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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]
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Postby The Republic of Bohemoravia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:10 am

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For some time the Republic of Bohemoravia has been following the international incidents. What we have seen is a lot of war crimes, crimes against humanity and other criminal acts like black mail and extortion.

We are looking to our fellow democracies to make this world a better place, if necessary through direct intervention.

I am certain that we are not the first nation who came up with the idea of establishing an International Criminal Court so we can judge and detain international criminals. If you have information on the current state of an international court than please forward them to us. If no such institution exists, this might be the perfect place to start one.

We would need lawyers, judges and many things more from the nations wishing to participate. It is just an idea now but we could make it work if we cooperate.

Looking forward to your ideas

Prime Minister Jan Bedrich

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Postby Titanisa » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:21 am

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The Exiled Imperium of Titanisa wishes to koin such a organization and we would wholeheartedly support it, as our forefathers have. In memorial of Emperor Erebus Bloodmoon IX the Just, the Exiled throne of Titanisa formally supports the creation of these courts as signed by Crown Prince Navos Bloodmoon first of his name.

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Postby Titanisa » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:59 am

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In accordance with the New ideologies of the Reformed Republic of Titanisa we of the White Phoenix council feel it necessary for our young nation to prove our righteousness and by joining and supporting the creation of these courts we hope to do so.

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Postby The Republic of Bohemoravia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:32 am

We welcome the white Phoenix and are willing to cooperate further with your nation if you are willing to have further democratic reforms.

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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:49 am

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Esteemed Leadership of Republic of Bohemoravia,

As a humble military man who had been given enormous honour of being the Shogun of the Empire of Greater Nihon, I must ask your group, as well as all nations involved in this enterprise, a few questions on behalf the Nihonese government, the military and people of Dai Nihon Teikkoku, as well as people of all our protectorates such as Kosun, Jakaranpura of An`nam. These questions are definite in nature and should set purpose of this enterprise straight.

For first, I am asking you, who gave you right to impose this tribunal, and on what basis are you imposing it - especially that you spoke about "direct intervention" - and by it I suppose you mean direct military intervention - to enforce the court's verdict. We all are aware of sovereignty of all countries around the world, and while I do not commend acts of, "black mail and extortion", I must say that in my humble opinion this court has no legal right to exist. It is neither any part of world assembly (and even in such event it would concern WA member nations only), nor part of any respected international organisation. As I see it, your nation at this point has no right to hold such coup. What made your nation superior to others, world police deciding what is the best option and what should be done? Please answer me.

Furthermore a question of law appears. As everybody can state, there is no "universal law" (even tough I personally believe that best and universal law is the one given by God Almighty) that states follow. As you can see, there is WA law, but not all nations are WA members nor agreed to abide by this law. While some acts like genocide are morally wrong, there is no institution that sets the international law standards. Therefore I can say, this court is even more illegitimate.

As continuing, you already threatened to enforce verdicts by force. Does it not make you hypocritical that you claim to stop war and want to start war to enforce this court' s decree? I am a soldier, I seen war. I do not love it, but sometimes war is needed. I am not wishing to start any, but I Nihonese never were and not are cowards, and whoever comes at us with sword by sword will die.

Please, answer those questions; they would do good for us all.
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Postby The Republic of Bohemoravia » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:25 am

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Your Excellency,

Before I am going to answer your questions in detail please allow me to express my personal gratitude of having the honor of directly communicating with you. I have studied your works ever since I was a recruit in the armed forces of Bohemoravia.

Please allow me this rare moment to present you with a gift from the people of Bohemoravia.

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For your service to Greater Nihon, and also to Bohemoravia and soldiers all across the world we would like to give you a sabre belonging to Ioannes Rasus, the national hero of Bohemoravia who successfully rebelled against foreign rule.
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Let us now talk business. Your questions are very helpful because they are directed at the very soul of this undertaking.
You ask me who gave me the right to impose this tribunal? I answer you, you! You ask me on what basis I will impose it and I answer you, on your consent. This court, if it is coming to existence will not be a Bohemoravian undertaking. We don’t want any nation to hold particular power over it.

The World Assembly is a tiger without teeth. They have not solved a single conflict and they have not been able to enforce one of their own resolutions. Obviously this tool is not working. It is nothing but a debating club which has not slowed down a single genocide throughout its existence.

Like courts in sovereign nations the international court should exist to protect the weak against the strong, help to settle disputes peacefully and no one should be above the law. Bohemoravia has no intention to become a world police, neither do we have the means to do so. The court should draw its legitimacy from the acceptance of the rulings by the nations. Judges and members of the jury should not come from the nations seeking to have their disputes settled, to guarantee neutrality and objectivity in the rulings.

In all the conflicts I have witnessed, in all the wars I have participated the deliberate use of weapons of mass destruction against civilians by WA members and non-WA members alike was one of the first moves. Knowing that they have nothing to fear from the WA or anybody else world leaders quickly resort to violence and when it comes to conflict they are not shy of using a genocide as a tool to get what they want.

