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Who do you support in the quest of the North Pole?

Russia
9
11%
USA
18
23%
Norway
5
6%
Denmark
10
13%
Canada
10
13%
I couldn't care less about the North Pole's owner
28
35%
 
Total votes : 80

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Denmark Claims the North Pole

Postby The Wolven League » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:39 pm

"Competition in the Arctic is heating up as Denmark has laid claim to the North Pole.

Copenhagen is citing scientific data showing Greenland, which is an autonomous country within Denmark, sits atop a continental shelf connected to a ridge beneath the Arctic Circle. Danish Foreign Minister Martin Lidegaard said this new information provides the country with a claim to the region and, more critically, the energy resources thought to be in the Arctic, the Associated Press reports.

Lidegaard said Denmark will take its claim to the UN for an eventual decision on the control of the area.

"This is a historical milestone for Denmark and many others as the area has an impact on the lives of lot of people. After the UN panel had taken a decision based on scientific data, comes a political process," Lidegaard told the AP on Friday. "I expect this to take some time. An answer will come in a few decades."

The US currently estimates that the Arctic sea bed could contain 15% of the earth's remaining oil, along with 30% of the planet's natural gas and 20% of its liquefied natural gas. Whichever country is able to successfully claim the Arctic would have the right to extract these resources." ~MSN http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/Den ... sinsider11

So what do you guys think of this? Personally, I wish Norway would get control of it, as it is one of five countries (US, Russia, Norway, Denmark, and Canada) who have laid claim to part of it but apparently that won't happen :(
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Postby Digital Planets » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:40 pm

Oh, so we can just claim that we own something?


I call South Pole, then.
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Postby The Sons of Adam » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:40 pm

The Wolven League wrote:"Competition in the Arctic is heating up as Denmark has laid claim to the North Pole.

Copenhagen is citing scientific data showing Greenland, which is an autonomous country within Denmark, sits atop a continental shelf connected to a ridge beneath the Arctic Circle. Danish Foreign Minister Martin Lidegaard said this new information provides the country with a claim to the region and, more critically, the energy resources thought to be in the Arctic, the Associated Press reports.

Lidegaard said Denmark will take its claim to the UN for an eventual decision on the control of the area.

"This is a historical milestone for Denmark and many others as the area has an impact on the lives of lot of people. After the UN panel had taken a decision based on scientific data, comes a political process," Lidegaard told the AP on Friday. "I expect this to take some time. An answer will come in a few decades."

The US currently estimates that the Arctic sea bed could contain 15% of the earth's remaining oil, along with 30% of the planet's natural gas and 20% of its liquefied natural gas. Whichever country is able to successfully claim the Arctic would have the right to extract these resources."

So what do you guys think of this? Personally, I wish Norway would get control of it, as it is one of five countries (US, Russia, Norway, Denmark, and Canada) who have laid claim to part of it but apparently that won't happen :(

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Postby The balkens » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:41 pm

i mean, they do own Greenland right?

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:41 pm

Until science proves one way or another who has the best claim, these nations all should cut the rhetoric.

Op, why do you wish Norway would get it?
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Postby Romalae » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:42 pm

There was no source provided, which is problematic.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:43 pm

Digital Planets wrote:Oh, so we can just claim that we own something?


I call South Pole, then.

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Postby Kirav » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:43 pm

I don't know why they would bother, seeing as they're moving fairly quickly towards cutting Greenland loose. Why claim continental shelf that you're planning on giving up in a few decades?

Unless of course, the Danish government has changed direction on that. I don't follow Danish politics all too closely.

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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:44 pm

Didn't the Russians already claim it a few years back?

Denmark better be ready to send someone ready to wrestle Putin naked on the ice shelf. That's the only way to settle this dispute. *nodnod*
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Postby Emerald-Springs » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:45 pm

Was already owning the magnetic North Pole not enough for them? Greedy little Dänemark.

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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:46 pm

Romalae wrote:There was no source provided, which is problematic.

Fixed
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Postby Harrisvile » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:46 pm

Didn't the nations of the world sign a treaty that the North Pole couldn't be claimed, and belonged to everybody?

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:46 pm

Harrisvile wrote:Didn't the nations of the world sign a treaty that the North Pole couldn't be claimed, and belonged to everybody?


That's Antarctica if I'm not mistaken.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:47 pm

Emerald-Springs wrote:Was already owning the magnetic North Pole not enough for them? Greedy little Dänemark.

Poles: gotta catch 'em all!
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Postby The Lotophagi » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:47 pm

Kirav wrote:I don't know why they would bother, seeing as they're moving fairly quickly towards cutting Greenland loose. Why claim continental shelf that you're planning on giving up in a few decades?

Unless of course, the Danish government has changed direction on that. I don't follow Danish politics all too closely.


I read another article that speculated that this was a way to try and encourage the Greenlanders to stay with Denmark by publicly pressing their claim on all that oil wealth. Sort of a 'Hey, if you stay with us, we'll make sure you get that nice slice of the pie that you probably wouldn't get if you were on your own' type of thing.

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Postby Trevor Phillip Enterprises » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:47 pm

Santa will not be amused ... he might not give the children of Denmark any christmas presents if they keep this up.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:47 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Emerald-Springs wrote:Was already owning the magnetic North Pole not enough for them? Greedy little Dänemark.

Poles: gotta catch 'em all!

Or exterminate 85% of them like in Generalplan Ost.
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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:48 pm

The balkens wrote:i mean, they do own Greenland right?

Greenland is a client state of Denmark; they are independent but have no diplomatic or millitarial freedom whatsoever. Denmark must also protect them if they go to war or break the treaty.
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Postby Opplandia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:48 pm

ah yeah, they say the North Pole belongs to them, only because they administer greenland? which may have a connection to it? heh and here I thought that Erdogan was responsible for That kind of stuff. I hope for them this isnt serious, otherwise they will ruin themselves.
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Postby Nervium » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:49 pm

Seems the Danes are honoring their old ways. :p
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Postby The Lotophagi » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:49 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Harrisvile wrote:Didn't the nations of the world sign a treaty that the North Pole couldn't be claimed, and belonged to everybody?


That's Antarctica if I'm not mistaken.


And good luck with keeping that treaty intact past 2041 once all that sweet, sweet mineral wealth starts being uncovered by the melting ice caps.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:49 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:Santa will not be amused ... he might not give the children of Denmark any christmas presents if they keep this up.


We all know Santa is Canadian. Santa's postal code - which is legitimately used in Canada by Canada Post - is H0H 0H0!!!
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Postby The Wolven League » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:50 pm

Nervium wrote:Seems the Danes are honoring their old ways. :p

Better than the modern ways imo.
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Postby Emerald-Springs » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:50 pm

Harrisvile wrote:Didn't the nations of the world sign a treaty that the North Pole couldn't be claimed, and belonged to everybody?


There's a treaty by which many/most nations have agreed not to recognise, militarise, and develop claims to Antarctica. However, several of the nations who signed it do administer territories in Antarctica, all of which include the South Pole as their southernmost point.

The only instrument of international law restricting claims to the North Pole would be the UN Law of the Sea, which Denmark appears to be using as the basis for their claim.

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