[DEFEATED] The Right to Bear Arms

[Alvisiror]

"Gun Ownership is something that should be left up to the Individual NationStates within the Membership as it is not a 'dedicated human right' as such things as Voting Rights, Women's Rights, Minority Rights, etc. If the leadership of both your nation and the nation that drafted up this rather garbage piece of legislation cannot comprehend that, then I fear we are in for one hell of a legislative session for the next few months."

"Good for you, but when this bill fails, it does not automatically mean that Guns are banned in all WA nations. I now that's contrary to public opinion, but that's how things work around here."

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Mr. Antuan D. Flaberghast
Shazbotdom Ambassador to the WA

If this bill fails the WA will have no authority to ban guns in our nation. Ownership of firearms is seen as a basic human right and is in the constitution. It is one's right to self defence.
Any attempt by the WA to ban guns will lead to our immediate withdrawal.

We will not allow our policy to be dictated by other nations.

[Excidium Planetis]

We will not allow our policy to be dictated by other nations.

Then why are you in the WA?

[Alvisiror]

We will not allow our policy to be dictated by other nations.

Then why are you in the WA?

To improve the current legislation that we have and help other nations in need.
The WA offers a sense of community which is good for establishing relations with nations that are too far away.

This article is found to be most alarming by the Alvis parliament.

Section III:
The Role of the World Assembly:
Article 9 § Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty.

This one article threatens the sovereignty of every nation in the WA.

[The Wring Nation]

They're typos. Calm down.

And a typo in the wrong spot on a legal document is the difference between a conviction and an acquittal.

The Wring Nation would like to emphasize this point.

We recognize the legitimate governments of Wring Empire and Wring People. We Wring have every right to migrate and choose our own government(s)!

It's appalling that this proposal managed to reach quorum. Do people even bother to read them beforehand? One look and one notices these critical typos. Honestly if the WA wishes to be taken seriously, especially when it's writing legal documents (granted, fantasy documents), editing and drafting should be mandatory!

[Erbilistan]

Then why are you in the WA?

To improve the current legislation that we have and help other nations in need.
The WA offers a sense of community which is good for establishing relations with nations that are too far away.

This article is found to be most alarming by the Alvis parliament.

Section III:
The Role of the World Assembly:
Article 9 § Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty.

This one article threatens the sovereignty of every nation in the WA.

Despite obvious cultural and religious differences, many of which would lead to their execution if they entered Erbilistan, the Grand Emir has shown agreement with these statements, stating "The WA, while publicly asserting intent to better all associated Nations, does nothing more than endanger and trample all who affiliate therein by even proposing these sorts of legislative measures. Furthermore, we must refuse any attempt from those who would seek to alienate us for seeing through this charade by maintaining a strong and open presence on both proposed and potential legislation."

[Excidium Planetis]

Then why are you in the WA?

To improve the current legislation that we have and help other nations in need.
The WA offers a sense of community which is good for establishing relations with nations that are too far away.

This article is found to be most alarming by the Alvis parliament.

Section III:
The Role of the World Assembly:
Article 9 § Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty.

This one article threatens the sovereignty of every nation in the WA.

Is your idea of "improving" legislation getting rid of it? Because that's what you'd have to do. Every WA resolution "threatens the sovereignty of every nation in the WA". Even your gun rights proposal threatens national sovereignty by both making it illegal to completely restrict guns and making it illegal to not have any restrictions on guns. No WA resolution ever increased national sovereignty.

And if you want a sense of community, there are literally thousands of international organizations you can join, Ambassador. Our own nation has established contacts through the League of Mechanocracies and the Global Trade Organization. There are others who join such organizations as the Anti-Ponyist Union or whatever those Thermonuclear Warfare supporters call their group.

That article is in Rights and Duties of WA States, which practically defines the WA. Joining the WA (willingly!) and then complaining about that clause is like choosing to eat at McDonald's and then complaining that they serve fast food. Maybe if you were actually as bold as the Auralia ambassador and tried to repeal it, I'd forgive your hypocrisy.

So, do you have a non-hypocritical reason for supporting the idea behind the current resolution?

[Draganone]

The Democratic States of Draganone does not support this bill.
Our constitution says:
[T]he use of arms for private self-defense does not warrant federal constitutional protection from state regulation.
This is one of the many reasons.

