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Another mass kidnapping by Boko Haram

Postby Benuty » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:13 am

Boko Haram unrest: Nigerian militants 'kidnap 200 villagers'

Militants have stormed a remote village in north-eastern Nigeria, killing at least 33 people and kidnapping about 200, a survivor has told the BBC.

He said that suspected Boko Haram militants had seized young men, women and children from Gumsuri village.

The attack happened on Sunday but news has only just emerged, after survivors reached the city of Maiduguri.

Meanwhile, Cameroon's army says it has killed 116 Nigerian militants who had attacked one of its bases, AFP reports.

“After killing our youths, the insurgents have taken away our wives and daughters”

The state of Borno has seen at least two militant attacks over the past few days.

Residents told the BBC that armed militants attacked the border town of Amchide on Wednesday, arriving in two vehicles with many others on foot.

They raided the market area, setting fire to shops and more than 50 houses.

No group has said it carried out either attack but officials have blamed Boko Haram militants.

More than 2,000 people have been killed in militant violence this year alone, mostly in north-eastern Nigeria, near the border with Cameroon.

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This is yet another abduction on a staggering scale - one of the worst since the Chibok girls were seized in April.

It might seem surprising that it has taken four days for news of the killings and abductions to break.

That points to just how dangerous that area of north-east Nigeria still is despite promises of a massive military deployment there.

Gumsuri is about 70km (43 miles) from Maiduguri, the state capital, but survivors had to travel hundreds of kilometres via a circuitous route to avoid areas overrun with jihadists in order to reach the city and alert people to the horrors they had witnessed.

The vigilantes in the same village had reportedly fought off Boko Haram before but this time they were overpowered.

There has been no word from the military or the government and you have to wonder whether in any other country in the world such a horrific event could take place without a single word from the authorities.

The villagers who were kidnapped on Sunday were from Gumsuri, not Bintiri, as was earlier reported by the BBC.

The survivor of the Gumsuri attack said that he returned to the village and helped bury 33 bodies after the violence.

He said he went from house-to-house to ascertain how many people were missing.

While initial reports put the number of kidnapped at 100, it was actually double that, the survivor said.

His testimony was confirmed to BBC Hausa by a local official. Neither person wanted their names published.

Meanwhile, Reuters and AFP news agencies quoted residents as saying that at least 185 people had been abducted.

'Wives and daughters' taken
A vigilante group that had protected the village from previous attacks was overpowered by the militants, AFP reported.

"After killing our youths, the insurgents have taken away our wives and daughters," a resident who fled to Maiduguri was quoted as saying.

In Cameroon, the army said vehicles from its elite battalion had been caught in an ambush on Wednesday.

"At the same time... the Amchide military base was attacked by hundreds of fighters from the sect, but the response from our defence forces was instant and appropriate," the army said, according to AFP.

One Cameroonian soldier was killed and an officer is missing, it added.

Who are Boko Haram?

1)Founded in 2002
2)Initially focused on opposing Western education - Boko Haram means "Western education is forbidden" in the Hausa language
3)Launched military operations in 2009 to create an Islamic state
4)Thousands killed, mostly in north-eastern Nigeria - also attacked police and UN headquarters in the capital, Abuja
5)Some three million people are affected
6)Declared a terrorist group by the US in 2013

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On Wednesday a Nigerian court martial handed down death sentences to 54 soldiers who had refused to take part in an operation last August to recapture three towns overrun by the militants.

The soldiers, who were found guilty of mutiny, had complained that they did not have the weapons needed to take on the jihadists.

The soldiers appeared before a court martial in Abuja
Boko Haram has been waging an insurgency since 2009 and is seeking to create an Islamic state in north-eastern Nigeria.

Attacks have increased since three states - Borno, Adamawa and Yobe - were put under emergency rule more than 18 months ago.

The kidnapping of more than 200 schoolgirls from the town of Chibok in Borno state in April sparked international outrage.

Despite military assistance from countries such as China, France, the UK and the US, the girls have not yet been rescued.


Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30529178

Opinion: Honestly given the constant activity by this disgrace to humanity. You would think we would already have a megathread. I suppose it slipped moderation's list of important reminders to do so. Either way, as Nigeria struggles to contain this I just hope their next government steps up from the rather snail like approach by "Goodluck" Johnathan. So what say you oh NSG's unleavened, and leavened masses?
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In my language; "bok" simply means "shit". Suits them perfect.
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Postby Burleson 2 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:18 am

Gezi Park wrote:In my language; "bok" simply means "shit". Suits them perfect.

What language is that?
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Burleson 2 wrote:
Gezi Park wrote:In my language; "bok" simply means "shit". Suits them perfect.

What language is that?


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Postby Friesland Confederancy » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:19 am

what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:20 am

Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.

Then explain why Senegal is so successful?
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Postby Condunum » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:21 am

Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.

Ah yes, the racism comes quick.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:26 am

Benuty wrote:
Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.

Then explain why Senegal is so successful?

