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Postby Davisholm » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:59 pm

  • What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
  • How are surnames inherited?
  • Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
  • Any other information or unusual customs?

In Davisholm, all male people have the title "Mr" and all female people have the title "Miss" (if they're using their maiden name) or "Mrs" (if they're using their marital surname). There are two differences though. Firstly, women tend to add their husband's surname as a middle name when they marry, or just keep their name the same. Secondly, since the 1960s, it is now more common for women to keep using their maiden name as their surname after marriage. Both men and women take their surnames from their fathers.

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Postby Anollasia » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:28 pm

•What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)

Official titles like Sir, Lord, Pasha, Effendi, are banned. Our ways of addressing people include Mr., Mrs., Ms., Miss, Sir, Ma'am, Madam, Madame, Mademoiselle, Monsieur, Bay (Mr.), Bey (Mr., more casual/traditional), Bayan (Mrs., Ms., Miss), Hanım (Usually Mrs. or Ms., more casual/traditional)

•How are surnames inherited?

They were chosen a long LONG time ago by the ''family man''. Surnames are usually a word, combination of words, or indicate your origins. Eg. ''Kara'' (Dark), ''Oakwood'', ''Simpson''.

•Does a woman's surname change when she marries?

Yes, but if she chooses, she can keep her maiden name or use both surnames.

•Any other information or unusual customs?

Surnames are generally referred to as last names. Turkish Anollasians didn't always have surnames. The titles Bey, Effendi, Pasha, etc. were used. When we became independent in 1760, some Turkish Anollasians adopted surnames but all of them adopted surnames in the 1870s, through a process of modernization.

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Postby Isokano » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:35 pm

In Isokano, everyone is referred to by Sinjoro ("sir") or Sinjorino ("ma'am"). If the person is of a third gender or their gender is unknown, Sinjoro is used. The Ministers and members of the Igimbo are referred to as Estro/Estrino ("chief"). Soldiers (with the exception of the Supreme Commander of the Military (AKA the Minister of War)) are referred to as Glavo/Glavino ("sword"). Surnames can be inherited either paternally or maternally, or a new one may be created. Women's names only change if they wish for them to. In most cases, spouses keep their original surnames.
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Postby Ctulhtii » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:42 pm

In Chulhtii there is only one name title, Bakr, "The wise/talented one", that is granted to highly succesful people (businessmen, athletes, politicians). Ctulhtii being a conservative nation, women rarely earn this title, although it is possible. Apart from "Bakr" there aren't any Mr, Mrs or such in use.

Women change their surname 95% of the time. Father's surname is inherited to all the children.

In Ctulhtii every first name is unisex: every male name transforms into female name by adding the suffix -a. For example, it isn't uncommon to see a family where son's and daughter's names have the same stem, e.g. Mheth and Mhetha.

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Postby Themiclesia » Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:04 pm

A name in Themiclesia is tripartite, consisting of a personal name ὄνομα ἑαυτοῦ, a family name, ὄνομα δῆς, and a racial designation (for the nature of race in Themiclesia, see factbooks), ὄνομα ἔθνους.

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation?

The English customs of courtesy titles, such as Mr. and Mrs. have permeated into Themiclesia by the 20s, so it is now customary to address any person without a higher title by these titles. Since Themiclesia is still very much entrenched in a feudal social structure if only superficially and ceremonially, titles like "Sir" and "Dame", for gentlemen and knights, and "Lord" and "Lady", for kings, queens, lords, ladies, ministers, and officials are still very much in use. Dukes and kings customarily use the style "your Grace" domestically. The style "your Lordship" is used for marquises, counts, viscounts, and barons. The style "your Honour" is used for ministers and officials.

How are surnames inherited?

The ὄνομα δῆς and ὄνομα ἔθνους of any person are by definition identical to his legal father; the legal father could be a biological father or an adoptive father. Thus, the mother literally leaves no trace of her name on her children.

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?

No. A married wife retains her ὄνομα δῆς and ὄνομα ἔθνους for her life.

Any other information or unusual customs?