[Wrapper]

(A bright, shimmering light emanates from the center of the room, and the Wrapperian Ambassador and his assistant materialize. They are, once again, dressed in white tuxedos -- only this time, Wad Ahume's blue carnation is lodged in his hair, his cummerbund tied around his neck, his shredded pink bowtie swinging from his wrist like ribbons as he shuffles his feet; Wad Ahume's blue bowtie is tied around his forehead, his cummerbund is covering his eyes like a blindfold, and his pink carnation protrudes and sways tantalizingly from the unzippered portion of his slacks. Their hair is drippy and sticky, their clothing damp, as the scent of ethanol radiates from their bodies. Wad Ahume is once again thumping out percussion on his body and face, while Wad Ari improvises a rap.)

Playoffs? Wh-what's that? PLAYOFFS! P-p-p-p-p-playoffs? Wha-wha-what's that? PLAYOFFS! You kidding me? We goin to the playoffs? Wha-wha-wha....

(Wad Ahume stops his noises and taps Wad Ari a few times on the shoulder. Ari sighs emphatically.)

The WA, right? The gun thing again? (he lifts a corner of his cummerbund blindfold, then removes it.) Of course. At least they waited for the end of the performance this ti-- Oh, HAHAHAHAHA! Over 11,000 votes against? AWESOME! Ahem! We the Puddle Jumping Wads of Wrapper thank the voters for their common sense in voting down this horrid attempt to mandate weaponization in our nation, which allows us to continue our membersh... oh screw it, we're getting drunk! Wad Ahume, this calls for more celebration, give us a beat! Wa... wa... wa... weapons? What's that? WEAPONS? No no no no weapons. What's that? Weapons? You kidding me? Weap....

(Ahume taps him on the shoulder and whispers in Ari's ear. Ari's head droops.)

Really? REALLY? Fine, on to the next debate. I swear once the playoffs start in two weeks, these nincompoops are on their own....

[Defwa]

Then why are you in the WA?

To improve the current legislation that we have and help other nations in need.
The WA offers a sense of community which is good for establishing relations with nations that are too far away.

This article is found to be most alarming by the Alvis parliament.

Section III:
The Role of the World Assembly:
Article 9 § Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty.

This one article threatens the sovereignty of every nation in the WA.

Then again, WHY ARE YOU HERE. That clause is the basis of the WA. It is an organization designed to erode national sovereignty in order to improve international relations and human rights. As such compliance is a mandatory condition of your membership.

OOC: This is not the UN. Membership is not assumed. You join because you want to obey WA law in order to add complexity to your roleplay as opposed to your nation being a direct (and probably naive) reflection of your political opinions

[Tecton]

Right to bear arms? What about the right to arm bears?

[Curupiri]

Then again, WHY ARE YOU HERE. That clause is the basis of the WA. It is an organization designed to erode national sovereignty in order to improve international relations and human rights. As such compliance is a mandatory condition of your membership.

The Republic of Curupiria would like to remind the Honored Delegate from Defwa that there are those who have chosen to join the World Assembly with the intent, consciously or otherwise, to specifically impede its effectiveness as an international body as a means of undermining what they see as a threat to their national interests and sovereignty. We do not condone this practice and feel those who do should simply withdraw from the Assembly, but it may be a motivation for the more obstructionist members of this chamber.

Seriously. Have you met Representative Swanson? That guy would burn this place down tomorrow if he could.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Thankfully, "Right to Bear Arms" was defeated 11,750 votes to 4,015.

So we can move on now.

[Shazbotdom]

If this bill fails the WA will have no authority to ban guns in our nation. Ownership of firearms is seen as a basic human right and is in the constitution. It is one's right to self defence.
Any attempt by the WA to ban guns will lead to our immediate withdrawal.

We will not allow our policy to be dictated by other nations.

"My diluted ambassador, NO ONE within the WA wants to ban your guns. Sorry to burst your bubble. Now if are you done with your delusions of grandeur, let us do move on from this as was suggested by the Ambassador from Sierra Lyricalia."

Mr. Antuan D. Flaberghast
Shazbotdom Ambassador to the WA

[Separatist Peoples]

Any attempt by the WA to ban guns will lead to our immediate withdrawal.

We will not allow our policy to be dictated by other nations.

"Good for you. Ignoring the fact that the WA dictates policy based on majority vote, what makes you think holding your nation's withdrawal over our heads much matters to us?"