When criminals re-offend; arrest those who let them free?

[Novorobo]

This came to mind thinking about the Paris attack, and how those who let the attackers out of prison thought the attackers had changed their ways.

Clearly, they were wrong.

But rather than having mandatory life sentences for participation (or attempted participation) in terrorism or the like, would it be a suitable alternative that if someone who engages in such activity (or tries to) is let out of prison and re-offends, the people responsible for letting them out of prison get arrested and imprisoned themselves? As in, they let someone out at their own risk?

[New Aerios]

That would a great way to make sure every single person who goes to prison, no matter what crime they committed, stays in there until they die.

So no, it's a fucking stupid idea.

[Shilya]

That would just mean that no one's getting out anymore, because why would anyone take the risk and stand up for those they think are reformed, if the reward they'd get for it is risking to be imprisoned themselves?

[Lost heros]

How about no.

[Confederate Flower Power]

This came to mind thinking about the Paris attack, and how those who let the attackers out of prison thought the attackers had changed their ways.

Clearly, they were wrong.

But rather than having mandatory life sentences for participation (or attempted participation) in terrorism or the like, would it be a suitable alternative that if someone who engages in such activity (or tries to) is let out of prison and re-offends, the people responsible for letting them out of prison get arrested and imprisoned themselves? As in, they let someone out at their own risk?

Hell no!

[Risottia]

This came to mind thinking about the Paris attack, and how those who let the attackers out of prison thought the attackers had changed their ways.

Clearly, they were wrong.

But rather than having mandatory life sentences for participation (or attempted participation) in terrorism or the like, would it be a suitable alternative that if someone who engages in such activity (or tries to) is let out of prison and re-offends, the people responsible for letting them out of prison get arrested and imprisoned themselves? As in, they let someone out at their own risk?

No. Because
1) being wrong isn't necessarily a crime;
2) criminal responbility is personal;
3) the point of rehabilitation isn't being sure that the offender won't commit crimes anymore. Is being sure that the offender isn't more likely to commit new crimes than your average citizen - you can never have 100% .

[Sun Wukong]

You'd have to arrest the Bodhisattva Xuanzang.

So... yeah. Lock up the fucker. See how he likes it.

[Aggicificicerous]

You'd have to arrest the Bodhisattva Xuanzang.

So... yeah. Lock up the fucker. See how he likes it.

After everything he did for you?

[WestRedMaple]

That goes right back to my old proposal: parole is based on someone being willing to vouch for your behavior. Any crimes you commit while on parole result in identical sentences for both. That way, we're both held justly responsible.

Serious violent crimes should result in permanent probation if the criminal is ever released.

[Mick Swagger]

That's possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. And I post on /k/

[Infected Mushroom]

This came to mind thinking about the Paris attack, and how those who let the attackers out of prison thought the attackers had changed their ways.

Clearly, they were wrong.

But rather than having mandatory life sentences for participation (or attempted participation) in terrorism or the like, would it be a suitable alternative that if someone who engages in such activity (or tries to) is let out of prison and re-offends, the people responsible for letting them out of prison get arrested and imprisoned themselves? As in, they let someone out at their own risk?

this is a good idea

this way, less dangerous criminals get "rehabilitated" and then go on hurting others

the new victims should also have a right of action in negligence for compensation against those who certified the so-called rehabilitation

[Imperializt Russia]

What if the re-offending occurs for reasons wholly unrelated to their original offence?
Without omniscient precognisance, a parole officer would be completely unable to forsee that. As would literally anyone.

This is somehow a worse idea than the Three Strike system.

[New Aerios]

-snip-

this is a good idea

Welp, it's official. OP's idea is terrible. Show's over folks, we're finished here.

[Infected Mushroom]

What if the re-offending occurs for reasons wholly unrelated to their original offence?
Without omniscient precognisance, a parole officer would be completely unable to forsee that. As would literally anyone.

This is somehow a worse idea than the Three Strike system.

that's an issue of causation

which can be worked out by the courts

it all depends on how we draft the provisions, but there should be at least some accountability

[Risottia]

What if the re-offending occurs for reasons wholly unrelated to their original offence?
Without omniscient precognisance, a parole officer would be completely unable to forsee that. As would literally anyone.

This is somehow a worse idea than the Three Strike system.

Just jail everybody. Fair and safe, isn't it?

[Trevor Phillip Enterprises]

With OP's proposal no one would be willing to risk releasing criminals...

[The Joseon Dynasty]

It's like you sat down and tried to think of the worst possible policy idea.

[Infected Mushroom]

With OP's proposal no one would be willing to risk releasing criminals...

some people will still do it, if they are absolutely convinced the person wouldn't re-offend.

Which was supposed to be the whole point of rehabilitation anyways. This just provides extra incentive to think it over very very carefully before returning potentially very dangerous criminals back into society.

Its a social protection mechanism.

[Infected Mushroom]

It's like you sat down and tried to think of the worst possible policy idea.

No this is a brilliant idea.

Society will be so much safer now that the criminal law polices the rehabilitation system.

The accidental release of so-called ''rehabilitated'' criminals who then go on to re-offend and injure/kill others has just been reduced substantially.

[Confederate Flower Power]

That goes right back to my old proposal: parole is based on someone being willing to vouch for your behavior. Any crimes you commit while on parole result in identical sentences for both. That way, we're both held justly responsible.

Serious violent crimes should result in permanent probation if the criminal is ever released.

Why would you give identical sentences to both when they don't have identical responsibility? Only one of them actually made the decision to commit a crime.

[Northwest Slobovia]

To paraphrase an anonymous quip: I am returning this otherwise good thread to you because somebody scribbled gibberish on it and put your name in the left margin.

[Theo Roosevelt]

Hell yes. Someone who is qualified enough to be in charge of a psychopath should know if the nut fixed their ways. Their job determines life or death, you're damn right that we should be tough on them, they're not working retail.

[WestRedMaple]

That goes right back to my old proposal: parole is based on someone being willing to vouch for your behavior. Any crimes you commit while on parole result in identical sentences for both. That way, we're both held justly responsible.

Serious violent crimes should result in permanent probation if the criminal is ever released.

Why would you give identical sentences to both when they don't have identical responsibility? Only one of them actually made the decision to commit a crime.

Person A commits a crime, so they get the sentence. Person B volunteered to accept the same sentence as a condition of getting Person A out on parole instead of serving out their entire sentence.

They are both receiving the just results of their decisions.

[Margno]

How about taking the difference between the crime rate among youth who smoke marijuana or commit petty theft or vandalism and aren't arrested for it and the reoffense rare among youth arrested for those things, and arrest that many police officers for contributing to the delinquency of a minor?

[Theo Roosevelt]

How about taking the difference between the crime rate among youth who smoke marijuana or commit petty theft or vandalism and aren't arrested for it

I'm angry that they aren't arrested or strongly punished for stupid things like that. A criminal is a criminal.