There are only 24 ὄνομα ἔθνους in Themiclesia. They represent the ancient 24 clans who built Themiclesia, and as these clans procreated, they came to be known as "races", or ἔθνος in Greek and gens in Latin. It is illegal to have any ὄνομα ἔθνους besides these 24. An immigrant family is integrated into one of these 24 via a lottery; one person within that race would symbolically "adopt" the father of that immigrating family, making it legally part of the race.
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Postby The Batorys » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:40 pm

Davisholm wrote:
  • What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
  • How are surnames inherited?
  • Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
  • Any other information or unusual customs?


The standard name title is unisex, and so doesn't really translate directly to English. It does not change depending on marriage.

There are a variety of surname customs in the Empire. In the central Empire, however, generally one's surname is inherited in some way from one's mother. This can be either a family name that stays the same through the generations, or it can be a matronym. As in, your last name would be your mother's name with either a prefix or suffix to designate you as a child of that woman.

In the central Empire, a woman's surname does not change when she marries, or at any other time. A man's might change, depending on the local custom, and the kind of family name his wife has. If it is a permanent family name, he might change his surname to that of his wife. If his wife's name is just a matronym, he will probably keep his own surname. When one marries a moroii woman, one always changes one's own surname to that of her clan.

Depending on the region, a man may add his wife's name to his surname, to specify both who his mother is and who his wife is. This is more common if it's an area where surnames are simply matronyms. In a few areas, the wife will also take her husband's name in addition to her existing surname as well, for the same reason.

Moroii clans, always (except in very, very rare cases) have the woman keep her clan name while the man changes his, as to marry a moroii woman is to join her clan. Moroii men change their clan names upon marriage.
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Postby Alsheb » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:52 pm

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation?

Comrade. Mr, Ms and Mrs are used as well, though uncommon. People can also be called by their function, especially when this function is political or military. Such a title is however also preceded by the word "comrade" (as in "Comrade Lieutenant" or "Comrade Provincial Party Secretary").

How are surnames inherited?

This is settled by the parents at the birth of the child. Upon reaching the age of majority, the person may opt to change to the other surname, or to adapt them both.

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?

No.

Any other information or unusual customs?

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Postby Auzkhia » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:06 pm

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
Herr/Frau/Fräulein or Signore/Signora/Signorina etc are used by commoners. Titles such as Lord (Freiherr), Baron, Count, Marquis, Prince, Duke, or King (and with female forms obviously) are only used by the nobility and cannot be bought or sold. Only a government can bestow upon or revoke titles.

How are surnames inherited?
Yes, usually from the father figure. But sometimes, the father is unknown so the child takes the mother's name.

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
It usually does when a female marries a male, but it's not legally required. It was expected for families when the mother takes the father's name. Most families are traditionally patriarchal.

Any other information or unusual customs?
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What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr,
Mrs, Miss)

YellowApplans typically use Mr. or Ms. when the gender is known; otherwise,
it is ommitted. Miss and Mrs. are typically reserved for very specific
casual circumstances, and are certainly not used in most formal settings.

How are surnames inherited?
This depends on the individual. Most opt for paternal inheritance of family
names. Many individuals (particularly those in equine ethnic groups) lack
surnames entirely. Other individuals use patronymic naming systems akin to
Icelandic (and most Scandinavian/Norse ethnic groups prior to their adoption
of family surnames).

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
It is entirely the decision of the spouses involved. Many women in hetero-
sexual marriages do adopt the husband's name, while others retain their
existing surnames; in some cases, both spouses will even exchange surnames
or combine them into a single surname (either through a simple concatenation
or hyphenation scheme or by adopting an entirely new surname). It really
depends on the individuals involved.

Any other information or unusual customs?
As mentioned above, family names aren't the only names used for surnames (if
a surname is even used at all).

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Postby Ourto » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:42 pm

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss) Senhor Senhora Senhorita (S. Sra. Seta.)
How are surnames inherited? Patrilinial
Does a woman's surname change when she marries? If she so elects, the man can change his surname too. Both can even create a new surname together.
Any other information or unusual customs? The government does not regulate naming practices here and legal names can be changed free of charge for the first two times.

