14/Hitler House

[Alyakia]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30596951



no the other one

Dilemma for Austria over Hitler's birthplace

27 December 2014 Last updated at 23:46 GMT

The Austrian government is trying to work out what to do with the house in which Adolf Hitler was born.

For years the interior ministry has rented the property in the village of Braunau in order to prevent its misuse by neo-Nazis.

It used to be a day care centre for disabled people but is currently empty.

A Russian MP recently offered to buy the house to destroy it, the offer was rejected.

Bethany Bell visited Braunau to see the house.

well shit

what do you think we/they should do NSG?

i think it's good they rejected the guys offer, though it obviously makes sense that a russian guy really doesn't like hitler. i don't think it should be destroyed just because a bad guy was born there. then again, when you put it like that, i suppose i'm arguing it shouldn't be destroyed because a really famous bad guy was born there.

i would say turn it into a museum or something, but a daycare for the disabled is far too funny not to try and keep going. but yeah. please don't blow it up thanks.

e: i'm hoping we can have a discussion about the preservation of historically significant buildings and whether this counts as such and what to do with it specifically without being condescending and spoonfeeding but i don't want my thread locked because i didn't make it really really really really obvious why it's here. so yeah here it is.

[Laerod]

The house that the Nazis planned the holocaust in is now a permanent exhibit regarding that topic, so it seems like that's the perfect way to go.

[Manisdog]

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again, I think it is important not to forget history as those who forget history will repeat the mistakes again.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Maybe make it some kind of synagogue, or perhaps some sort of gay rights group could use it as a headquarters.

Maybe a synagogue for gay jews.

[Imperializt Russia]

I love the Star of David Christmas lights they strung up outside it.

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again, I think it is important not to forget history as those who forget history will repeat the mistakes again.

Can't go five minutes, can you.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again, I think it is important not to forget history as those who forget history will repeat the mistakes again.

Yeah, India does a lot to avoid admitting the long history of its unprecedented rape epidemic and grueling poverty, and denial of basic rights to many minorities. Really spitting on Gandhi's grave. Though considering he was an antisemite, this is perhaps not entirely accurate.

[Imperializt Russia]

Maybe make it some kind of synagogue, or perhaps some sort of gay rights group could use it as a headquarters.

Maybe a synagogue for gay jews.

Black handicapped gay Jewish gypsies?

[Manisdog]

I love the Star of David Christmas lights they strung up outside it.

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again, I think it is important not to forget history as those who forget history will repeat the mistakes again.

Can't go five minutes, can you.

If you have no argument, than why can't you

[Imperializt Russia]

I love the Star of David Christmas lights they strung up outside it.
Can't go five minutes, can you.

If you have no argument, than why can't you

It wasn't even relevant to the thread. Like, at all.
Yet you still had to bring it up.

I came for the OP.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Maybe make it some kind of synagogue, or perhaps some sort of gay rights group could use it as a headquarters.

Maybe a synagogue for gay jews.

Black handicapped gay Jewish gypsies?

Headquarters of the Austrian Comminist Party?

[Manisdog]

If you have no argument, than why can't you

It wasn't even relevant to the thread. Like, at all.
Yet you still had to bring it up.

I came for the OP.

Ok so the relevant part, you might learn from it


IF YOU FORGET HISTORY YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT ITS MISTAKES AGAIN !!

blowing up that house is like forgetting history

[Imperializt Russia]

It wasn't even relevant to the thread. Like, at all.
Yet you still had to bring it up.

I came for the OP.

Ok so the relevant part, you might learn from it


IF YOU FORGET HISTORY YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT ITS MISTAKES AGAIN !!

blowing up that house is like forgetting history

Now, why couldn't you have just left it at that?

This bit:

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again

Just not necessary.

[The Nuclear Fist]

It wasn't even relevant to the thread. Like, at all.
Yet you still had to bring it up.

I came for the OP.

Ok so the relevant part, you might learn from it


IF YOU FORGET HISTORY YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT ITS MISTAKES AGAIN !!

blowing up that house is like forgetting history

You'd have to be pretty ignorant to think anyone in the West is even remotely at risk of forgetting Hitler and his shenanigans.

