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Dirtcrakia
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Postby Dirtcrakia » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:49 am

I have finally reached my dream nation. This was my goal when I started this nation almost 2 years ago. I want to celebrate my perfect nation. Do you want to share your success story?

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Postby Comrade Anders Blakewood » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:58 am

Dirtcrakia wrote:I have finally reached my dream nation. This was my goal when I started this nation almost 2 years ago. I want to celebrate my perfect nation. Do you want to share your success story?


I had close to my perfect nation, but then the recent changes happened, and I've got to answer some issues to get it back on track. It's Astalekon.

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Postby Comrade Anders Blakewood » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:58 am

Dirtcrakia wrote:I have finally reached my dream nation. This was my goal when I started this nation almost 2 years ago. I want to celebrate my perfect nation. Do you want to share your success story?


I had close to my perfect nation, but then the recent changes happened, and I've got to answer some issues to get it back on track. It's Astalekon.

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Postby Marelius » Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:44 am

Reached it three years ago. Had a perfect capitalist monarchy with just enough civil rights and political happenings. And the populace was healthy too.
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Postby Ragnarum » Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:46 am

Mine is perfect to my views around about now.
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Postby Transyl » Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:51 am

I am so close to having my perfect nation, I just need to increase government spending on defense though. Other than that, my nation is just wonderful, I have always been into Fascism. I believe that if you control how much freedom your people have, it will cause less problems in society and contain stability. Allot of people think thats a bunch of bull crap, but I think they're wrong. My nation truly does represent all of my political views, no matter how many people hate it I will always feel this way. A Dictatorship, doesn't always end up making a nation go into complete chaos. One leader means less room for error or misinterpretation/not understanding something fully. My nation, is completely perfect in my opinion. :3
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Postby Benjamin Henrikson » Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:57 am

I have Dremaur, which the problem is that my political rights have come up...
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Postby Corvus Corax » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:10 pm

Undoubtly Hunni Magorrea. Currently idling in The Valley of The Wind. Born to be what it is. There will never have anyting waiting legislation. Hunni is free to come and go if he wish to do so. Multiple times democratically elected delegate. If he dies, he will be resurrected. He never think anything so lame then founding a region.

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Postby Ragnarum » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:24 pm

Transyl wrote:I am so close to having my perfect nation, I just need to increase government spending on defense though. Other than that, my nation is just wonderful, I have always been into Fascism. I believe that if you control how much freedom your people have, it will cause less problems in society and contain stability. Allot of people think thats a bunch of bull crap, but I think they're wrong. My nation truly does represent all of my political views, no matter how many people hate it I will always feel this way. A Dictatorship, doesn't always end up making a nation go into complete chaos. One leader means less room for error or misinterpretation/not understanding something fully. My nation, is completely perfect in my opinion. :3


This bit, interesting.

I believe that if you control how much freedom your people have, it will cause less problems in society and contain stability


I have quite similar views, but think that peoples own personal lives should be left entirely up to them and they should be given as many civil rights as possible in those parameters. I believe political is totally different.
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Postby Dirtcrakia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:54 pm

I started as a extreme left communist dictatorship. Then I gradually reached democratic socialist status. Some how capitalism became less restrictive and I did have a "Good" economy. A couple months ago I had an economic crash for reasons I'm aware of. Still it is perfect to me, even with a "Reasonable" economy. It fits with my actual political beliefs. There is much difference between poor or rich. So I've in a sense eliminated classes. So Dirtcrakia is my perfect nation, despite it's silly name I wish I could change to something a bit more serious. I can't so I'll stick to it. Thanks for the responses; I didn't expect people to respond, I have tried making forum threads in the past and a lot don't go to well. When I use to play Roblox I was a forum king. My post would reach thousands view on some post. Maybe I can get my forum skills back with NS. :D

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Postby Dirtcrakia » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:01 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Transyl wrote:I am so close to having my perfect nation, I just need to increase government spending on defense though. Other than that, my nation is just wonderful, I have always been into Fascism. I believe that if you control how much freedom your people have, it will cause less problems in society and contain stability. Allot of people think thats a bunch of bull crap, but I think they're wrong. My nation truly does represent all of my political views, no matter how many people hate it I will always feel this way. A Dictatorship, doesn't always end up making a nation go into complete chaos. One leader means less room for error or misinterpretation/not understanding something fully. My nation, is completely perfect in my opinion. :3


This bit, interesting.

