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Hobbesistan
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Zetaboards is now using Cloudflare to try and stay online.

Postby Hobbesistan » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:26 am

I now will swivel my brandy with my monocle while reciting "I told you so.", for the privately hosted forums look upon thee using zeta with laughter.


Serious: Any idea what's causing the downtime outside of 'a lot of DoS'?
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Postby Wintermoot » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:38 am

It's times like this that you realize control over your own forums is a good thing. :P
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Khronion
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Postby Khronion » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:39 am

This explains a lot actually. WZEU's forum has gone from slow to nearly unusable in the past two weeks or so.

Alas, small regions rarely can justify plunking down money for a forum... Or do you have suggestions?

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Postby Hobbesistan » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:41 am

Khronion wrote:This explains a lot actually. WZEU's forum has gone from slow to nearly unusable in the past two weeks or so.

Alas, small regions rarely can justify plunking down money for a forum... Or do you have suggestions?

There are free forum softwares, see myBB and phpBB.

For those unable to afford hosting, free solutions exist, I believe TSP uses X10 hosting.
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Postby Avaerilon » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:42 am

ProBoards has worked well for my region for a long time; I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Postby Yao » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:46 am

I think e-mailing is the best way for members of a region to communicate.

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Postby Unibot III » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:02 am

Hobbesistan wrote:I now will swivel my brandy with my monocle while reciting "I told you so.", for the privately hosted forums look upon thee using zeta with laughter.


Serious: Any idea what's causing the downtime outside of 'a lot of DoS'?


Someone sounds bitter.
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Postby McMasterdonia » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:37 am

Unibot III wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:I now will swivel my brandy with my monocle while reciting "I told you so.", for the privately hosted forums look upon thee using zeta with laughter.


Serious: Any idea what's causing the downtime outside of 'a lot of DoS'?


Someone sounds bitter.


Agreed.

I'd much rather have Zeta that hardly ever has issues than have a privately hosted forum (like some I know on NS ;) ) that go down every two weeks at least.

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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:32 am

Hobbesistan wrote:I now will swivel my brandy with my monocle while reciting "I told you so.", for the privately hosted forums look upon thee using zeta with laughter.


Serious: Any idea what's causing the downtime outside of 'a lot of DoS'?

Really is just a lot of DoS.

http://tachyondecay.net/php/bin/serverstatus.php - this tells you which servers are up and which ones are not. The attacker has not yet managed to bring down more than half of the ZB servers at once; it affects us a lot because a huge number of forums made in the last 18 months for NS are w11 forums (s11), and the forum that was originally being targeted by this DoSer is also w11.
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Postby North East Somerset » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:32 am

Been an Admin on ZB/IF free forums for about 8 years now, on 6 main forums with over 1,750,000 posts - a significant sample of some of the most successful offsite communities in NS history. And then there is of course the Mighty 10KI, the largest single offsite community in NS history, solidly running on freely hosted ProBoards.

In those 8 years I can count the number of times forums I've been Admin of, have had noteworthy outages, on one hand. What I can't count is the number of privately hosted forums for various NS regions that have come and gone: had arguments over ownership, issues with bearing of the costs, or folded after poor activity for a short period of time with no prospect of revival.
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Postby Anumia » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:16 am

I am suddenly reminded of the Commonwealth...

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:37 am

Self hosted will always be supreme, no matter what you Zetaboards apologists say. o/

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:46 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Self hosted will always be supreme, no matter what you Zetaboards apologists say. o/


Having your forums hosted by Jolt is clearly the superior way to go *nods*
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:20 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:I now will swivel my brandy with my monocle while reciting "I told you so.", for the privately hosted forums look upon thee using zeta with laughter.


Serious: Any idea what's causing the downtime outside of 'a lot of DoS'?

Really is just a lot of DoS.

http://tachyondecay.net/php/bin/serverstatus.php - this tells you which servers are up and which ones are not. The attacker has not yet managed to bring down more than half of the ZB servers at once; it affects us a lot because a huge number of forums made in the last 18 months for NS are w11 forums (s11), and the forum that was originally being targeted by this DoSer is also w11.


Anyone have any idea what "board on w11" is being targeted to set this all off?
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Postby Hobbesistan » Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:35 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Self hosted will always be supreme, no matter what you Zetaboards apologists say. o/


Having your forums hosted by Jolt is clearly the superior way to go *nods*

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Unibot III
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:30 pm

North East Somerset wrote:Been an Admin on ZB/IF free forums for about 8 years now, on 6 main forums with over 1,750,000 posts - a significant sample of some of the most successful offsite communities in NS history. And then there is of course the Mighty 10KI, the largest single offsite community in NS history, solidly running on freely hosted ProBoards.

In those 8 years I can count the number of times forums I've been Admin of, have had noteworthy outages, on one hand. What I can't count is the number of privately hosted forums for various NS regions that have come and gone: had arguments over ownership, issues with bearing of the costs, or folded after poor activity for a short period of time with no prospect of revival.


I wish more had signed up to the publicly hosted ones; all of the history on the private forums have been lost to the sands of time basically. Zetaboards is a much better options that the private forums which offer shoddy service regularly, weird BBcode and a solid attachment to Hobbes/Glen-Rhodes/Tech-Guru.
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Postby Solorni » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:16 pm

This has been quite frustrating but I am glad ZB is fighting and being open about it.
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Postby Riotopia » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:24 pm

Hobbesistan wrote:
Khronion wrote:This explains a lot actually. WZEU's forum has gone from slow to nearly unusable in the past two weeks or so.

Alas, small regions rarely can justify plunking down money for a forum... Or do you have suggestions?

There are free forum softwares, see myBB and phpBB.

For those unable to afford hosting, free solutions exist, I believe TSP uses X10 hosting.


GuildLaunch?

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Postby Syrixia » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:26 pm

So that's why TNP's forum is going nuts.
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Zetaboards is now using Cloudflare to try and stay online.

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:29 pm

BBCode is a relic of the early 2000s and needs to die anyways, Unibot.

Also, uptime would be great if a community was willing to fork over a measly $5/mo for a Digital Ocean account. Hell, there are free hosts with 99.99% uptime. x10 just sucks, but due to the politics of moving hosts, TSP is stuck with it.
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Postby Solorni » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:30 pm

The problem with tsps forums is that they are a bit backwards. Whenever I use the search engine it takes 5 seconds to process it... and goes through an intermediary screen.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:32 pm

That's because we throttle you, Rach. You're only searching for nefarious purposes!

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Postby Solorni » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:52 pm

Do I not have the right to be nefarious? ;)
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The Iron Rebel
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Postby The Iron Rebel » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:05 pm

Them making an effort is nice, except when Cloudflare doesn't work either sometimes :/

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Postby Tancerlo » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:39 pm

The zetaboards downtime has been getting quite ridiculous lately, but they are largely reliable in the long run. The downtime is also no real fault of zeta staff, just some malicious kid who apparently hates them. I do wish whoever is spearheading these relentless ddos attacks would go find something better to do with their time.
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