We are not superior to others, what we are trying to do at the moment is leading by example. We need a tool that stops genocides from happening and that helps to prevent wars. In order to get to that point we need the help of nations like you, nations that have a conscience and leaders who are not indifferent to the world’s problems.

This court, which you call illegitimate does not even exist. We are just in a stage of planning such a body. In my dreams membership of the court would be voluntary and all nations would participate just like with courts inside those nations. Therefore I think it would be a good start to bring the court into existence and make its service available to the nations. If one side wishes the court to settle a dispute, rather than fight a war we would have won a lot.

Having the backing of a neural court is a better solution in my opinion than rallying biased allies under your flag in case of a conflict.

Setting up the rules and regulations will be the most taxing part of our work. For a start we can work with the regulations of the WA but over time the member states will find their own regulations and make new and better laws.

Regarding the enforcement of those laws, that is still so far in the future that we don’t have precise plans for that. We will have to rely on force occasionally. I am sure of that, but if the court has enough backing even the most insane dictators and their generals are likely to surrender to its judgement. Especially if they have a fair and unbiased body solving a conflict.


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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:14 am

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Esteemed Leadership of Republic of Bohemoravia,

Thank you for your reply. I admit it was interesting, and certainly, it raises some valid concern. Yet, as old Nihonese saying says "there are no answers, only new questions". This should be our guiding thought in this area, as we explore this idea.

I actually understand idea of this being multi-national endeavour; however, in my opinion, WA should not enforce it's resolutions by force, tough nowhere am I commending genocide. But however when you claimed that nobody should be above the law, please reply me, what law? Who made this law? Who set it? Who watches over it? And why should sovereign nations recognize it?

If you will attempt to impose such law on countries, it will conflict them. It will very often conflict their interests or their own law/cultural tradition. Even if you set them up, what is the moral or legal basis on which the nations should adapt them?

In addition, as stated before, the problem with wars is that wars do not begin without reason and it is very often hard to tell who exactly is the bad side and who is good. Such situation happens often in ethnic conflicts where both sides slaughter each other equally. Actually in my own belief I believe that war if waged to reclaim lost territories of ensure stop of spreading of socialism is not a bad thing.

The red diamond (socialists, feminists, LGBT rights groups and ecologists) have accused me about being dictator many times. I must admit that my nation is not exactly most liberal one when it comes to social and cultural stance. I must say proudly that Nihonese put a trust in social and cultural conservatives for a good reason. In Nihon, we are building sovereign democracy, not liberal democracy. Nation does not has to be liberal to be democratic, keep that in mind.

Therefore, with assumption of all factors taken into consideration - I do not believe that such project does not have a chance to work.
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Postby New Mushroom Kingdom » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:40 pm

The New Mushroom Kingdom, as per standing law, considers itself outside the jurisdiction of any international court. We wish to see your opinion on this.
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Postby The Republic of Bohemoravia » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:57 am

I agree with your thoughts on the WA, however, throughout the years there have been so many gross violations of its rulings by member-states like the use of WMDs and wars of aggression, the killing of POWs and so on. These violations are what concerns us.

The law that we are thinking of at this moment does not exist while we speak. The law is to be made up by those nations wishing to work as international referees, national laws do not differ too much from each other on the most important fields. I am confident that experienced judges from the participating nations will be able to work out a set of rules and rulings which can be agreed upon. The court should also be considered like a living organism, rules and regulations will naturally grow through decisions made by the court to solve conflicts.

Yes, Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? That question is the most important one in my opinion. The first idea that comes to mind here is that the court needs at least three levels with judges form different nations on every level for every case. The rights to appeal must be enshrined in the court's own rules and so on. While the court should settle international disputes in a peaceful and civilized way, the nations participating in the court should have the jobs of controlling it. Just like the executive and judicative control each other on a national level.

The laws should not be set up to interfere too much with the internal rulings of individual states.

Ever too often wars are started without a reason or even without an excuse. Defending a nation against an outside thread would be acceptable in my opinion, but as I have stated before, Bohemoravia has no intention of presiding over this court or making it our tool. Whether an act of violence was justifiable or would be justifiable should better be decided by others not emotionally attached to that particular incident.

Regarding your internal policy, there are many nations just like you. We have good relations with Monarchies who do not interfere with other nations, and bad relations with democracies who finance terrorism. This is not intended to be a troyan horse to force Bohemoravian politics or values on other nations this is intended to be an institution to safe lives and diminish international war and conflict. It is, however intended to be a tool to bring down genocidal rulers.

Finally, with our attention to the Moshroom Kingdom, since no such body exists, you don't have to worry about it. If we make this dream come true you might want to join it and help us build it. You could than change your national laws. If you don't want to join than why worry?


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