[Manisdog]

Ok so the relevant part, you might learn from it


IF YOU FORGET HISTORY YOU ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT ITS MISTAKES AGAIN !!

blowing up that house is like forgetting history

Now, why couldn't you have just left it at that?

This bit:

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again

Just not necessary.

It is that, an MP from that country wants to blow that house up, what is wrong with you ?

[Lordieth]

I really don't think people are going to forget the atrocities committed by Hitler if they demolish the house. I say turn it into rubble, and build a little park over it. No matter what you put there, it will always be where Hitler was born, but at least the house will be gone.

Surprised nobody tried burning it down, to be honest. People are too restrained.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

A museum, obviously. The man who put the living fear of God in all of the world back in his day deserves his own museum, as do his deeds and misdeeds.

As for "misuse" by Neo-Nazis, I fail to see how a bunch of Nazi wannabe clowns could possibly "misuse" it, much less how that misuse could be dangerous to society. All the real Nazis are dead or about to die within the next decade, street thugs who have appropriated their symbols and ideas being little more than a nuisance. They can't even agree upon basic ideological tenets among themselves, let alone be serious political contenders.

"Learning from history" to avoid past mistakes is a futile effort, though. The only thing that can be learned from history is that humans have never learned from history. The same mistakes are bound to be repeated as the events from which lessons are supposed to be drawn fade from living memory.

[Tagmatium]

The house that the Nazis planned the holocaust in is now a permanent exhibit regarding that topic, so it seems like that's the perfect way to go.

Surely this is the best way to go.

Unlike another country that tries to forget and distort history and thus commits the same crimes again, I think it is important not to forget history as those who forget history will repeat the mistakes again.

Herpaderp!

[The Nuclear Fist]

I really don't think people are going to forget the atrocities committed by Hitler if they demolish the house. I say turn it into rubble, and build a little park over it. No matter what you put there, it will always be where Hitler was born, but at least the house will be gone.

Surprised nobody tried burning it down, to be honest. People are too restrained.

I feel like it would be wrong to demolish it. The house is a cultural artifact, an aspect of very important and very ugly part of history.

[Imperializt Russia]

I really don't think people are going to forget the atrocities committed by Hitler if they demolish the house. I say turn it into rubble, and build a little park over it. No matter what you put there, it will always be where Hitler was born, but at least the house will be gone.

Surprised nobody tried burning it down, to be honest. People are too restrained.

I feel like it would be wrong to demolish it. The house is a cultural artifact, an aspect of very important and very ugly part of history.

To be honest, I was sad when I realised the Sarajevo Roses were being concreted over. Think I should go before they finish up that.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The house that the Nazis planned the holocaust in is now a permanent exhibit regarding that topic, so it seems like that's the perfect way to go.

I agree with this. Turn it into a museum/memorial.

[The Nuclear Fist]

I feel like it would be wrong to demolish it. The house is a cultural artifact, an aspect of very important and very ugly part of history.

To be honest, I was sad when I realised the Sarajevo Roses were being concreted over. Think I should go before they finish up that.

I can understand that somewhat, just because they are gouges in roads and could present a road hazard. But I think it would be best if they preserved at least some of them in a museum.

[Olerand]

Make it a Holocaust museum. With a separate section for all of Hitler's favorite peoples.

[L Ron Cupboard]

I like the six pointed star lights hanging from it. Are those Christmas lights or a permanent Star of David?

I would turn it into an old people's home.

[Contemporary Tamriel]

Black handicapped gay Jewish gypsies?

Headquarters of the Austrian Comminist Party?

Summing it up: Synagouge for Black handicapped gay Jewish gypsies who are apparently, communist. Pictures of Stalin, Lenin on the homes. Commie murals too.

[Lordieth]

I really don't think people are going to forget the atrocities committed by Hitler if they demolish the house. I say turn it into rubble, and build a little park over it. No matter what you put there, it will always be where Hitler was born, but at least the house will be gone.

Surprised nobody tried burning it down, to be honest. People are too restrained.

I feel like it would be wrong to demolish it. The house is a cultural artifact, an aspect of very important and very ugly part of history.

I see what you're saying, but it must be a sore point for a lot of people, too.