I believe that if you control how much freedom your people have, it will cause less problems in society and contain stability


I have quite similar views, but think that peoples own personal lives should be left entirely up to them and they should be given as many civil rights as possible in those parameters. I believe political is totally different.



-I actually disagree with you on the political aspect. Democracy is an important tenet in society. Without political say people wouldn't be able to reject unfair laws. Without democracy a government is bound to become corrupt and could easily take away civil rights. The people should always have a voice in government. In the US, I'm not sure what country you are from, people are becoming increasingly apolitical. This is dangerous. When the government does something that affects the lives of every day Americans, the people need a voice. With this political apathy of the 21st century the government has gone away with unneeded wars, unfair laws(patriot act for example), and straight up tyranny.The people need to be democratically involved to insure the future of the country. Power to the People! 8)

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Postby The New United States » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:42 pm

Well, this nation is almost a success story. I've just got to keep raising my HDI, environmental beauty and safety scores, while maintaining a wonderful economy and an extremely low flat tax rate (which I will completely eliminate, once I'm satisfied with all of my other stats).
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Postby Trevor Phillip Enterprises » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:45 pm

What about nations that strive to be broken, like mine?
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Postby Ragnarum » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:05 am

Dirtcrakia wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
This bit, interesting.



I have quite similar views, but think that peoples own personal lives should be left entirely up to them and they should be given as many civil rights as possible in those parameters. I believe political is totally different.



-I actually disagree with you on the political aspect. Democracy is an important tenet in society. Without political say people wouldn't be able to reject unfair laws. Without democracy a government is bound to become corrupt and could easily take away civil rights. The people should always have a voice in government. In the US, I'm not sure what country you are from, people are becoming increasingly apolitical. This is dangerous. When the government does something that affects the lives of every day Americans, the people need a voice. With this political apathy of the 21st century the government has gone away with unneeded wars, unfair laws(patriot act for example), and straight up tyranny.The people need to be democratically involved to insure the future of the country. Power to the People! 8)


Without political say people wouldn't be able to reject unfair laws


When did I say they couldn't? And who would determine what "unfair" is? There are plenty of unfair laws nobody gives a shit about.

Without democracy a government is bound to become corrupt and could easily take away civil rights


Political, probably. They have no reason to suddenly become social conservatives like you suggest (and like many others seem to as well).

In the US, I'm not sure what country you are from, people are becoming increasingly apolitical


I am from the UK, and that isn't exactly the case. However, what is becoming the case is that these so called "ordinary people" who are held so highly are becoming increasingly racist toward the right and increasingly fucking deluded further to the left; The left being more so of a problem in my opinion because people take the far left more seriously than they do the far right, despite being just as bad in many ways.

The people should always have a voice in government


Ordinary people are oftentimes fucking stupid when you give them power, I don't and would not trust them to run my life at all.

unfair laws(patriot act for example), and straight up tyranny


Is that it? Count yourself lucky you don't live in China.

the people need a voice


You do. Unless the government has a strict policy of surgically removing vocal chords.
The "voice" part is not the bit that concerns me at all, its the actual opinions of regular people and how surprisingly extreme they can suddenly become. Anyone can speak out in a Western country, its nothing special. Its those normal people who have a vote and hold those beliefs that are close to people and parties that are considered extreme, but not so much as to be called as bad as them, they are very sneaky, trust me.
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Postby Dirtcrakia » Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:30 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Dirtcrakia wrote:

-I actually disagree with you on the political aspect. Democracy is an important tenet in society. Without political say people wouldn't be able to reject unfair laws. Without democracy a government is bound to become corrupt and could easily take away civil rights. The people should always have a voice in government. In the US, I'm not sure what country you are from, people are becoming increasingly apolitical. This is dangerous. When the government does something that affects the lives of every day Americans, the people need a voice. With this political apathy of the 21st century the government has gone away with unneeded wars, unfair laws(patriot act for example), and straight up tyranny.The people need to be democratically involved to insure the future of the country. Power to the People! 8)


Without political say people wouldn't be able to reject unfair laws


When did I say they couldn't? And who would determine what "unfair" is? There are plenty of unfair laws nobody gives a shit about.