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Postby Zaldakki » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:49 pm

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss) Monsieur, Madame, Mademoiselle (M, Mme, Mlle)
How are surnames inherited? Usually through the male line.
Does a woman's surname change when she marries? Usually, but it depends on her choice. Sometimes the genders may be switched.
Any other information or unusual customs? Basically what the French do

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Postby Bastarneia » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:05 pm

Davisholm wrote:
  • What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
  • How are surnames inherited?
  • Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
  • Any other information or unusual customs?

  1. Normal forms of address include:
    • Males: <given name> Κυριους <patronymic (or, rarely, surname)>
    • Married Females: <given name> Κυριου <patronymic (or, rarely, surname)>
    • Unmarried Females: <given name> Κυρι <patronymic (or, rarely, surname)>
    • Unmarried Females: Δεσποινα <given name> <patronymic (or, rarely, surname)>
    Note that these forms of address are subject to change depending on the rank of the person being addressed. Surnames are a rare occurrence in Bastarneia, as most families simply use patronymics or (less commonly) matronymics.
  2. Surnames are not common in Bastarneia, but in cases when they do occur, they are inherited from the father of the bearer. If the father is not known, the surname is inherited from the father of the bearer's mother.
  3. Women who have surnames do not have the option of taking their husband's surname upon marriage - to do so is akin to falsifying ancestry.
  4. As previously stated, surnames are generally not present in Bastarneian culture. Of those families which do have surnames, most of them mark descent from a specific individual (as in, descendents of...).
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Postby Kanoria » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:28 pm

2)In TL nations, Kanoria included, the common form of Surname is more akin to a genetic name. Every surname is made up of four syllables. A child takes the first and last syllable of each parent's name, with the last going as syllables 2 and 3 and the first as 1 and 4.

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Ego-Hjay-Ra-Day * Toe-Kah-Vo-Red
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Ego-Day-Red-Toe

The syllables taken are 1 and 2 from the mother if the child is female, and from the father if male.

I.e.

The girl with the surname Egodayredtoe had a mother with the surname Egohjayraday and a father with the surname Toekahvared.

3)A partnered person adds the prefix Bao to their surname, though the prefix is considered as a separate entity from the name.

4)First names for adults are achievement based, and granted based on a submitted choice of achievement or characteristic from adolescence or childhood. In childhood an 'intimate name' is chosen, and is used by all, once an adult name is given, only family members, and those given permission by the individuals are supposed to use this, though this is often ignored.

1)Titles are the general Sai (used by any unmarried person), Sin (used by any married person), Sol (used for addressing anyone close to you), Sii (honorific form for all), Sens (for a teacher, expert, or superior), and Sond (for the most honored tinkers, and people who improve on a subject or design by a large amount). There are also a number of role and education specific titles. Titles may also be granted, but they are not otherwise rewarded.
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Postby Hazamaeia » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:36 am

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)

You can use Kiv/Kival for men and Utaw for women.

How are surnames inherited?

Hazamaeians usually inherit their surname (either the father's name or the mother's maiden name) to at least one of their children.

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?

Yes

Any other information or unusual customs?

Many Hazamaeian surnames sometimes are unusually long. Examples: L.T. Entrenomolazeia (the current president), Z. Durkanilompamina (athlete), K. Alinsovlaritare (politician)
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Postby Brellach » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:53 am

  • What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
    Brellachi don't use titles.

  • How are surnames inherited?
    Brellachi surnames, where they are used, are inherited matrilineally (i.e. descent is traced through one's mother - the Brellachi consider this the only way to be 100% sure of one's heritage, as there is rarely any doubt as to who is one's mother).

  • Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
    No. It is more common for men to do so, in fact.

  • Any other information or unusual customs?
    Not all Brellachi use surnames, or at least not traditional surnames. Surnames are most commonly used in the southern regions. They are somewhat less commonly used in the western regions, where one more usually refers to one's mother (e.g. Farell, son of Jellis), while in the northern regions they are not used at all; northern Brellachi have a forename and a place of birth (e.g. Kel of Velk'ta).

    Tribes do not tend to use surnames at all, no matter where they tend to roam. When talking to outsiders (such as other tribes, or city-dwellers) they will refer to themselves by their given name, and the name of their tribe. Internally, they usually have only one name.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:30 am

Cyrzarii naming customs are rather complex.