It isn't that successful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal#Sharia_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Low_human_development
http://www.unesco.org/eri/cp/factsheets_ed/SN_EDFactSheet.pdf
You could have said Ghana or Botswana, I don't know why you didn't.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:28 am

Geilinor wrote:
Benuty wrote:Then explain why Senegal is so successful?

It isn't that successful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal#Sharia_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index#Low_human_development
http://www.unesco.org/eri/cp/factsheets_ed/SN_EDFactSheet.pdf
You could have said Ghana or Botswana, I don't know why you didn't.

I should have specifically stated their AIDs program ( a lot more successful than other nations).

Of-course the media typically glosses over everything else conveniently.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:29 am

Nevertheless the racist trying to threadjack is adorable, and should probably get off the Libraries computer to go back to class now.
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Postby Rio Cana » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:31 am

The problem is that it seems that that area, which is located in the North, has no oil so the government is dragging its feet. Northern Nigeria is Islamic while the South of Nigeria is not. But when the South, Biafra, wanted to separate from Islamic Nigeria they sent the entire military to crush it. So why do then not do the same thing today in the North. I forgot to mention that Biafra is where Nigeria gets its oil.
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Postby Lordieth » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:32 am

As much an indictment on the continued failure of the government to take them down, as it is an indictment of Boko Haram themselves.
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Rio Cana wrote:The problem is that it seems that that area, which is located in the North, has no oil so the government is dragging its feet. Northern Nigeria is Islamic while the South of Nigeria is not. But when the South, Biafra, wanted to separate from Islamic Nigeria they sent the entire military to crush it. So why do then not do the same thing today in the North. I forgot to mention that Biafra is where Nigeria gets its oil.

I don't know how they're going to crush Boko Haram's tactics. Biafra was a state trying to break away and so sending the military did the job.
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Geilinor wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:The problem is that it seems that that area, which is located in the North, has no oil so the government is dragging its feet. Northern Nigeria is Islamic while the South of Nigeria is not. But when the South, Biafra, wanted to separate from Islamic Nigeria they sent the entire military to crush it. So why do then not do the same thing today in the North. I forgot to mention that Biafra is where Nigeria gets its oil.

I don't know how they're going to crush Boko Haram's tactics. Biafra was a state trying to break away and so sending the military did the job.


That's the point, If they managed to crush a major rebellion why cannot they defeat this small group of fighters. Cameroon has better tactics against them. A thin long thin strip of Northern Cameroon borders Nigeria. One thing, unlike Nigeria, Cameroon has ties and is dependent on the French military. Could explain why the West looks the other way when it comes to there President who has managed to stay in power for many years.

Found this. Seems a five nation military force is being set up to fight this group.

http://www.cameroonjournal.com/cameroon ... hin-weeks/
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Rio Cana wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I don't know how they're going to crush Boko Haram's tactics. Biafra was a state trying to break away and so sending the military did the job.


That's the point, If they managed to crush a major rebellion why cannot they defeat this small group of fighters.

Because they're guerilla fighters. If the US managed to crush Imperial Japan why couldn't they defeat the Vietcong or the Taliban?
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Postby Fortschritte » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:50 am

For fucks sake, again? Boko Haram and other similar groups both deeply sadden be and piss me off to a great extent. Boko Haram has committed grotesque, heinous crimes, and I feel horrible for the Nigerian people who have to put up with them.
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Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.


Your lack of empathy and racism isn't appreciated.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:53 am

Fortschritte wrote:For fucks sake, again? Boko Haram and other similar groups both deeply sadden be and piss me off to a great extent. Boko Haram has committed grotesque, heinous crimes, and I feel horrible for the Nigerian people who have to put up with them.

Seconded, i wish Boko Haram and other similar groups would just fuck off and stop ruining peoples lives.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:55 am

I hope that the UN will organize a mercenary army that will deal with scum like these on a global basis.
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Postby Sereina » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:58 am

Benuty wrote:
Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
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Then explain why Senegal is so successful?

Although Senegal has a more stable economy, poverty and unemployment is very widespread.
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Postby Manisdog » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:02 pm

Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.

Well if you wanted to be let me say this in a polite way insensitive, than why did you care to post ?

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Benuty wrote:
Friesland Confederancy wrote:what happens in Africa.....
will still happen in Africa. best to stop caring.

Then explain why Senegal is so successful?


You know, as much as I don't like the 'durr Africa dum dum' arguments. It is the first time I've heard 'Senegal' and 'Successful' in the same sentence. You got better regional examples. Far better even.
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Postby Manisdog » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:04 pm

I understand in Europe, Africa and Asia are propobaly looked at with contempt but that is not the topic of this thread can we discuss this some other day ?

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Postby Scomagia » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:10 pm

Nigeria's neighbors really ought to help them combat these jackasses.
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Postby Al Nahar » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:28 pm

There are two problems, one being the most obvious that is the Islamist Fundamentalism and Boko Haram in Nigeria. The other is the inability of the Nigerian government and army to successfully defeat this garbage. They need to go through some changes if they want to see these thugs dead forever. Corruption, Military reorganization, ect...lets face it the majority not ALL of African armies are ineffective, lets not even begin with their counter-insurgency tactics.
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