Socialist discussion thread

[Dejanic]

I've seen lots of people round these parts call themselves "Socialists", so I think it's a good idea for us to have a thread of our own, so we can internally discuss the ins and outs of Socialism.

Contrary to what's espoused by Conservatives and others on the right, Socialism is a diverse economic ideology, there's more of a difference between a state directed socialist system and a market socialist system than there is between a typical "Liberal" economic system, and a "Conservative" economic system.

So welcome all, the first point of discussion will be, "what economic system do you support", as was stated before, Socialism is a very broad economic system, and their is many different conflicting ideas on what a Socialist system should look like.

Personally, I'm more of a Social Democrat myself so for the time being I support a mixed Capitalist system, though I do support a very long term transition into a Socialist society, I'm personally unsure as to what economic system I favour under Socialism, but I could see a mixed one combining market socialism with state socialism for certain sectors like healthcare and energy working well.

[T Roosevelt]

I support mixed market capitalism but I am a social conservative.

[Land and Freedom]

Ultimately, some sort of gift economy.

[Finland SSR]

I'm all for regulated capitalism. Of course, market socialism isn't THAT bad, as well as mixed systems.

[Land and Freedom]

I support mixed market capitalism but I am a social conservative.

That's nice dear.

[T Roosevelt]

I support mixed market capitalism but I am a social conservative.

That's nice dear.

Don't call me dear, son. You're not my wife or my mother.

[Land and Freedom]

That's nice dear.

Don't call me dear, son. You're not my wife or my mother.

I might well be.

[Calimera II]

I don't think I am very welcome here.

[Brillnuck]

I support mixed market capitalism but I am a social conservative.

I support Prussian/Guild/Market Socialism, and also Social Conservatism.

As for the political compass, I'm a Far-Left Social Authoritarian.

[Washington Resistance Army]

National Socialism is best socialism.

Runs away

[Land and Freedom]

I don't think I am very welcome here.

Sit down and have a beer comrade.

[Conscentia]

Those poll options aren't all mutually exclusive. A syndicalist can be a communist, and syndicalists are market socialists.

[Brillnuck]

I'm all for regulated capitalism. Of course, market socialism isn't THAT bad, as well as mixed systems.

Market Socialism is pretty much Capitalism, except the businesses are workers co-operatives.

[Brillnuck]

Market Socialism is good. It uses the free market, and workers co-operatives to do something good.

[Chestaan]

Those poll options aren't all mutually exclusive. A syndicalist can be a communist, and syndicalists are market socialists.

Pretty much. Most syndicalists and market socialists could also be called communists as they mostly just differ on how to achieve communism.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Radical politics are the only rational politics. Liberal revisionism refuses and denies criticism or deconstruction of the origins of institutions, their ownership, and their ethos as organizations. Anarchism is really the only acceptable, just response to hierarchy.

[Dejanic]

Those poll options aren't all mutually exclusive. A syndicalist can be a communist, and syndicalists are market socialists.

Hence why I made it so one can vote twice, if one is a Communist who supports State Socialism as a transition, then they can vote for both.

One of the biggest aspects of Syndicalism is the abolishment of the wage system, so whilst Market Syndicalism (a fusion of the two theories) can exist, pure syndicalism is against money and markets.

[Calimera II]

I don't think I am very welcome here.

Sit down and have a beer comrade.

O well, what a friendly socialist you are. (:

[Finland SSR]

Those poll options aren't all mutually exclusive. A syndicalist can be a communist, and syndicalists are market socialists.

Hence why I made it so one can vote twice, if one is a Communist who supports State Socialism as a transition, then they can vote for both.

One of the biggest aspects of Syndicalism is the abolishment of the wage system, so whilst Market Syndicalism (a fusion of the two theories) can exist, pure syndicalism is against money and markets.

Wait, if syndicalism abolishes wages, what do the workers get for their effort? Land?

[Valica]

Can you add techno-socialism to the list? Pleeaasseee?

[Conscentia]

Those poll options aren't all mutually exclusive. A syndicalist can be a communist, and syndicalists are market socialists.

Hence why I made it so one can vote twice, if one is a Communist who supports State Socialism as a transition, then they can vote for both.

One of the biggest aspects of Syndicalism is the abolishment of the wage system, so whilst Market Syndicalism (a fusion of the two theories) can exist, pure syndicalism is against money and markets.

But more than two options are applicable in the case of an anarchist syndicalist who supports decentralised planning as part of a communist society.

Also, syndicalism does not necessarily abolish the wage system.

[Brillnuck]

YOU ALL HAVE AUTISM

Autism jokes are not funny.

[Conscentia]

Can you add techno-socialism to the list? Pleeaasseee?

That would be what, exactly?

[Conscentia]

Autism jokes are not funny.

Do not acknowledge such posts. The moderators have been notified.

[Land and Freedom]

Sit down and have a beer comrade.

O well, what a friendly socialist you are. (:

An unsocial socialist is a sad and sorry sight.