Worst/most horrific people in history

[Defence league]

My vote personally goes to Tojo but

Adolf hitler: created of the nazi interment camps for the disabled, Jews, blacks, and anyone who spoke up to him. Murderer of 12 million human beings.

Joseph Stalin: leader of the communist Soviet Union during and after for about 15 years, he caused famines and had soldiers murder farmers for not working hard enough then he caused random people in town to farm, they didn't know and they didn't produce enough. They were murdered too. His communist society said that if you spoke up to those above you, you might get killed. If you wasted their resources, you and your loved ones would be hurt. Murderer of 20 million human beings

Tojo: "leader" of Japan during World War II, when Japan saw their soon to be loss, they told women and children to find sticks and sharpen them, to charge at the Americans and stab as many as possible before you were shot. He was the inventor of kamikaze, where you would board a plane with a bomb in it, and drive yourself into a ship, committing suicide but also killing the "devilish" Americans. When his soldiers weren't under orders, the Nanking massacre happened http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

Osama bin laden: leader of the al-Qaeda a group that claimed responsible for 9-11, and many other horrible terrorist attacks. His group still exists today, however it has broken up because of his death.

Kim Jong il: Supreme ruler of North Korea from 1994-2011, he caused multiple horrible famines in his country and was the leader of a terrorist group that was based and attacked HIS OWN COUNTRY.

Kim Jong Un: Current Supreme ruler of North Korea, recently he has been in a scandal where the press found out about him doing executions by shooting cannonballs and other guns at his victim, till he/she dies

[United Russian Soviet States]

I would say it was Adolf Hitler. He committed his actions out of hatred. He also started World War II.

[Draakonite]

So, i locked at the OP thinking:

Adolf hitler

Of course, the most well known name in history.

Joseph Stalin

An obvious option, the further you go east, the more likely he is placed higher than Hitler.

Tojo

Emm, okay. In my opinion he was nothing more than a marionette.

Osama bin laden

What? Isn't there a minimum requirement to be put on this list?

Kim Jong il

Ehh

Kim Jong Un

wut?

Seriously. You start with the most obvious, and continue with people who don't even play in the same league! Where is the scourge of the east, Chinghis Khan? Where is Greatest Leader Chairman Mao ?

[New Werpland]

Why did you make another thread that was almost exactly the same, just without Pol Pot?

[Living Freedom Land]

Obviously Mao was worst, the dictator who killed more people than anyone else in history.

[New Werpland]

Obviously Mao was worst, the dictator who killed more people than anyone else in history.

I don't think that was his intention.

[Living Freedom Land]

Obviously Mao was worst, the dictator who killed more people than anyone else in history.

I don't think that was his intention.

Even ignoring the starvation caused by his economic policy, he had millions executed.

But come on, how many people do you have to starve before you realize your economic policies are killing people? We could give him the benefit of the doubt and say a few million at most. Even Lenin learned and created his NEP.

[Ragutsa]

Where the hell are the american presidents?

[New Werpland]

I don't think that was his intention.

Even ignoring the starvation caused by his economic policy, he had millions executed.

But come on, how many people do you have to starve before you realize your economic policies are killing people? We could give him the benefit of the doubt and say a few million at most. Even Lenin learned and created his NEP.

We should judge people based on the character in which they act, not by the result of their actions. Mao probably had fewer malevolent intentions than say Pol Pot, the reason so many people died under his rule was because his economic policies didn't work out according to plan.

[Flyover]

Where the hell are the american presidents?

There are presidents that did some bad things (*coughcough* Native American genocide *coughcough*) but I don't think any of them have done anything on the level of, say, Saddam or Pol Pot.

[Hanging Garden]

Karl Marx.

[The Ascended Empire]

I'm gunna go with Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot on this one.

[Living Freedom Land]

Even ignoring the starvation caused by his economic policy, he had millions executed.

But come on, how many people do you have to starve before you realize your economic policies are killing people? We could give him the benefit of the doubt and say a few million at most. Even Lenin learned and created his NEP.

We should judge people based on the character in which they act, not by the result of their actions. Mao probably had fewer malevolent intentions than say Pol Pot, the reason so many people died under his rule was because his economic policies didn't work out according to plan.

You can judge them solely based on that, but I tend to go for using both intentions and outcomes to judge an action. Makes intuitive more sense to me, tbh.

And Mao is still a mass murderer even discounting all the starvation. He wouldn't be the worst based on that count, but still up there.

[Ragutsa]

Where the hell are the american presidents?

There are presidents that did some bad things (*coughcough* Native American genocide *coughcough*) but I don't think any of them have done anything on the level of, say, Saddam or Pol Pot.

I agree
But still, its not cute to install a dictator in every country you know

[Imperia Babylonia]

OP is biased. It's a known fact that it was the Americans unleashing a bio weapon that caused the famines, not the Korean government.

[Living Freedom Land]

Karl Marx.

Solely being wrong and having leftist political views does not make one evil

And, for all I know, Marx may have been great fun to have a beer with.

[Flyover]

There are presidents that did some bad things (*coughcough* Native American genocide *coughcough*) but I don't think any of them have done anything on the level of, say, Saddam or Pol Pot.

I agree
But still, its not cute to install a dictator in every country you know

Nor to allow the horrific institution of slavery to continue (Not that they all WANTED to, I'd imagine) but I'd argue they clearly don't belong in the same class.

But maybe I'm an Americentric pig-dog capitalist imperialist with an agenda. I am.

In my opinion, the classification for "Worst person" should go to whomever had the worst intentions from the outset, and not necessarily the most success at implementing that plan. I don't quite know who that would be, though. Hitler, probz.

[Ragutsa]

I agree
But still, its not cute to install a dictator in every country you know

Nor to allow the horrific institution of slavery to continue (Not that they all WANTED to, I'd imagine) but I'd argue they clearly don't belong in the same class.

But maybe I'm an Americentric pig-dog capitalist imperialist with an agenda. I am.

In my opinion, the classification for "Worst person" should go to whomever had the worst intentions from the outset, and not necessarily the most success at implementing that plan. I don't quite know who that would be, though. Hitler, probz.

No, I meant more the goverment than the people

[Shnercropolis]

My neighbors.

[Cyrisnia]

OP.

[The Qeiiam Galaxy]

OP is biased. It's a known fact that it was the Americans unleashing a bio weapon that caused the famines, not the Korean government.

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

[New Carloso]

I'd rate Pol Pot as worse over all of them.

[Kaboomlandia]

Why isn't Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of a religious extremist group that has made repeated threats against the world, on the poll?

(He's the leader of ISIL)

[Laerod]

Hrm. This is always a tough one because it glosses over some rather nasty things that historical figures from a little longer ago pulled off. Like, Genghis Khan apparently built mountains out of the skulls of people living in the cities that wouldn't surrender.

Without making a definite claim, I'd suggest Joseph Mengele. He had a rather hands on involvement in the holocaust that makes him nastier than your regular Schreibtischtäter. So evil was he that not even his comrades in arms from the Waffen SS wanted to be associated with him and attempted to have him struck from their rolls.

[Communist Volkstrad]

I'd probably have to go with Himmler, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot as being up there.