Without democracy a government is bound to become corrupt and could easily take away civil rights


Political, probably. They have no reason to suddenly become social conservatives like you suggest (and like many others seem to as well).

In the US, I'm not sure what country you are from, people are becoming increasingly apolitical


I am from the UK, and that isn't exactly the case. However, what is becoming the case is that these so called "ordinary people" who are held so highly are becoming increasingly racist toward the right and increasingly fucking deluded further to the left; The left being more so of a problem in my opinion because people take the far left more seriously than they do the far right, despite being just as bad in many ways.

The people should always have a voice in government


Ordinary people are oftentimes fucking stupid when you give them power, I don't and would not trust them to run my life at all.

unfair laws(patriot act for example), and straight up tyranny


Is that it? Count yourself lucky you don't live in China.

the people need a voice


You do. Unless the government has a strict policy of surgically removing vocal chords.
The "voice" part is not the bit that concerns me at all, its the actual opinions of regular people and how surprisingly extreme they can suddenly become. Anyone can speak out in a Western country, its nothing special. Its those normal people who have a vote and hold those beliefs that are close to people and parties that are considered extreme, but not so much as to be called as bad as them, they are very sneaky, trust me.


The point I am trying to make is if citizens don't have political power; the government can overuse their power. They will become more greedy and power hungry and civil rights will start to go away. Democracy secures our civil rights. The patriot act isn't as strict as laws in China, but that doesn't make it a problem. People in the US are big on our privacy, we don't want the government to have unauthorized access to our personal information. At the time people just blindly followed and trusted Bush on it, in the name of "fighting terrorism". This is why we need to have political freedom, laws like the patriot act threaten our civil rights. Without political freedom we are just getting a step closer to 1984. Have you read Orwell? 1984 shows how my argument is valid.

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Postby Ragnarum » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:54 am

Dirtcrakia wrote:They will become more greedy and power hungry and civil rights will start to go away.


That can easily be arranged to not happen. Like I say though, there is no reason for people to suddenly become socially repressive, if they are going to be corrupt then its all going to be financial, and that can be stopped easily too using a persistent leader. The only time people will begin taking civil rights away is when it fits their own beliefs (Nazi's killing off minorities etc). My beliefs are socially liberal.

Democracy secures our civil rights


No, it secures political rights, I'm arguing the need for them. Civil rights are voted on and take a long time to change for the better because of democracy.

People in the US are big on our privacy, we don't want the government to have unauthorized access to our personal information


Don't you? Some people could care less about people looking through their porn stash for bomb recipes if they are protected better.
Nobody looks through personal information of the innocent, they monitor potential threats. Pretty much anything to the contrary is usually tinfoil-hat nonsense

This is why we need to have political freedom


I would say political freedom is irrelevant to this matter.

Have you read Orwell? 1984 shows how my argument is valid


1984, as it happens is possibly the largest culprit of people lying about having read.

Democracies can be socially repressive, oftentimes more than dictatorships, which are simply politically repressive. The only difference in the democracy is that it shows that the vast majority of people have socially repressive beliefs and for said country as far as I am concerned, there is no hope for at least a few hundred years of becoming a normal country. The fact that democracies are able to become more socially repressive through economic and external factors could further reinforce my position, as if a dictatorship becomes socially liberal from the start and is carefully planned and maintained, this WILL NOT happen. Take Ragnarum as an example.
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Postby Nordic States and Territories » Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:47 pm

I fell my nation is pretty good, though it's far from my goals. We're pretty libertarian and stay out of our people's business though, and that means we don't really have a police force to speak of. The end result is that about 20% of my population kills eachother :I
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Postby Jatekia » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:40 am

A perfect country made by a former Roblox player... Yeah, sure. I might as well see Queen Victoria at the supermarket today...
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Postby The Flying Castle » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:15 pm

TFC still has a long way to go to become the technological powerhouse I want it to be, but so far haven't strayed too far away from that goal.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:23 pm

Congrats on becoming your perfect nation!

I hit my perfect nation (0% Political, 0% Civil, 100% Economy, for 100% badges), but then they rejiggered economy, I accidentally gave civil rights, and I haven't been arsed to fix it since.
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