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Guns of Our Forefathers³: Reborn (OOC/Worldbuilding)

Postby Kryskov » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:50 pm

Hello, and welcome to the Guns of Our Forefathers planning thread! This thread is to plan the long-anticipated third installment of Guns of Our Forefathers! Please, if you feel like you want to participate in this RP, stop by, express your interest, and help us build a truly great world and system.

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ANTICTIPATED QUESTIONS:

What is Guns of Our Forefathers?
Guns of Our Forefathers (GOOF for short) is a series of 18th century alternate-history RP's in which players create and maintain their own empires, within the realm of plausibility, and interact with the leaders of other nations as the world collectively struggles through world wars, colonialism, and the changing social landscape due to the Enlightenment. Please, feel free to check out previous incarnations, GOOF I and GOOF II, for more background.

When will GOOF 3 take place?
The current idea is that GOOF will start on January 1, 1700, making it the earliest of the GOOF RPs yet.

Will previous nations/canon be considered or preferred?
In short, no. Since GOOF 3 takes place earlier, previous nations from GOOF I and GOOF II will not be returning as-is. However, there are no limits if people returning from GOOF I or II make a nation similar to their previous one.

Worldbuilding?
Yes. This thread is going to act as an interest/applications thread, which will make peer review of apps easier and make it simpler for new players to see what is open or needed. Additionally, we will aim to build a concrete sense of how international relations and colonization work and their respective starting conditions at the beginning of the RP.

What are the rules?
Generally, the rules will be similar to the rules of previous incarnations. HOWEVER, I am giving the players a great say in how they want this RP to go. For instance, what is the point-of-divergence? What are the major cities? Who are the ruling dynasties? That is yet another goal of this thread, to organize the "physics" of the RP world.

Is this a faction or character RP?
It's a mostly faction RP. However, since most of the countries are monarchies, expect to take a good amount of time developing the intricate details of your royal families. Interact with other families. Don't be afraid to take a Crusader Kings 2 approach to affairs.

Is there magic?
No, there is no fantasy whatsoever. I bring this up because this has become something of a flashpoint in the past. I discourage people who have a strong need for fantasy/magic from applying, as I doubt this is the RP for you.

Other questions?
Feel free to ask! And I strongly encourage you to propose possible solutions to the questions that may stump us.

What is the best way to contact the OP?
TG'ing me will surely give you a response. I can't guarantee that I will see a question posted in this thread.

ATTN: APPS ARE NOW OPEN!
If you want to discuss the feasibility of some possible nations, feel free to. Informal reservations may suggest to others your areas of interest, but they do not guarantee anything. Once an application form is finished and ready to be accepted, it will be posted as soon as possible. Formal reservations last for 48 hours. If you do not apply in those 48 hours, your reservation is removed.

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[b]APPLICATION[/b]
Nation Name:
Capital City:
Claimed Territory: (preferably a map or specific territory)
Population:
National Flag: (put in spoiler)

Head of State:
Head of Government: (if applicable)
Government Type:
National Ideologies: (Free Trade? Democracy? Slavophilia? etc.)
History: (put in spoiler)
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:59 pm

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Land claimed: This
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:03 pm

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:06 pm

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Land claimed: http://i.imgur.com/0gaNoMV.png (India and Ingria are negotiable.)
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:09 pm

I'm on a glitchy get IPad

Reserve Iberian Peninsula and morocco, Northen Argentina, Urugauy, smudges of Indonesia, Tip of South Africa.
I'm really tired

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:11 pm

Tempt by Great Russia.

That said, merely keeping an eye on this for the meantime.
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Postby Caltarania » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:15 pm

So, if I can bring some stuff up, I want to post my ideas for Swedish history.

Some PoDs I thought of:

1) Gustavus Adolphus doesn't die in the battle of Battle of Lützen.
2) Christina doesn't convert to Roman Catholicism.
3) Both of the above.

Basically, my ideas are that after he survives the battle and wins the war, he claims the title of HR Emperor, but the HRE basically dissolves as he is quite lenient on the German states. After his death, any sense of a united HRE is gone, but the Swedish Monarchs continue to hold the title "Holy Roman Emperor". Combined with Christina not converting, and becoming a fervent colonizing Queen who orders the establishment of Nya Sverige, Askamark and the Virgin Islands. Etc, etc. Basically, House Vasa stay in power in Sweden and continue to lead it to glory, with either no Great Northern War or no Swedish defeat in it.
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Postby Kamchatkalia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:17 pm

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Land claimed: Linky
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Garwall wrote:
Neros wrote:I can just imagine the trouble Russia went through to colonize Colombia back in the day. Those cold-hardened peoples being sent to the tropics, all for the Motherland. Must have been worse than what the Spanish went through.


I feel worse for the natives. Seeing a bunch of ass-naked Russians running around on the beach, drunk on more Vodka than a normal man sees in an entire lifetime.


Garwall wrote:And it would be nice if I could search for Communist U.S.A. flags without every other result being "OBAMAS A SOCIALIST RARARA".


Just call me Kami


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Postby Valentir » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:17 pm

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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:19 pm

Kamchatkalia wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: Linky
428-Do Not Remove


Could we negotiate Corsica and Sardinia? Maybe you get a bit more of Aragon and I get Corsica and the northern part of Sardinia?
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:21 pm

Kamchatkalia wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: Linky
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Interesting.

