Corporatocracy: A Plausible (Or Inplausible) Future?

[Barraco Barner]

The Age of Corporations

Is the governmental type of "corporatocracy" a plausible future for the US, and perhaps other nations as well?

Links about Corporatocracy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/corporatocracy/
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/corporatocracy

In my opinion, corporatocracies are a bad thing. I like conservatism, but companies ruling? Hell no! Especially the fact that they can control multiple countries if they are companies like Shell or Exxon.

-From Your Local Neighborhood Dictator Obama

Your opinions, NSG?

[Communist Volkstrad]

I would despise a corporatocracy. It's a plausible future, but one I'd shun to go down. Companies would look out for their own best interests, to feed into their own wallet. They wouldn't care about the people at all, they'd just break their lives down into dollar signs.
If such a thing became real, I'd probably involve myself in some sort of socialist resistance trying to dethrone the corporations, that is how much I utterly despise the concept.

[Barraco Barner]

I would despise a corporatocracy. It's a plausible future, but one I'd shun to go down. Companies would look out for their own best interests, to feed into their own wallet. They wouldn't care about the people at all, they'd just break their lives down into dollar signs.
If such a thing became real, I'd probably involve myself in some sort of socialist resistance trying to dethrone the corporations, that is how much I utterly despise the concept.

True. If corporatocracies were to start to become a real thing, it'll most likely start in America, and in an administrative division.

[The Felnian Colonies]

It's a very plausible and tragic future for us.

[Faiv]

I wouldn't mind it.

EDIT: I wouldn't agree with it 100% but in general I'm not against it. I'd still prefer democracy first and if it fits with democratic way of ruling then I'm not against.

[Communist Volkstrad]

I would despise a corporatocracy. It's a plausible future, but one I'd shun to go down. Companies would look out for their own best interests, to feed into their own wallet. They wouldn't care about the people at all, they'd just break their lives down into dollar signs.
If such a thing became real, I'd probably involve myself in some sort of socialist resistance trying to dethrone the corporations, that is how much I utterly despise the concept.

True. If corporatocracies were to start to become a real thing, it'll most likely start in America, and in an administrative division.

I agree it would be most likely to start here in America, and I hope it would end here before it could spread as well.

[Skinia]

It's already here, only as de facto instead of de jure corporatocracy. And no, I wouldn't approve of a Jennifer Government scenario.

[Indira]

Could it happen? Yes, I suppose so. Is it a good thing? Hell no, not even for businesses I suspect. There are some things that Government is better suited for than businesses and certainly it helps business to leave certain things like basic education to government control.

[Brillnuck]

We could be heading there, or we might not be.

I wouldn't mind it.

So would you like small businesses to be banned?

[Faiv]

We could be heading there, or we might not be.

I wouldn't mind it.

So would you like small businesses to be banned?

No. I voted "Yes, but have other businesses have a chance."

[Communist Volkstrad]

We could be heading there, or we might not be.


So would you like small businesses to be banned?

No. I voted "Yes, but have other businesses have a chance."

Why would this in any way be a good idea though?

[Skinia]

We could be heading there, or we might not be.


So would you like small businesses to be banned?

No. I voted "Yes, but have other businesses have a chance."

That chance will not be guaranteed in a corporatocracy. Corporations seek to get as much profit as possible and what better way to guarantee profits for one's own company than deny competition?

[Brillnuck]

No. I voted "Yes, but have other businesses have a chance."

That chance will not be guaranteed in a corporatocracy. Corporations seek to get as much profit as possible and what better way to guarantee profits for one's own company than deny competition?

Agreed.

[Dejanic]

This is what would probably happen if a nation was to undergo political Libertarianism. I could probably see some odd type of political system, "Anarcho-Corporatism", forming, where giant corporations basically run everything.

This system would probably turn into some violent slug fest, think of Nar Shaddaa in Starwars, there's no official "government" as such, there's just huge Hutt Cartels (Bourgeois Corporations) that run certain sectors of society/parts of land, these Corporations would effectively be governments in everything but name only.

[Faiv]

No. I voted "Yes, but have other businesses have a chance."

That chance will not be guaranteed in a corporatocracy. Corporations seek to get as much profit as possible and what better way to guarantee profits for one's own company than deny competition?

Because of separation of powers this wouldn't happen. Judicial system would be independent.

[Brillnuck]

This is what would probably happen if a nation was to undergo political Libertarianism. I could probably see some odd type of political system, "Anarcho-Corporatism", forming, where giant corporations basically run everything.

