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Moscow Victory Parade 2015

Postby The Conez Imperium » Wed May 06, 2015 4:44 am

Watch it live on May 9th at 07:00 GMT via RT ! http://rt.com/on-air/victory-parade-relay-may/

Watch it live also on youtube ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-be7QKdpc

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So on the 9th of May as of every year, Russia has a military parade commemorating the anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945.

What's special about this parade is that it's the 70th anniversary, the biggest parade thus far. Furthermore for those interested in military equipment Russia is debuting their new Armata platforms along with bringing back the T-34 and SU-100.

I like these parades, I find it fun to watch military muscle and the only countries that do military parades this day and age are China and Russia. There's a feeling of unity and muscle that jabs me when I watch any military parade especially one as grandiose as Moscow Victory parade. However others may not feel this, others might hate all the nationalistic, militaristic pride on display and I understand that. It's an uncomfortable feeling looking at a military unit that is dressed for war. Especially with Russia driving around their TOPOL-M's but I guess the question that pokes me is this.

Are military parades dated practices in this day and age? Are they a showing of national pride and remembrance or simply waving the bigger sword (look at my ICBMs on trucks !!!)? Also on a personal level, do you enjoy watching military parades?

Also feel free to discuss this years Victory Parade.
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Postby Agritum » Wed May 06, 2015 4:46 am

I like these parades, I find it fun to watch military muscle and the only countries that do military parades this day and age are China and Russia.


As far as I know, Italy does them too.

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Postby Lingria » Wed May 06, 2015 4:48 am

Cool, I watched the 2012 one, it went on for like 1 hour. Let's hope this year the Russians show us that they can be forgiving and show they aren't Communists like games and movies put them out to be.
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Postby Roma Byzantina » Wed May 06, 2015 4:49 am

I'm partial to a good military parade, unfortunately almost everyone here in the US would scream "Dictator" if a President tried implementing one. I wish more countries held it considering that waving around your military muscles is a sure-fire way of getting your nation into relevance.
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Wed May 06, 2015 5:02 am

This year is extra special because Kimmy J is coming down to Moscow and hitting up his bestie Vlad the Lad's Pad, the Kremlin.
I'm kinda hoping the CIA assassinate him.
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Postby Agritum » Wed May 06, 2015 5:04 am

Roma Byzantina wrote:I'm partial to a good military parade, unfortunately almost everyone here in the US would scream "Dictator" if a President tried implementing one. I wish more countries held it considering that waving around your military muscles is a sure-fire way of getting your nation into relevance.

I don't recall NK being considered as a "serious" nation, but they surely do a shitload of parades.

It's not the Classical Age anymore, man.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 06, 2015 5:05 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:This year is extra special because Kimmy J is coming down to Moscow and hitting up his bestie Vlad the Lad's Pad, the Kremlin.
I'm kinda hoping the CIA assassinate him.

NK isn't going anymore.

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Postby Teemant » Wed May 06, 2015 5:07 am

Actually 9th of May parade hasn't been important in Russia since 1945. It was rather irrelevant during Stalin and Nikita Khrushchev era.

And World War 2 in Europe ended on 7th May...
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Postby Aelex » Wed May 06, 2015 5:08 am

Agritum wrote:
I like these parades, I find it fun to watch military muscle and the only countries that do military parades this day and age are China and Russia.


As far as I know, Italy does them too.

France do it too. Each year.
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Wed May 06, 2015 5:08 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Reddogkeno101 wrote:This year is extra special because Kimmy J is coming down to Moscow and hitting up his bestie Vlad the Lad's Pad, the Kremlin.
I'm kinda hoping the CIA assassinate him.

NK isn't going anymore.

I was getting excited there, bugger. Nonetheless, it's 70 years and these days it's nothing but a show of strength. If they really wanted to commemorate it, they'd put the veterans on parade (In vehicles of course, they are getting old).
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Postby Scepez » Wed May 06, 2015 5:09 am

Same shit, different year.

Although the extra military equipment might be of some interest, I'm not huge of a fan of their muscle stretching (Especially right now due to what's happening in Ukraine).

But then again, my view might be biased. Oh well.
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Postby Roma Byzantina » Wed May 06, 2015 5:09 am

Agritum wrote:
Roma Byzantina wrote:I'm partial to a good military parade, unfortunately almost everyone here in the US would scream "Dictator" if a President tried implementing one. I wish more countries held it considering that waving around your military muscles is a sure-fire way of getting your nation into relevance.

I don't recall NK being considered as a "serious" nation, but they surely do a shitload of parades.

It's not the Classical Age anymore, man.

