A Unified Korea?

[Bolnoa]

First and fore-most I am not pro nor anti-North Korean, I have a pretty neutral thought on the nation of said discussion.

Though earlier today a question was asked that got a lot of thoughts occurring and these thoughts I find to be troubling. Now if both of the Koreas were to be unified(IF is the key word) what would the nation be. Historically speaking we've had divided nations like Germany,Vietnam, and Yemen to name a few but the source that I keep finding is that if it were to be unified there is always either it'll be constant civilian warfare or it would a paradise...Often I don't seem to get an answer and usually a moved topic instead!

So I ask what is all of your guys' opinions on this question would it be as promising as oh...Lets say Vietnam(Perfect example unification actually as how it turned out) or would it be something far worse than it is now...All speak your thoughts!

[Kaztropol]

The people of North Korea have lived under that regime for so long, that in the event of a united Korea, it would take the better part of a century, to sort out the social issues.

Things like, children informing on their parents, because they are starving, and informants are rewarded with food. That sort of behaviour from the North's regime, means that the people of North Korea have little ability to understand and communicate with South Koreans about even very simple concepts such as family.

It would take several generations to integrate the populations.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

The important question is, how are they unified?

Does Kim Jong-Un reintroduce the Sunshine protocol and slowly make diplomatic overtures to the south while ramping down the xenophobic rhetoric until it becomes possible?

Does the north invade the south and somehow conquer it?

Does the south invade (or counter invade) the north and conquer it?

Does the northern government collapse and it's citizens beg the south to save them?

Each of these scenarios would produce a distinctly different Korea at the end.

[Arumdaum]

The important question is, how are they unified?

Does Kim Jong-Un reintroduce the Sunshine protocol and slowly make diplomatic overtures to the south while ramping down the xenophobic rhetoric until it becomes possible?

Does the north invade the south and somehow conquer it?

Does the south invade (or counter invade) the north and conquer it?

Does the northern government collapse and it's citizens beg the south to save them?

Each of these scenarios would produce a distinctly different Korea at the end.

The Sunshine Policy was a South Korean governmental policy pursued under liberal presidents. Not North Korean.

South Koreans furthermore aren't exactly considered foreigners in North Korea. Any xenophobic statements wouldn't really be about South Koreans.

Furthermore, North Korea won't invade the South. In the case of a governmental collapse, South Korea has an obligation to take control.

[Russels Orbiting Teapot]

The Sunshine Policy was a South Korean governmental policy pursued under liberal presidents. Not North Korean.

You're right and I misphrased it, but I assume that if the north agreed to start it up again (or proposed something similar) the south would pretty much automatically agree.

South Koreans furthermore aren't exactly considered foreigners in North Korea. Any xenophobic statements wouldn't really be about South Koreans.

A lot of people in the DPRK have reportedly gotten in very deep trouble for having or referring to any contact with the south. While there might not be xenophobia, the fear and the culture shock of it would be something.

Furthermore, North Korea won't invade the South. In the case of a governmental collapse, South Korea has an obligation to take control.

Well, that's good to know.

The North wouldn't invade under any circumstances? No matter how provoked they feel?

[Roski]

The Sunshine Policy was a South Korean governmental policy pursued under liberal presidents. Not North Korean.

You're right and I misphrased it, but I assume that if the north agreed to start it up again (or proposed something similar) the south would pretty much automatically agree.

South Koreans furthermore aren't exactly considered foreigners in North Korea. Any xenophobic statements wouldn't really be about South Koreans.

A lot of people in the DPRK have reportedly gotten in very deep trouble for having or referring to any contact with the south. While there might not be xenophobia, the fear and the culture shock of it would be something.

Furthermore, North Korea won't invade the South. In the case of a governmental collapse, South Korea has an obligation to take control.

Well, that's good to know.

The North wouldn't invade under any circumstances? No matter how provoked they feel?

They might talk a lot of shit, but Britian, France, Russia, China, South Korea, and the United States are fucking terrifying opponents.

[United Russian Soviet States]

It would be good to unify Korea under the South Korean flag.

[Geilinor]

It would be good to unify Korea under the South Korean flag.

That's probably what will happen, given that South Korea has over twice as many people.

[Scomagia]

Let's just focus on ending the war first.

[Greater Nevadian Empire]

I agree with URSS. If Korea were to be unified, it would most likely be under the S. Korean government. The North Korean government's stance on unification is that each Korea would retain their own system of government under a unified country. I don't see how that could work. Would the unified government be democratic, authoritarian, or would there be no unified government at all? I personally believe that the DPRK will exist for ten more years or so, when the people finally realize what has been going on and will try to overthrow the government (with or without American, Japanese, or South Korean intervention).

[Second Blazing]

First and fore-most I am not pro nor anti-North Korean, I have a pretty neutral thought on the nation of said discussion.

