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Postby Communist Myanmar » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:38 pm

This is the discussion thread for the in-game one here.

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Postby Aeyariss » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:46 am

Sorry for my lack of post. Busy with work.

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Postby Communist Myanmar » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:47 am

No problem. Risya et al, including myself have our own delays as well. There's no rush, take all the time you need. :)
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Postby Riysa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:03 am

Pardon me, but I'm completely lost as to what's been going on in the IC.

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Postby El Cuscatlan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:04 am

Riysa wrote:Pardon me, but I'm completely lost as to what's been going on in the IC.


Yeah we need to slow down a bit.
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Postby Communist Myanmar » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:28 pm

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Riysa wrote:Pardon me, but I'm completely lost as to what's been going on in the IC.


Yeah we need to slow down a bit.

Yes... I suppose we sort of should. I am just going to partially reply to what has already been posted, I won't go beyond that for now lest we get lost whilst also confused in the thread.

Oh... I also wonder if its all right to add Qassem Soleimani into my Burmese characters, out of Syria for a bit. He's that type of wandering Iranian commander you know, after all! XD
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Postby Riysa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:09 pm

I know Cus is fighting with someone off in the China Sea, so that doesn't involve me (yet).

What I understood has happened so far is:

1. Burma got rekt by the initial strike and is now trying to figure out ways to counter any further cruise missile strikes.
2. Huda is trying to figure out how to penetrate the blockade and land troops in Burma.

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Postby Communist Myanmar » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:43 pm

Pretty much, whilst Tun Yi invited Yugoslav veteran Zoltán Dani to command the air defence in the hopes of achieving better results.
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Postby Riysa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:17 pm

Is there anything else in the area or just you and Huda that I need to reply to?

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Riysa wrote:Is there anything else in the area or just you and Huda that I need to reply to?

If I recall correctly, only me & Huda for the time being. Mcnernia's USSR alt has yet to arrive (whilst I have yet to respond to their communique for the matter)
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Postby Huda » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:41 pm

Today was the science fair, so I'll get it done by 7 hours. As for matters, I do intend on getting AWACs from China. To try and find bombers. Don't post without me.

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Postby Unified Soviet Socialist Republics » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:49 pm

I am En Route.

I hereby grant to Huda Air Force the following.
x8 A-5 AEW&C.

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Unified Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:I am En Route.

I hereby grant to Huda Air Force the following.
x8 A-5 AEW&C.


Airdrop them to Bangladesh.

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Postby Riysa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:14 pm

Huda, what ships do you have in the Bay of Bengal?

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Postby Communist Myanmar » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:27 pm

Unified Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:I am En Route.

I hereby grant to Huda Air Force the following.
x8 A-5 AEW&C.

Comrade,

I suggest giving him the license for the Beriev A-100, that is the best Russian AEW&CS of recent XD
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Postby Huda » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:47 am

Riysa wrote:Huda, what ships do you have in the Bay of Bengal?

I've got 2 Hudian nuclear (powered) submarines, along with 10 Hudian Udaloy-Class, 5 Kolkata Class, and a USS Zumwalt.

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Huda wrote:
Riysa wrote:Huda, what ships do you have in the Bay of Bengal?

I've got 2 Hudian nuclear (powered) submarines, along with 10 Hudian Udaloy-Class, 5 Kolkata Class, and a USS Zumwalt.


What about the troop transports?

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Postby Unified Soviet Socialist Republics » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:22 am

Official Document of the Soviet Ministry of Industry-Military Aviation

Regarding the recent Conflicts that have broken out in Myanmar the Ministry of Industry has decided to grant license for the production in the Federation of Huda by Hudan Aviation Industrial entities for the Berev-Ilyushin A-100 Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft.

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Postby Huda » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:52 am

Riysa wrote:
Huda wrote:I've got 2 Hudian nuclear (powered) submarines, along with 10 Hudian Udaloy-Class, 5 Kolkata Class, and a USS Zumwalt.


What about the troop transports?

Most Bangla-Indo troops are going from borders, mostly on trucks and APCs, whilst 3 A400Ms airdrop Hudians to the capital.

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Postby Riysa » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:58 pm

Huda wrote:
Riysa wrote:
What about the troop transports?

Most Bangla-Indo troops are going from borders, mostly on trucks and APCs, whilst 3 A400Ms airdrop Hudians to the capital.


Huda is sorta to the south of Burma, or am I wrong?