Firstly a Cyrzarii has his or her given name, this is bestowed on the creature by the parents as is so in most cultures. However when the Cyrzarii comes of age he/she may take a chosen name this is what they will usually introduce themselves as and be registered under. A Cyrzarii is also given both a patronymic and matronymic, the patronymic is formed by adding 'razal' to the end of the father's chosen name and the matronymic by adding 'razu' to the mother's. Finally one will often adopt a rank name which is essentially just a series of titles bestowed on the gainer through whatever professions she/he advances in.

Example:

Meshok Zalkhaeris Reiynrazal-Fuhlasrazu Tyrakeiitethyrs*

*A High Ranking member of the Civil Service.

In regards to titles Tsyr and Thei are used for male and female respectively as terms of respect equivalent to "Sir" and "Madame". Mr and Mrs are not really used in Mackonian culture.
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Postby Arab Jamahiriyahs » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:42 am

Arabian way except no titles are used except "Rafiq" (Comrade), being a socialist country.
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Postby Margno » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:55 pm

Marginal naming conventions follow a three part structure : marginal name, Christian name, family name. (A.e. Sheth Starfire Young Creationists) the marginal name is whichever of the nicknames given to a marginal by their friends currently happens to be best known. There is no expectation that it will stay the same indefinitely, though some do. The Christian name is a serious, personal name adopted when one joins the marginals, usually self chosen or given by a best friend or mentor. It is retained throughout one's life. The family name, among marginals who practice anarchofamilialism, is the name of one's marginal family. Others usually omit the third name altogether (as in the case of Love Joy.) Many Philipists use Yalist (for royalist or loyalist) as a family name.
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Postby The Great Universe (Ancient) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:07 pm

The titles follow french forms:
Monsieur Callon, M. Callon. The full name would be "Monsieur Georges Callon."
Madame Callon, Mme Callon. The full name would be "Madame Véronique Callon Moulin," married women take their first names, their husband's surname and then their maiden name.
Mademoiselle Callon, Mlle Callon. The full name would be "Mademoiselle Germaine Callon."

Women take their husband's surname, which is customarily listed before their own. Children take their father's surname, unless their mother is unmarried, in which case, they take their mother's surname.

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Postby Auld Albion » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:36 am

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)

All men and women are entitled to Mr. or Mrs. and Miss. Titles of nobility such as Sir, Baron, Earl, Duke, and Prince are only allowed to the aristocracy of the nation.

How are surnames inherited?

Children inherit their father's surname. Or for cases of nobility children inherit their father's house name.

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?

Yes

Any other information or unusual customs?

In the Highlands people are part of a larger clan and which is different from their surname. For example - Duncan Tanner, Clan of MacCloud. It is similar to titles of nobility.

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Postby Eahland » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:43 pm

There's a lot of assumptions that don't necessarily apply in the initial post.

We don't have surnames. We have bynames, which are nicknames, descriptors (sometimes ironic), patronyms, matronyms, or other relationship descriptors (patronyms are by far the most common of those, though it's increasingly common for women to use matronyms instead). Bynames are not a formal, fixed part of identity. They're not inherited. (Though it's not uncommon among the Norþmenn to name their first son after his grandfather, which has the effect of causing both given names and patronyms to alternate, in opposite phase, over the generations.) They're generally given rather than taken, often change over time, and not infrequently differ among different social circles. Marriage is not generally a reason for bynames in use to change, though it'd add "[Ceorles]wif" or "[Wifes]ceorl" to potential bynames, though that would generally only be used by folk who know them only through their spouse.

We don't have "standard" titles, either. We have actual titles, which generally come after the given name rather than before, usually in place of bynames rather than in addition to, and if someone insists on addressing you by one that you don't have the right to, that's reason to be wary. They're probably trying to sell you something.

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Postby Olwe » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:24 am

What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)

People generally refer to each other by first name, but sometimes the nobility will be addressed as "Sir" (for knights) or "Lord" (for aristocrats).

How are surnames inherited?

A child uses their middle name in place of a surname until they come of age... then, they are allowed to choose either their mother's or father's last name (or, although this is very rarely done, keep using their middle name if they like it more).

