Could the Soviet Union come back?

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

I read something interesting that the new Novorossiya country in the Ukraine wants to have a Soviet-based government and also this raises a chilling question could the Soviet Union come back? I read it last night in Wikipedia and it really was chilling to think that a simple idea on the political spectrum can turn into a big radical fiasco for the European Union.



The status of Novorossiya then came into dispute on 26 May, when according to Bolotov, "none of the agreements have been concluded" but the intention is to form a "Union of People's Republics".[18] In an interview on 31 May, Denis Pushilin, head of state of the Donetsk People's Republic, stated that Novorossiya currently exists as a union of people's republics, but cooperation could be deepened if more territories were to join.[19]

In July a "Manifesto of National Front of Liberation of Ukraine, Novorossiya and Carpathian Russia" was published in Russian media. The manifesto defines objective of the separatist movement to be "establishing on territory of Ukraine a just, social, national republic without oligarchs and corrupted bureaucracy" and their main enemies being "liberal-fascist ruling elites".[20

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[Cyrisnia]

No. I'm pretty sure all of Eastern Europe, minus Belarus, parts of Ukraine, and Russia (maybe), along with the rest of the world minus North Best Korea and maybe China would get really fucking pissed.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

Tell me something can this happen in the near future Vladimir Putin trying to break apart the Ukraine's political and economic development.

[Text People]

I thought that Putin wanted something more like old imperialist Russia, and it's old borders.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

No. I'm pretty sure all of Eastern Europe, minus Belarus, parts of Ukraine, and Russia (maybe), along with the rest of the world minus North Best Korea and maybe China would get really fucking pissed.

I know but the Crimea belongs to the Ukraine it always had!

[The New Sea Territory]

Russia invading Crimea =/= RETURNCOLDWARSOVIETPUTINZOMG

[Insaeldor]

oh wait you're serious?

Nope, given the particular politics of the republics if the Russian federation was to try and regain it's territory it be hard pressed to do so with major conflict ether by locals or other nations. Plus not going to lie I'm not seeing communism (or rather Marxist-Leninism) coming into power in Russia they've been pretty content with the politics of the current ruling party.

[The balkens]

No. I'm pretty sure all of Eastern Europe, minus Belarus, parts of Ukraine, and Russia (maybe), along with the rest of the world minus North Best Korea and maybe China would get really fucking pissed.

COLD WAR II, the re-coldwaring.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

I thought that Putin wanted something more like old imperialist Russia, and it's old borders.

But he's impeding on the international territorial laws that was set up by the Geneva Convention and also the UN

[Insaeldor]

I thought that Putin wanted something more like old imperialist Russia, and it's old borders.

But he's impeding on the international territorial laws that was set up by the Geneva Convention and also the UN

Yes but that doesn't mean recreation of the Soviet Union.

[Squeeheart]

"Those who do not miss the Soviet Union have no heart. Those who want it back have no brain."

-Vladimir Putin

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

:rofl: oh wait you're serious?

Nope, given the particular politics of the republics if the Russian federation was to try and regain it's territory it be hard pressed to do so with major conflict ether by locals or other nations. Plus not going to lie I'm not seeing communism (or rather Marxist-Leninism) coming into power in Russia they've been pretty content with the politics of the current ruling party.

What I know with the legal what he's doing and also unethical behavior that is really atrocious in the political spectrum

[Cyrisnia]

No. I'm pretty sure all of Eastern Europe, minus Belarus, parts of Ukraine, and Russia (maybe), along with the rest of the world minus North Best Korea and maybe China would get really fucking pissed.

I know but the Crimea belongs to the Ukraine it always had!

Crimea =/= USSR.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

But he's impeding on the international territorial laws that was set up by the Geneva Convention and also the UN

Yes but that doesn't mean recreation of the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union seized countries by invading and annexing them without any authorization.

[Insaeldor]

:rofl: oh wait you're serious?

Nope, given the particular politics of the republics if the Russian federation was to try and regain it's territory it be hard pressed to do so with major conflict ether by locals or other nations. Plus not going to lie I'm not seeing communism (or rather Marxist-Leninism) coming into power in Russia they've been pretty content with the politics of the current ruling party.

