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[IDEA] More National Options

Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:43 pm

I realize these are far-fetched ideas, but if it would be possible to add more options to the national settings, it might give the game a bit more flavour.

In order of feasibility, from most to least:

1. National Anthem might be nice. Could be an unlockable field.
2. Set a sub-currency (as in, a fraction of whatever your currency is), kind of like dollars/cents.
3. Semi-autonomous parts of a nation. Seems really far-fetched, but there is already an issue that debates this very topic.

Restating my earlier point, I realize that these are far-off ideas, but some feedback would be nice.

EDIT: If this belongs in Gameplay, please move it there.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:51 pm

I'd love for NS to introduce something like a "Factbook". We could use this to customise our nations a lot more than the basic set-up allows, listing information such as national anthems, units of currency, or semi-autonomous divisions. Imagine if we had a Factbook feature, the possibilities would be endless!

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Postby Safraen » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:54 pm

The Dark Star Republic wrote:I'd love for NS to introduce something like a "Factbook". We could use this to customise our nations a lot more than the basic set-up allows, listing information such as national anthems, units of currency, or semi-autonomous divisions. Imagine if we had a Factbook feature, the possibilities would be endless!


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Postby Arcanda » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:54 pm

Those are some nice ideas.
Also, the possibility of modifying your minorities/enemies/NPCs who appear in issues.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:57 pm

Deian salazar wrote:I'd like it and iI like this idea, but I don't think they'll willingly put in more code, especially after just developing Rift and dealing with hardware problems.

I'd say try later sometime.

But this brings up strange things: How exactly to you list them as Autonomous? Are they Regions that are other nations? Or just names of parts in the nation?

Since there are limitless possibilities for Autonomous regions, I think that'd be too hard to implement. That'd also take new code, more than one option (Like currency option).

Still, for the other ideas. try again in 6 months or so, you have a very slight probability increase in this idea being accepted.

Giving parts of the nation different names, yes. Kind of like Yugoslavia in the 1990s, to reference RL.
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Postby Valloria » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:00 pm

The Dark Star Republic wrote:I'd love for NS to introduce something like a "Factbook". We could use this to customise our nations a lot more than the basic set-up allows, listing information such as national anthems, units of currency, or semi-autonomous divisions. Imagine if we had a Factbook feature, the possibilities would be endless!

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:01 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Giving parts of the nation different names, yes. Kind of like Yugoslavia in the 1990s, to reference RL.

We have Factbooks for that.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but I personally think Factbooks have us covered for that.


I know factbooks do a lot of the work, but they are sometimes overlooked.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:02 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:
I know factbooks do a lot of the work, but they are sometimes overlooked.

And why would it be our problem if they're overlooked?

I actually think that we should increase the amount of Factbooks you can have to 40.

How many are you allowed to have now?
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"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
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Postby New Lavan » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:25 pm

A national anthem would be nice, actually.
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Postby Todlichebujoku » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:27 pm

New Lavan wrote:A national anthem would be nice, actually.

Since most would involve music, the national anthem would either have to be linked to a music-playing website somehow or be uploaded to NS servers. Otherwise the anthem would just basically be a second motto.
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Postby Kemintiri of Kemet » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:14 am

Not going to happen. WAAAYYYY too much work involved for only marginal benefits at best.
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Postby The greater Vakolicci Haven » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:19 am

Kemintiri of Kemet wrote:Not going to happen. WAAAYYYY too much work involved for only marginal benefits at best.

Like demonyms, you mean?
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Postby Kemintiri of Kemet » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:25 am

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:
Kemintiri of Kemet wrote:Not going to happen. WAAAYYYY too much work involved for only marginal benefits at best.

Like demonyms, you mean?

Demonyms were at least a BIT useful...

But what do we put in National Anthem customisable field? YouTube link? Lyrics? Put name alone and it won't really solve much because not enough information...
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Postby The greater Vakolicci Haven » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:27 am

Kemintiri of Kemet wrote:
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:Like demonyms, you mean?

Demonyms were at least a BIT useful...

But what do we put in National Anthem customisable field? YouTube link? Lyrics? Put name alone and it won't really solve much because not enough information...

Youtube links could be nice, however I do think that this is better covered by dispatches than by customisable fields.

The sub-currency field, however, would be useful. As would one for stating your nations military name, especially with the amount of military issues that come up.
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Postby Kemintiri of Kemet » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:04 am

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:
Kemintiri of Kemet wrote:Demonyms were at least a BIT useful...

But what do we put in National Anthem customisable field? YouTube link? Lyrics? Put name alone and it won't really solve much because not enough information...

Youtube links could be nice, however I do think that this is better covered by dispatches than by customisable fields.

The sub-currency field, however, would be useful. As would one for stating your nations military name, especially with the amount of military issues that come up.

What are factbooks for then? :unsure:
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Postby The greater Vakolicci Haven » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:19 am

Kemintiri of Kemet wrote:
The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:
Youtube links could be nice, however I do think that this is better covered by dispatches than by customisable fields.

The sub-currency field, however, would be useful. As would one for stating your nations military name, especially with the amount of military issues that come up.

What are factbooks for then? :unsure:

This is more a problem about issues.

To quote an example, their's the issue involving people buying military medals of honour. This issue talks about something called the VAF (probably standing for 'Vakolicci armed forces.) The VAF does not exist; the Vakolicci armed forces are called the Vakolskrtm, so it makes sense for me to be able to write that into something like a custom field.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:15 am

The greater Vakolicci Haven wrote:
Kemintiri of Kemet wrote:What are factbooks for then? :unsure:

This is more a problem about issues.

To quote an example, their's the issue involving people buying military medals of honour. This issue talks about something called the VAF (probably standing for 'Vakolicci armed forces.) The VAF does not exist; the Vakolicci armed forces are called the Vakolskrtm, so it makes sense for me to be able to write that into something like a custom field.

That's true of everything, not just Armed Forces: some issues use "Congress" or "Parliament" when some nations' legislatures may be called the Senate or the Diet or the House of Commons; some issues talk about a "Minister of Foreign Affairs" when it may be the "Secretary of State"; some issues talk about the "National Health Service" when the state healthcare provider may have a completely different name. NS can't start accommodating to every particular individual preference: it's too complicated. But Factbooks allow customisation so that you can tell everyone else about the Vakolskrtm.


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