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The Gender Expression Thread!

Postby Meryuma » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:48 am

So, NSG, let's talk about gender expression.

A perennial topic in queer studies, gender expression for the uninitiated refers to the manner in which a person chooses to define and present themself within the context of their chosen gender. Here is a handy chart touching on the concept. Basically it comes down to how masculine, feminine or whatever else you feel at home living and presenting to society as. Gender expression has traditionally been very restricted in many societies but (at least in the West) a lot of attention has been brought relatively recently to those of us who defy conventional gendered appearances & behaviors.

So, NSers of all genders, what is your gender expression like? Do you live by the traditional stereotypes of your sex, gender and orientation or do you defy them? In what ways are masculine and in what ways are you feminine?

Personally, I'm a queer cis guy who generally presents rather androgynously but still recognizably male. I think I can be pretty great at presenting straight-up feminine if I feel like but I usually don't. I'm mostly into boys (occasionally people of other genders too) but my taste mostly runs towards the prettier end of the male spectrum. How about you?
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Postby Kaizara » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:31 am

Hmm, a conservative traditionalist here. Its either you're born with female, male or both male and female reproductive system or you are not.
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Postby Icrum » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:33 am

Im a heterosexual male that doesn't care what you are, as long as you aren't a douchebag I'm cool with you.
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Postby Jonkurlandia » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:35 am

according to western gender standarts im a guy
according to eastern european ones im a pussy
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Postby Exxosia » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:49 am

• In terms of gender identity, I am somewhere between male and completely neuter in this department.
• In terms of gender expression, I would probably be somewhere between male and completely neuter in this department as well, but I do not feel capable of expressing myself.
• Biological sex is some sort of male as I have a collection of male bits.
• Sexual orientation is bisexual/demisexual. I have to take a very long time to completely trust someone before I can consider intimacy and at that point, their general gender/sexual load-out does not matter.

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Postby Fabulous Rainicorns » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:03 am

Gender identity: male, androgyne, or agender
Gender expression: I present pretty neutral, but sometimes feminine, but I wish I could present more masculine. I'm not out, though, and I depend on parents for clothes.
Biological sex: female
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Postby WestRedMaple » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:05 am

I find gender a silly notion, and neither have nor desire one

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Postby Soled » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:08 am

I am a hetero, masculine male.
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Postby New Kvenland » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:10 am

Icrum wrote:Im a heterosexual male that doesn't care what you are, as long as you aren't a douchebag I'm cool with you.


Same here.
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Postby Corunia and Mironor » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:13 am

Icrum wrote:Im a heterosexual male that doesn't care what you are, as long as you aren't a douchebag I'm cool with you.

same here
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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:07 am

If you have a dingaling, you're a boy, if you have a vagerj, you're a girl.

From Merriam Webster:
: the state of being male or female
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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:34 am

I'm a heterosexual male and that's about it for my expression. I don't completely understand why things are considered feminine or maculine among many gender related topics. All I see (or at least try to) individuals and their actions.
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:35 am

I'm a pansexual trans girl who often dresses rather androgynously but who generally tries to appear feminine.
New Hampshire Republic wrote:If you have a dingaling, you're a boy, if you have a vagerj, you're a girl.

From Merriam Webster:
: the state of being male or female

No
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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:36 am

Threlizdun wrote:I'm a pansexual trans girl who often dresses rather androgynously but who generally tries to appear feminine.
New Hampshire Republic wrote:If you have a dingaling, you're a boy, if you have a vagerj, you're a girl.

From Merriam Webster:
: the state of being male or female

No

What do you mean "no?"
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Postby Fortschritte » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:36 am

New Hampshire Republic wrote:If you have a dingaling, you're a boy, if you have a vagerj, you're a girl.

From Merriam Webster:
: the state of being male or female


Gender is entirely separate from biological sex, y'know.
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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:37 am

Fortschritte wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:If you have a dingaling, you're a boy, if you have a vagerj, you're a girl.

From Merriam Webster:
: the state of being male or female


Gender is entirely separate from biological sex, y'know.


Then why the hell does MW have them as synonyms?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:37 am

Het male. Masculine, I suppose? I don't really think that there are a whole lot of gender roles for me to embrace/defy. I guess I'm shit at cars.
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Postby Avaerilon » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:38 am

I'm a boring cis hetero male :p I consider myself and most people I know consider me to be very masculine. Er, that's it. Cookies (::)
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Postby Zottistan » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:39 am

Identity: Agender.
Expression: Tending male, I suppose.
Orientation: Pansexual. I'm more attracted to individuals than to categories of individual.

EDIT: Oh, and I suppose biological sex is important. Male.
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Postby Fortschritte » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:40 am

New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Fortschritte wrote:
Gender is entirely separate from biological sex, y'know.


Then why the hell does MW have them as synonyms?


From what I can see, it doesn't. Furthermore, Merriam Webster is not a scientific organization who's opinions on gender identity and biological sex should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:40 am

Gender Identity: Male
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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:41 am

Fortschritte wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Then why the hell does MW have them as synonyms?


From what I can see, it doesn't. Furthermore, Merriam Webster is not a scientific organization who's opinions on gender identity and biological sex should be taken with a grain of salt.

Medical Definition of GENDER

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:41 am

Fortschritte wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Then why the hell does MW have them as synonyms?


From what I can see, it doesn't. Furthermore, Merriam Webster is not a scientific organization who's opinions on gender identity and biological sex should be taken with a grain of salt.

Don't forget that the representation of them as synonyms reflects common usage, and in context they can still be separated.
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Postby Estado Nacional » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:42 am

Meryuma wrote:A perennial topic in queer studies


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Postby Fortschritte » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:42 am

New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Fortschritte wrote:
From what I can see, it doesn't. Furthermore, Merriam Webster is not a scientific organization who's opinions on gender identity and biological sex should be taken with a grain of salt.

Medical Definition of GENDER

: sex


Can you source what you're saying?

Furthermore, Merriam Webster is not a valid scientific organization. Ergo, it doesn't decide the difference between gender and sex. It's a internet dictionary.
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