This system would probably turn into some violent slug fest, think of Nar Shaddaa in Starwars, there's no official "government" as such, there's just huge Hutt Cartels (Bourgeois Corporations) that run certain sectors of society/parts of land, these Corporations would effectively be governments in everything but name only.

Exactly, though I was thinking of the Coruscant Underworld.

[Skinia]

That chance will not be guaranteed in a corporatocracy. Corporations seek to get as much profit as possible and what better way to guarantee profits for one's own company than deny competition?

Because of separation of powers this wouldn't happen. Judicial system would be independent.

If by 'independent' you meant 'independent from the private sector', wrong. Not in corporatocracy, it wouldn't. Businesses would use their increasing clout to influence decision-making of anyone in anything, no matter how 'independent'. Corruption would be crippling.

[Atomosea]

Trust me, we have a long way to go and quite a few important pieces of the Constitution to amend and repeal before we literally and openly have corporations actually running the government themselves.

[Skinia]

Trust me, we have a long way to go and quite a few important pieces of the Constitution to amend and repeal before we literally and openly have corporations actually running the government themselves.

You already have the 'literally' part there through the bought politicians of the two dominant parties. I don't think corporations need to rule openly for any other reason than some sadomasochistic but non-sexual power fantasy.

[Terrordome]

as someone already said, the USA is already alsmost a de facto corporatocracy. With corporations already drafting proposing legislation to the government through ALEC, and the campaign finance system basicly letting corporations bribe candidates, and with corporate families like the Koch brothers or Walton family having such political influence that it makes a mockery of "1 person 1 vote" you guys are pretty much 75% of the way there.

Just look at the reps opposing climate change science, all off them had campaigns funded by BP, Koch, Shell, etc. etc. etc.

Elected officials are already pretty much paid to protect corporate intrests. Refuse to do so and oops! No more campaign finance for you, we'l get someone to primary you with out full financial backing bye bye!

[Yraxivia]

It seems like the most corrupt government ever.
"If you buy 3,000 large pepperoni pizzas this year, you get to vote in the coming elections!"

[Faiv]

Because of separation of powers this wouldn't happen. Judicial system would be independent.

If by 'independent' you meant 'independent from the private sector', wrong. Not in corporatocracy, it wouldn't. Businesses would use their increasing clout to influence decision-making of anyone in anything, no matter how 'independent'. Corruption would be crippling.

If judicial system and law enforcment do everything right then something like that can't happen. Bribing would still be criminal I belive.

And as I mentioned above I don't support this idea completely. There are many bits I disagree with.

[Dejanic]

This is what would probably happen if a nation was to undergo political Libertarianism. I could probably see some odd type of political system, "Anarcho-Corporatism", forming, where giant corporations basically run everything.

This system would probably turn into some violent slug fest, think of Nar Shaddaa in Starwars, there's no official "government" as such, there's just huge Hutt Cartels (Bourgeois Corporations) that run certain sectors of society/parts of land, these Corporations would effectively be governments in everything but name only.

Exactly, though I was thinking of the Coruscant Underworld.

Well, the Coruscant Underworld is like a small scale version of it, since you have loads of private gangs fighting over land and resources, and basically no government/public influence, the Coruscant Underworld is more like a violent form of Anarcho Capitalism, Nar Shaddaa and Nal Hutta on the other hand basically have full on Anarcho-Corporatism, as Corporate entities (the Hutts) rule everything, without actually being governments.

Hardcore Libertarianism would probably lead to violent small scale Anarcho Capitalism in poorer nations, and more aggressive Anarcho-Corporatism in wealthier nations.

[The Confederal Republic]

Hmm... I wouldn't mind a society run by Cooperative or Worker-Owned Corporations, but I don't see that as an option, so I'll stick to good ol' democracy.

[Skinia]

If by 'independent' you meant 'independent from the private sector', wrong. Not in corporatocracy, it wouldn't. Businesses would use their increasing clout to influence decision-making of anyone in anything, no matter how 'independent'. Corruption would be crippling.

If judicial system and law enforcment do everything right then something like that can't happen. Bribing would still be criminal I belive.

And as I mentioned above I don't support this idea completely. There are many bits I disagree with.

Just because something is prohibited or granted by law, doesn't mean everyone will follow it and certainly not those with the financial clout to do whatever they fucking want, basically. Contracts and constitutions would be meaningless at that point.