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Postby El Cuscatlan » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:14 pm

Now let me state what is not okay with Souriya's recent post:

KH22MA. This missile has speed of MACH 6. My Falling Star missile has speed of MACH 3.3. Tomahawk has speed of 890 km/h. 1Mach = 1225.0kph. Sukhoi 35 performance:

At altitude: Mach 2.25 (2,390 km/h, 1,490 mph)
At sea level: Mach 1.15 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)

So, I doubt that with SU 35 you will be able to stop even ONE KH22MA. First, SU35 were never built for intercepting missiles, second KH22MA is simply too fast for being intercepted by missile created to shoot down aircraft.

(This post may be expanded when I find more).
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Postby Communist Myanmar » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:36 pm

El Cuscatlan wrote:Now let me state what is not okay with Souriya's recent post:

KH22MA. This missile has speed of MACH 6. My Falling Star missile has speed of MACH 3.3. Tomahawk has speed of 890 km/h. 1Mach = 1225.0kph. Sukhoi 35 performance:

At altitude: Mach 2.25 (2,390 km/h, 1,490 mph)
At sea level: Mach 1.15 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)

So, I doubt that with SU 35 you will be able to stop even ONE KH22MA. First, SU35 were never built for intercepting missiles, second KH22MA is simply too fast for being intercepted by missile created to shoot down aircraft.

(This post may be expanded when I find more).

I apologise, I had not taken note about your missile speeds when I was doing my post.
Since my first attempt at posting it was lost during the other day's unexpected crash, I partially forgot what was originally in the post, thence when I rewrote it without looking at the thread, this happened. If there are any other inconsistencies please do point them out.

Regarding Su-35s however, they are multi-role jets, thus I could technically utilise it against your Tomahawk like missiles. The inconsistency I myself noticed is however, I forgot to specify which air-to-air missile I had used. (Using R-37M, PL-21D, R/K-77ME (izdeliye 180-PD) & Novator K-100 for this purpose would more or less work right?)

On the ground some of my air defence batteries including C-400 & C-500, both of whom have air defence missiles with speeds that eclipse Mach 6, especially ones like the Triumf's 40N6.
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Postby Riysa » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:45 pm

Theoretically, it is possible for a plane to engage in anti-cruise missile defense, but no intercepts have occurred against supersonic missiles. It is theoretically possible that the S-400 and S-500 can engage cruise missiles, but are designed to intercept ballistic missiles. Whether its missiles are agile enough to intercept a cruise missile descending close to the ground is anyone's guess, but Almazy claims a 70% hit chance on a subsonic Harpoon-type weapon.

I'd presume there would be some interceptions by the strategic SAM systems, but definitely no planes.

ETA: Going to throw out there that the 40N6 is designed for hitting easy targets, such as large EW planes and the like, as it has terrible maneuverability.
ETA2: Also going to mention that its difficult to intercept any sort of cruise missile, very few combat interceptions have been performed.
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Postby Communist Myanmar » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:54 pm

Riysa wrote:Theoretically, it is possible for a plane to engage in anti-cruise missile defense, but no intercepts have occurred against supersonic missiles. It is theoretically possible that the S-400 and S-500 can engage cruise missiles, but are designed to intercept ballistic missiles. Whether its missiles are agile enough to intercept a cruise missile descending close to the ground is anyone's guess, but Almazy claims a 70% hit chance on a subsonic Harpoon-type weapon.

I'd presume there would be some interceptions by the strategic SAM systems, but definitely no planes.

ETA: Going to throw out there that the 40N6 is designed for hitting easy targets, such as large EW planes and the like, as it has terrible maneuverability.

Su-35 is a successor to Su-27 & Su-30, moreover according to some sites I read, they can be used to an extent to intercept missiles. Perhaps not ones like the Mach 3,3 & Mach 6 GC utilised, however on Tomahawks I think they can.
@ETA2: Yugoslavia's former defence ministry said it shot down 454 NATO cruise missiles...
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Postby Riysa » Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:55 pm

Communist Myanmar wrote:
Riysa wrote:Theoretically, it is possible for a plane to engage in anti-cruise missile defense, but no intercepts have occurred against supersonic missiles. It is theoretically possible that the S-400 and S-500 can engage cruise missiles, but are designed to intercept ballistic missiles. Whether its missiles are agile enough to intercept a cruise missile descending close to the ground is anyone's guess, but Almazy claims a 70% hit chance on a subsonic Harpoon-type weapon.

I'd presume there would be some interceptions by the strategic SAM systems, but definitely no planes.

ETA: Going to throw out there that the 40N6 is designed for hitting easy targets, such as large EW planes and the like, as it has terrible maneuverability.

Su-35 is a successor to Su-27 & Su-30, moreover according to some sites I read, they can be used to an extent to intercept missiles. Perhaps not ones like the Mach 3,3 & Mach 6 GC utilised, however on Tomahawks I think they can.


Any plane can be used to intercept missiles, its not about tech.

To the best of my knowledge, no one has used Tomahawk-type weapons.

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