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?

Not unless she wants it to (Duchess of Arcadia Secole Devincenzi took her husband's last name, but she's in a minority of about 1.5% of women who have done that here). Hyphenation of last names is all but unheard of, too... either you take all of your husband's last name, or none of it.

Any other information or unusual customs?

Other than what was already outlined above (which includes some pretty unusual customs), no.
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Postby The Silent Isles » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:06 pm

-What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)-

Peasants and commoners are not legally permitted to hold any titles, even ones as casual as Mr. or Mrs., most commoners are referred to primarily by first name, although certain high born commoners may use the titles "Master" and "Mistress." Low nobility have specific titles, with Hereditary and Appointed Knights entitled to the title "sir", and manorial Lords and Ladies are entitled to the the title "The Lord (insert full name here)"

How are surnames inherited?

Peasants and commoners of average birth do not have family names, and instead will take on a surname that denotes the name of their father or, in the case of females, their husband. For example, a man named Ægbar born to a man named Wízte would legally be titled "Ægbar adma Wítze." His wife, Ecgythbyrta, would be legally titled "Aeschylar øth Ægbar."
High born commoners and nobility up to the level of Baron have family names, for example, "The Lord Anarius Ohlem". Barons and nobles, including the royal family and the King himself, have Dynastic titles, along with their inherited titles. For example, the full title of the current King of The Silent Isles is as Follows:
His Most Gracious and Excellent Majesty, Aeschylus au Agapetos, Fourth of his Name of Dynasty Agapetos, High King of the Silent Isles, Lord Amongst Earls, Master of Barons, Hereditary Earl of Agapetos, Patriarch of the Gerousia, Sovereign Master of the Realm, Holy Defender of the Islefolk and of Their Territories, and Conquering Lion of The Sacred.
An example of a higher noble's title is as follows:
His Grace Adromedius au Ischyleon, of Dynasty Ischyleon, Duke of Ischyleon, Paramount Lord of the Scythe Isles, and Lord-Adviser to His Gracious Majesty

Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
Yes.

Any other information or unusual customs?
n/a

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Postby Tol Eresea » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:45 pm

• What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
As names in Tol Eresëa are gender-specific, Tol Eresëans find gender-based titles (Mr, Miss, Mrs) repetitive and as such there is no elven equivalent to these titles. There are, however, titles relating to nobility. These are: Master/Mistress (indor/i), Lord/Lady (heru/heri), Lord/Lady Commander (cáno/cáni), Duke/Duchess (Fanheru/massánië), and King/Queen (Haran/tári).

• How are surnames inherited?
Surnames in Tol Eresëa is the father's or mother's name depending on the gender of the child. For example, if Findecáno Narmolanya and his wife Finduilas Anwamanë had a son named Amras, his surname would be Findecáno. If they had a daughter named Linwë, her surname would be Finduilas.

• Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
No, it remains the same after marriage.

• Any other information or unusual customs?
In some regions of Tol Eresëa names are written in reverse order, parent's name first. For example, Findecáno Narmolanya may be written Narmolanya Findecáno in some regions - though he would be referred to as Findecáno, his given name. This is done to honour your parent, by placing them before yourself symbolically.
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Postby Walhammra » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:55 am

• What are the standard name titles that people have in your nation? (e.g. Mr, Mrs, Miss)
The only one considered needed is kamrat (comrade), which is used when formally referring to anyone else be they man or woman. It is also common to refer to people by their work titles.

• How are surnames inherited?
Every citizen has a a patronymical surname formed from their father's first name, and since the end of the 19th century it became mandatory to have a second surname, a family name. After the revolution it has become optional for children to take either parent's family name if they differ, but the father's is still the by far most common.

• Does a woman's surname change when she marries?
The patronymical surname does not, but after the naming reforms of the 19th century married women took their husband's family name. After the revolution this has become optional, as well as opening the possibility for husbands to take their wives names. Wives taking their husbands name remains the most common though.

• Any other information or unusual customs?
Historically soldiers used to be given a special 'soldier's name', which they were referred to officially while in service and which would be inherited by their successor upon their death or discharge. Many modern family names stem from these.
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