They do too many parades then. There's a point in which your military waving just becomes annoying and NK has blown past that part.
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Postby Teemant » Wed May 06, 2015 5:09 am

Aelex wrote:
Agritum wrote:
As far as I know, Italy does them too.

France do it too. Each year.


More like every country in Europe.
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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Wed May 06, 2015 5:11 am

Teemant wrote:
Aelex wrote:France do it too. Each year.


More like every country in Europe.

Flexing the muscles isn't exactly a good idea. If it's meant to respect the war's end, put those who ended up as the heroes, not the current people.
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Postby Aelex » Wed May 06, 2015 5:12 am

Teemant wrote:More like every country in Europe.

I thought that the German didn't have an army anymore...
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Postby Teemant » Wed May 06, 2015 5:13 am

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Teemant wrote:
More like every country in Europe.

Flexing the muscles isn't exactly a good idea. If it's meant to respect the war's end, put those who ended up as the heroes, not the current people.


Parades are mostly not about flexing muscles. It's for fun and to show people that military is there to protect them. Flexing muscles is for example flying jets and bombers near other countries borders (with transponders turned off) which seems to be Russias go to move right now.
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Postby Miletos » Wed May 06, 2015 5:17 am

Aelex wrote:
Teemant wrote:More like every country in Europe.

I thought that the German didn't have an army anymore...

They do, it's just neither very big nor used very often.

I'm pretty certain that, for obvious cultural and historical reasons, Germany doesn't have an annual military parade, and I've never seen a large-scale parade of current military hardware here in the UK either - we have Remembrance Sunday, but that tends to involve commemoration of veterans and past conflicts rather than parading lots of hardware about.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed May 06, 2015 5:20 am

Reddogkeno101 wrote:
Teemant wrote:
More like every country in Europe.

Flexing the muscles isn't exactly a good idea. If it's meant to respect the war's end, put those who ended up as the heroes, not the current people.

Then isn't it all the more reason to have this one be the biggest yet? This is the last one that will have Great Patriotic War veterans in any large numbers. Due to health issues, though, it will be unlikely that it will be like the 1985 parade (where WWII veterans of several countries marched as the parade's vanguard).
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 06, 2015 5:23 am

Agritum wrote:
I like these parades, I find it fun to watch military muscle and the only countries that do military parades this day and age are China and Russia.


As far as I know, Italy does them too.


Best Korea also does.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Wed May 06, 2015 5:24 am

Teemant wrote:Actually 9th of May parade hasn't been important in Russia since 1945. It was rather irrelevant during Stalin and Nikita Khrushchev era.

And World War 2 in Europe ended on 7th May...


Although the German surrender was signed on the 8th, Moscow celebrates it on the 9th since it was signed after midnight Moscow time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender
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Postby Teemant » Wed May 06, 2015 5:27 am

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Teemant wrote:Actually 9th of May parade hasn't been important in Russia since 1945. It was rather irrelevant during Stalin and Nikita Khrushchev era.

And World War 2 in Europe ended on 7th May...


Although the German surrender was signed on the 8th, Moscow celebrates it on the 9th since it was signed after midnight Moscow time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender


Germany surrendered on 7th as we can see in this article,
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 06, 2015 5:28 am

Teemant wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:
Although the German surrender was signed on the 8th, Moscow celebrates it on the 9th since it was signed after midnight Moscow time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender


Germany surrendered on 7th as we can see in this article,


And the surrender wasn't signed until the 8th, technically the 9th in Moscow. Several German units also fought longer.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Wed May 06, 2015 5:28 am

Teemant wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:
Although the German surrender was signed on the 8th, Moscow celebrates it on the 9th since it was signed after midnight Moscow time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender


Germany surrendered on 7th as we can see in this article,


They signed in on 2 days. Don't know which one is more "official".

It was signed by representatives of the Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) and the Allied Expeditionary Force together with the Soviet High Command, French representative signing as witness on 7 May 1945, and signed again by representatives of the three armed services of the OKW and the Allied Expeditionary Force together with the Supreme High Command of the Red Army, French and US representatives signing as witnesses on 8 May 1945
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Postby Lucent and East Forest » Wed May 06, 2015 5:34 am

Actually the UK has a big military parade- the Trooping of the Colour. But its all old-fashioned.

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Postby Teemant » Wed May 06, 2015 5:35 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Teemant wrote:
Germany surrendered on 7th as we can see in this article,


And the surrender wasn't signed until the 8th, technically the 9th in Moscow. Several German units also fought longer.


Moscow was just unhappy how Germany surrendered to Western allies in 7th May so Germany had to surrender once more. Also Moscow found that it is essential that Germany surrenders in Berlin (which doesn't make sense).
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