In July 2015 Spain will time travel to the Middle Ages.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:42 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... expression

http://revolution-news.com/spanish-cong ... dark-ages/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... tests.html

Mariano Rajoy's administration, in its quest to send Spain back to the Dark Ages, has approved a series of very draconian laws and ammendements to the penal code, that essentially make protesting illegal. Not to mention, facilitate racial profiling of minorities and posting/tweeting photos that evidence police brutality a felony. Among a few other things.

For example, cyberactivism: disseminating news through social media of a protest can result in fines of up to 30.000€.

Photographing police misconduct can earn you jail time or fines ranging between 600€ to 30.000€. Appealing fines require the appellant to pay all judicial costs.

The wordings of the law has also been left vague. Subject to all kinds of interpretations by the court and the government.

Antiterrorism laws also leave subject to interpretation what is considered a "terrorist act". Which could be simply browsing a website that the govt suddenly feels caters to terrorists.

In essence, I feel "WTF Spain?". And this will all come in effect this coming July. The PP is screwing us up. Jeebus.

What say ye, NSG?

by **Kenora County** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:44 pm

does that mean spain will be taken over by muslims again?

by **Nuevo Meshiko** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:46 pm

Kenora County wrote:does that mean spain will be taken over by muslims again?

Wut? Are you purposefully being stupid?

by **Alyakia** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:46 pm

Photographing or recording police – 600 to 30.000€ fine.

lol i wonder why they want this law how weird

Peaceful disobedience to authority – 600 to 30.000€ fine.

y'what

For carrying out assemblies or meetings in public spaces – 100 to 600€ fine.

yeah they're not even pretending

by **Nuevo Meshiko** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:47 pm

Alyakia wrote:Photographing or recording police – 600 to 30.000€ fine.

lol i wonder why they want this law how weird

Peaceful disobedience to authority – 600 to 30.000€ fine.

y'what

For carrying out assemblies or meetings in public spaces – 100 to 600€ fine.

yeah they're not even pretending

It's fascism, for sure.

by **Idzequitch** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:47 pm

Uh, yeah, that's not okay. On the plus side, we no longer need to invent time machines. We can just adjust the policies of every nation to fit the Middle Ages and see how things go.
BTW, nice title Nana.

by **Vasileus** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:48 pm

Isn't spain a part of the ECHR? Wouldn't they strike this down immediately?

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:49 pm

Yeah this is fucking bullshit.

There is no way this could stand with the ECHR.

by **Mayor Stubbs the Cat of Alaska** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:49 pm

quick, resurrect the Sultan of the Moors.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:49 pm

Alyakia wrote:Photographing or recording police – 600 to 30.000€ fine.

lol i wonder why they want this law how weird

Peaceful disobedience to authority – 600 to 30.000€ fine.

y'what

For carrying out assemblies or meetings in public spaces – 100 to 600€ fine.

yeah they're not even pretending

Yup, they're hungry for revenue. But I must confess this worries me. Spain is missing entirely what democracy is. We have a right to tell the govt they're acting like fuckwits if they're acting like fuckwits.

by **Nuevo Meshiko** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:49 pm

Vasileus wrote:Isn't spain a part of the ECHR? Wouldn't they strike this down immediately?

One would hope so.

by **Dragonir** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:50 pm

things would be so much better if we had franco backback

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:50 pm

Vasileus wrote:Isn't spain a part of the ECHR? Wouldn't they strike this down immediately?

I surely hope so.

by **Val Halla** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:50 pm

Can't say I'm surprised. Stuff like ISIS is a good chance to oppress people "For safety". Best not let people have free though, it's scawwy.

by **Martean** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:50 pm

It's not only this new, gag law, but also the reform of the penal code (that will, for the first time since 1977) legalize life imprisoment. Also, relevant figures of the PP have appeared in television advocsting for limiting the freedom of expression

Esperanza Aguirre (Candidate for Madrid region with the PP): "I told Lara [the former CEO of one of the biggest media enterprises in Spain] not to give such coberture to Podemos"

And for example, yesterday Jesus Cintora, a journalist that is very critic towards the government, was fired because the government had talked with the CEO of mediaset Spain, Paolo Vasile.

Today we will change our clocks, at 2:00 AM will be 3:00 AM... Of 1939

by **Arcanda** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:51 pm

The EU will impose sanctions, I'm pretty sure of it.Bruxelles ruled that punishing children in France is wrong.So those laws? Won't go far.

by **Cabana** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:51 pm

Thats a fairly garbage and biased source using a clickbait title to garner more hits. What's the purpose of the image from Saw in the article?

by **Nuevo Meshiko** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:52 pm

They'll try again and again, though. Time to remove these people from office, Spain.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:53 pm

Martean wrote:It's not only this new, gag law, but also the reform of the penal code (that will, for the first time since 1977) legalize life imprisoment. Also, relevant figures of the PP have appeared in television advocsting for limiting the freedom of expression

Esperanza Aguirre (Candidate for Madrid region with the PP): "I told Lara [the former CEO of one of the biggest media enterprises in Spain] not to give such coberture to Podemos"

And for example, yesterday Jesus Cintora, a journalist that is very critic towards the government, was fired because the government had talked with the CEO of mediaset Spain, Paolo Vasile.

Today we will change our clocks, at 2:00 AM will be 3:00 AM... Of 1939

I supplied the link so people check it all out.

I guess we need to, as a country, smash our computers, harddrives and close down our FBs and Twitters. Heck, CTE on NS.

The vagueness of the wording in some of these amendments worries me.

by **Imperial Esplanade** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:53 pm

Mayor Stubbs the Cat of Alaska wrote:quick, resurrect the Sultan of the Moors.

by **Norstal** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:53 pm

Nuevo Meshiko wrote:
Kenora County wrote:does that mean spain will be taken over by muslims again?

Wut? Are you purposefully being stupid?

Should read books before accusing people of being stupid.

by **The Huskar Social Union** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:54 pm

Cabana wrote:Thats a fairly garbage and biased source using a clickbait title to garner more hits. What's the purpose of the image from Saw in the article?

Two reasons probably.

One: It shows a womans mouth being covered by a very harsh and crude torture device to silence her reflecting on how draconian these laws are to protesting and voicing your dissent with the government.

Two: It reflects on the title about it going back into the middle ages by showing a brutal torture device, and things like that were used an awful lot in Spain (and other countries) with things like the Spanish Inquisition.

At least that is what i gathered from it.

by **Nuevo Meshiko** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:55 pm

Norstal wrote:
Nuevo Meshiko wrote:Wut? Are you purposefully being stupid?

Should read books before accusing people of being stupid.

Should put things in context before questioning stupid. What do Muslims have to do with these fascist laws, exactly?

by **Martean** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:55 pm

Arcanda wrote:The EU will impose sanctions, I'm pretty sure of it.Bruxelles ruled that punishing children in France is wrong.So those laws? Won't go far.

The Socialist party has sent this law to the Contitutional court, but this won't go far as the president of the CC was affiliated to the ruling People's Party and most pf the judges there were appointed by the PP...

And the EU has already expressed their concerns about this law, and many others. But the EU has done little (not to say nothing) about the humans right situation in Hungary... So I hope in the next general election Podemos wins and expells the PP out of the government.

by **Nanatsu no Tsuki** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:55 pm

Cabana wrote:Thats a fairly garbage and biased source using a clickbait title to garner more hits. What's the purpose of the image from Saw in the article?

Its quite fitting, actually. Gag laws.

But for your rustled jimmies: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... tests.html

In July 2015 Spain will time travel to the Middle Ages.

In July 2015 Spain will time travel to the Middle Ages.

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