What I know with the legal what he's doing and also unethical behavior that is really atrocious in the political spectrum

Yes we know this, that isn't up for debate. What were disputing is his willingness to reestablished the Soviet Union. Russian aggression must be curtailed but to say "err guys he wants new Soviet Union" is a fairly uneducated assumption and done so without much knowledge of Russian politics.

[Insaeldor]

Yes but that doesn't mean recreation of the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union seized countries by invading and annexing them without any authorization.

I'll redirect you to this

I know but the Crimea belongs to the Ukraine it always had!

Crimea =/= USSR.

[Cyrisnia]

:rofl: oh wait you're serious?

Nope, given the particular politics of the republics if the Russian federation was to try and regain it's territory it be hard pressed to do so with major conflict ether by locals or other nations. Plus not going to lie I'm not seeing communism (or rather Marxist-Leninism) coming into power in Russia they've been pretty content with the politics of the current ruling party.

What I know with the legal what he's doing and also unethical behavior that is really atrocious in the political spectrum

What counts as "Atrocious" in the Political Spectrum? Politicians do stupid shit 24/7.
Whether it be threats, various stupid actions, or sending dick pics to people, politicians are humans too.
Humans can be dumbfucks.

[Text People]

Yes but that doesn't mean recreation of the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union seized countries by invading and annexing them without any authorization.

I'm not sure the U.N. can give authorization for annexing or invading. They can only vote that a nation has just cause to take military action.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

The Soviet Union seized countries by invading and annexing them without any authorization.

I'm not sure the U.N. can give authorization for annexing or invading. They can only vote that a nation has just cause to take military action.

Well we're talking about the aggressive policies of the Russian Federation and also the fact that Putin has tried to be a President who acts more like a czar. If I want to invade Iraq and Afghanistan then make them my two provinces and territories I can with help from the U.N.?

[Aquillus]

Yes but that doesn't mean recreation of the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union seized countries by invading and annexing them without any authorization.

Yet the USSR was not the only nation to do so.

[Insaeldor]

I'm not sure the U.N. can give authorization for annexing or invading. They can only vote that a nation has just cause to take military action.

Well we're talking about the aggressive policies of the Russian Federation and also the fact that Putin has tried to be a President who acts more like a czar. If I want to invade Iraq and Afghanistan then make them my two provinces and territories I can with help from the U.N.?

No, mainly because the UN will not allow the sovereignty of two whole member states be completely abolished and disregarded nor would the people of said countries or neighboring nations.

To say the UN would help aid imperialism is idiotic at best.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

Well we're talking about the aggressive policies of the Russian Federation and also the fact that Putin has tried to be a President who acts more like a czar. If I want to invade Iraq and Afghanistan then make them my two provinces and territories I can with help from the U.N.?

No, mainly because the UN will not allow the sovereignty of two whole member states be completely abolished and disregarded nor would the people of said countries or neighboring nations.

To say the UN would help aid imperialism is idiotic at best.

You can say that again

[Adiedren]

It can't come back. Putin doesn't want it. He wants it more imerialist style . And there is no way they will regain teritory other then novorussya and crimea, i don't think nato would allow that

[Text People]

I'm not sure the U.N. can give authorization for annexing or invading. They can only vote that a nation has just cause to take military action.

Well we're talking about the aggressive policies of the Russian Federation and also the fact that Putin has tried to be a President who acts more like a czar. If I want to invade Iraq and Afghanistan then make them my two provinces and territories I can with help from the U.N.?

I don't think the U.N. is supposed to be in the conquering business. That's the point. If they can't head off a war by diplomatic means and they believe a war is justified, for whatever reason, they give approval. It's not the same as conquest. I'm not sure they can completely take away the sovereignty of another nation no matter the claim made by..another nation.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

It can't come back. Putin doesn't want it. He wants it more imerialist style . And there is no way they will regain teritory other then novorussya and crimea, i don't think nato would allow that

So NATO can step in and say "Get outta here!"