I am very intrigued; what is this based on/meant to be?

Reatra wrote:
Kamchatkalia wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: Linky
428-Do Not Remove


Could we negotiate Corsica and Sardinia? Maybe you get a bit more of Aragon and I get Corsica and the northern part of Sardinia?


Dude you already have a goddamn trading port everywhere under the goddamn Sun, you've basically doomed any nation in the Mediterranean.

Valentir wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: http://i.imgur.com/kDFEdrq.png
428-Do Not Remove


Sultanate of Rum or Empire of Byzantium?
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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:21 pm

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The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby Valentir » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:22 pm

Bluh.
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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:22 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Kamchatkalia wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: Linky
428-Do Not Remove


Interesting.

I am very intrigued; what is this based on/meant to be?

Reatra wrote:
Could we negotiate Corsica and Sardinia? Maybe you get a bit more of Aragon and I get Corsica and the northern part of Sardinia?


Dude you already have a goddamn trading port everywhere under the goddamn Sun, you've basically doomed any nation in the Mediterranean.

Valentir wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: http://i.imgur.com/kDFEdrq.png
428-Do Not Remove


Sultanate of Rum or Empire of Byzantium?



Alright, I was just thinking that Corsica should be genovese.

Oh crap he has Provence too? Well how about I give him that with no argument, and the south of Sardinia?
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:23 pm

I'm glad everyone is claiming moderately and realistically sized nations

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Postby Kamchatkalia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:23 pm

Reatra wrote:
Kamchatkalia wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: Linky
428-Do Not Remove


Could we negotiate Corsica and Sardinia? Maybe you get a bit more of Aragon and I get Corsica and the northern part of Sardinia?


Oh woops, I didn't actually mean to claim Corsica and Sardinia; guess my finger went a little bucket-fill happy on MSPaint :p
Garwall wrote:
Neros wrote:I can just imagine the trouble Russia went through to colonize Colombia back in the day. Those cold-hardened peoples being sent to the tropics, all for the Motherland. Must have been worse than what the Spanish went through.


I feel worse for the natives. Seeing a bunch of ass-naked Russians running around on the beach, drunk on more Vodka than a normal man sees in an entire lifetime.


Garwall wrote:And it would be nice if I could search for Communist U.S.A. flags without every other result being "OBAMAS A SOCIALIST RARARA".


Just call me Kami

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:23 pm

Reatra wrote:
Alright, I was just thinking that Corsica should be genovese.

Oh crap he has Provence too? Well how about I give him that with no argument, and the south of Sardinia?


Why even have this discussion when neither of you know if Krys is going to accept your reservations due to realism/what he has planned?

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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:24 pm

Kamchatkalia wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Could we negotiate Corsica and Sardinia? Maybe you get a bit more of Aragon and I get Corsica and the northern part of Sardinia?


Oh woops, I didn't actually mean to claim Corsica and Sardinia; guess my finger went a little bucket-fill happy on MSPaint :p


Are you sure? I know I am a bit big, but if we were allies then maybe it would make sense to have you own the bottom of Sardinia.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Reatra » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:24 pm

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Reatra wrote:
Alright, I was just thinking that Corsica should be genovese.

Oh crap he has Provence too? Well how about I give him that with no argument, and the south of Sardinia?


Why even have this discussion when neither of you know if Krys is going to accept your reservations due to realism/what he has planned?


I know, but it is fun.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Caltarania » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:25 pm

Valentir wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: http://i.imgur.com/Gx4T6kH.png
428-Do Not Remove

Caltarania wrote:
Interesting.

I am very intrigued; what is this based on/meant to be?



Dude you already have a goddamn trading port everywhere under the goddamn Sun, you've basically doomed any nation in the Mediterranean.



Sultanate of Rum or Empire of Byzantium?

Nothing now since half of it is claimed by Genoa.


I doubt all of his claims will be accepted, I mean they're pretty goddamn stupid.#

Speaking of which, those Indian claims are... extensive. xD
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Postby Valentir » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:25 pm

Caltarania wrote:
Valentir wrote:RESERVATION
Land claimed: http://i.imgur.com/Gx4T6kH.png
428-Do Not Remove


Nothing now since half of it is claimed by Genoa.


I doubt all of his claims will be accepted, I mean they're pretty goddamn stupid.#

Speaking of which, those Indian claims are... extensive. xD

I'm sticking with the Turks.

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:26 pm

Reatra wrote:
The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Why even have this discussion when neither of you know if Krys is going to accept your reservations due to realism/what he has planned?


I know, but it is fun.


No, it's really not fun. It causes problems, as we have seen in countless RPs.

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Postby Liecthenbourg » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:26 pm

Valentir wrote:
Caltarania wrote:
I doubt all of his claims will be accepted, I mean they're pretty goddamn stupid.#

Speaking of which, those Indian claims are... extensive. xD

I'm sticking with the Turks.

Doner Kebab into Space!

NO, POLAN GET FIRST!
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The Region of Kylaris
I'm just a simple Kylarite, trying to make my way on NS.

The Gaullican Republic,
I thank God for Three Things:
Kylaris, the death of Esquarium, and Prem <3

The Transtsabaran Federation and The Chistovodian Workers' State

To understand European history watch these: Cultural erosion, German and Italian history, a brief history of Germany.

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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:27 pm

No my perfect Iberia is disappearing!!,!!!
I'm really tired

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