russian Revolution happened is because Nicholas II was a failure of a ruler.

no, later on, it would gradually become more of a democracy, the monarchy would get less power

But why?

[Panstine]

see what i mean thinking about it make it seem strange

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

Welcome to Alternate History.

(As mentioned above, your OP is too vague, so that could be a reason.)

[New Werpland]

The outcome of WWII could have been much different, perhaps for the worse.

WW2 wouldn't have happened, because if WW1 didn't happen Hitler wouldn't have been as popular as he was.

[Greater Soviet Ukraine]

The outcome of WWII could have been much different, perhaps for the worse.

WW2 wouldn't have happened, because if WW1 didn't happen Hitler wouldn't have been as popular as he was.

WWII would just be WWI delayed a bit, without Hitler and the Nazis.

[New Werpland]

WW2 wouldn't have happened, because if WW1 didn't happen Hitler wouldn't have been as popular as he was.

WWII would just be WWI delayed a bit, without Hitler and the Nazis.

Possibly.

[Neo Telangana]

Without the Soviet Union and the large-scale industrialization that took place during the 20s and 30s, Russians would be defeated by the Nazis. Many more Slavs would likely have met the same fate as the Jews. The Nazis may have ended up winning the land war in continental Europe, and pursued a kind of Cold War with America/Britain. The Japanese, seeing the German conquest of European Russia, would likely have seized Siberia in due course.

[Jagellion]

no, later on, it would gradually become more of a democracy, the monarchy would get less power

But why?

i dont know, maybe instead of a communist revolution it would be a capitalist revolution. Maybe the same thing that happened to britain happens to russia

[Moralem Populi]

The outcome of WWII could have been much different, perhaps for the worse.

WW2 wouldn't have happened, because if WW1 didn't happen Hitler wouldn't have been as popular as he was.

Who said anything about WWI not happening? The other great powers may have still mobilized.

[St Salvador]

I dont know if you mean if ww1 never happened or if The reds lost the civil war so Ill answer both.

if They lost the revolution russia would have become a weak democracy that's still backwards by 1940 with human wave tactics and few Factories when hitler invades this army might have good officers but there not gonna be as motivated as the ones under stalin a lot more russians are gonna surrender and there's a better chance of Germany seizing moscow remember stalin was the one who industrialized the soviet union and made a russian victory possible. hitler will probably even create more ukrainian and baltic troops to use against russia and keep them at a stalemate like ww1

if ww1 never happened in 1914 it most certainly would have happened latter who knows if the tank would exist by then or if the alliances have changed I dont know thats why i like books that expand on that idea.

[Panstine]

The outcome of WWII could have been much different, perhaps for the worse.

WW2 wouldn't have happened, because if WW1 didn't happen Hitler wouldn't have been as popular as he was.

well hitter was only drown to national socialism after the war so if never happened no Hitler in government

[Panstine]

if the soviet union never happened and world war 1 did we would have lost the war because of rasputin if he wasn't killed he wanted to make a traitey in 1917 to stop Russians being killed and then the German soldiers from the eastern front in western front

[Greed and Death]

Well tsarist russia would probably turn into a democracy like great britain. They would still have a royal family but they wouldnt have any control. Russia would probably be a close ally with the west. Some eastern european countries might not exist like poland, ukrain, belarus, moldova.

The Tsars were overthrown before the Bolsheviks came to power.

I would see break away countries from western Russia still being mad as a democratic regime would be too tired to continue fighting to keep them in.