Though earlier today a question was asked that got a lot of thoughts occurring and these thoughts I find to be troubling. Now if both of the Koreas were to be unified(IF is the key word) what would the nation be. Historically speaking we've had divided nations like Germany,Vietnam, and Yemen to name a few but the source that I keep finding is that if it were to be unified there is always either it'll be constant civilian warfare or it would a paradise...Often I don't seem to get an answer and usually a moved topic instead!

So I ask what is all of your guys' opinions on this question would it be as promising as oh...Lets say Vietnam(Perfect example unification actually as how it turned out) or would it be something far worse than it is now...All speak your thoughts!

I would hardly call the Vietnamese unification as perfect example. Millions of people didn't get into boats and sail across the pacific for shits and giggles. Not to mentions the hundreds of thousands that died in re-education camps, were shot, or were worked to death.

[Ikania]

If it ever happens, it'll probably be more of a Germany style affair. Either the Northern government collapses and anarchy breaks out (unlikely) followed by South Korea annexing to keep the peace, or the North has a coup and requests reunification.

[Vashtanaraada]

Near impossible.

[Yokerin]

I don't think that they would reunify, maybe just a peace treaty to end the war. But it would cost the S. Korean economy billions of dollars to reform their economy, to give food to everyone, make jobs, infrastructure, and those kinds of things. The N. Koreans would be too brainwashed to ever think that S. Korean government is the best for them and would try to keep Kim Jong Un in power.

[Arumdaum]

The Sunshine Policy was a South Korean governmental policy pursued under liberal presidents. Not North Korean.

You're right and I misphrased it, but I assume that if the north agreed to start it up again (or proposed something similar) the south would pretty much automatically agree.

As a Southern policy, it's something for the South to propose. NK wants another Sunshine Policy; SK's current government is against it.

Furthermore, North Korea won't invade the South. In the case of a governmental collapse, South Korea has an obligation to take control.

Well, that's good to know.

The North wouldn't invade under any circumstances? No matter how provoked they feel?

Yeah. North Korea isn't stupid.

[Uawc]

I don't think Korea is ready to unify. Both Koreas (even Best Korea) are fucked in very different ways. In fact, I think it's better to keep them divided until they get their shit together.

As far as I'm concerned, one thing is certain: it won't be like the reunifications of the past.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm doubtful it'll ever happen, if one of the Kim's did take serious steps towards it I'd imagine the KPA would throw them out.

[Arumdaum]

I don't think Korea is ready to unify. Both Koreas (even Best Korea) are fucked in very different ways. In fact, I think it's better to keep them divided until they get their shit together.

As far as I'm concerned, one thing is certain: it won't be like the reunifications of the past.

What's going wrong in SK?

Also, what do you mean by different from the reunifications of the past? I mean, the last time Korea was divided was over a thousand years ago, so obviously. But what exactly?

[Arumdaum]

I'm doubtful it'll ever happen, if one of the Kim's did take serious steps towards it I'd imagine the KPA would throw them out.

Why do you think that?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm doubtful it'll ever happen, if one of the Kim's did take serious steps towards it I'd imagine the KPA would throw them out.

Why do you think that?

Because any serious unification of Korea would lead to the Songun policies disappearing and no one in the KPA top brass would like that. The KPA is the crux of North Korean society nowadays and I imagine they wouldn't take well to any attempts to change that.

[Arumdaum]

Let's just focus on ending the war first.

That doesn't exactly matter, considering that neither have ever recognized each other. SK never even signed the armistice.

[UED]

As a Korean, i know many people who are opposed to unification on grounds of how much money the South Koreans would have to pour in just to save the North. It would be like German Unification but ten times worst. At least East Germany was one of the richest of the Eastern Bloc, North Korea is the equivalent of a shit hole.

I do support unification but i would want a slow, gradual process rather than immediately uniting the 2 states into one.. I always thought the South should install a provisional government and slowly pour aid while preventing the North Koreans from leaving North Korea. Not cause i'm against desperate people trying to find work, but rather that South Koreans are (somewhat) douchey towards North Koreans (somewhat to the point of racism, idk how it works). That and the fact that Korea's GDP will collapse. Then there is the scenario where North Koreans go to china, which i fear will cause some future nationalism related war where a Korean government might declare war on China or something over "Ethnic Koreans being abused"

The last one is just my personal fear though.

[Arumdaum]

Why do you think that?

Because any serious unification of Korea would lead to the Songun policies disappearing and no one in the KPA top brass would like that. The KPA is the crux of North Korean society nowadays and I imagine they wouldn't take well to any attempts to change that.

NK's been going away from songun ever since Kim Jong-un took power.

[Olthar]

We'll sooner see Texas become a successful, independent country than see the Koreas unite.

[UED]

We'll sooner see Texas become a successful, independent country than see the Koreas unite.

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I wonder if any of us will live to see a Korean unification..