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Ferguson Riots Ceased?

Postby The Great Zedong Dynasty » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:46 pm

I want to know what's your opinion on the Ferguson riots and the aftermath. Should there have been a martial law enforcement on a vigil?
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Postby The Great Zedong Dynasty » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:49 pm

I think it's a shame that a vigil was interrupted by the police! That was disrespectful to the community!
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Postby Brissia » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:50 pm

What do you think, OP?
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Postby The Great Zedong Dynasty » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:50 pm

Brissia wrote:What do you think, OP?

It's a police state!
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Re: Ferguson Riots Ceased?

Postby Terra Sector Union » Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:53 pm

The Great Zedong Dynasty wrote:
Brissia wrote:What do you think, OP?

It's a police state!


Then keep it that way. Ferguson riots is another example of people abusing their freedoms.

Not the protests, the riots. I think Ferguson should be put under temporary military control with NG units deployed for the next few months.
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Postby Naedor » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:36 pm

What happened in Ferguson represents everything that is wrong in the United States. Policeman kills black man for no reason, people start complaining, police crackdown on anyone who complains.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:36 pm

Terra Sector Union wrote:
The Great Zedong Dynasty wrote:It's a police state!


Then keep it that way. Ferguson riots is another example of people abusing their freedoms.

Not the protests, the riots. I think Ferguson should be put under temporary military control with NG units deployed for the next few months.


Only if you're willing to let the residents of Ferguson emigrate at the government's cost.
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Postby North Arkana » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:38 pm

Naedor wrote:What happened in Ferguson represents everything that is wrong in the United States. Policeman kills black man for no reason, people start complaining, police crackdown on anyone who complains.

I think you meant, "police crack down on everyone who shoots at them, throws rocks, throws firebombs, sets stores on fire,and loots shops."
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Postby The BaRen » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:40 pm

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Naedor wrote:What happened in Ferguson represents everything that is wrong in the United States. Policeman kills black man for no reason, people start complaining, police crackdown on anyone who complains.

I think you meant, "police crack down on everyone who shoots at them, throws rocks, throws firebombs, sets stores on fire,and loots shops."

I think you meant, "Normal police shit."
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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:49 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Naedor wrote:What happened in Ferguson represents everything that is wrong in the United States. Policeman kills black man for no reason, people start complaining, police crackdown on anyone who complains.

I think you meant, "police crack down on everyone who shoots at them, throws rocks, throws firebombs, sets stores on fire,and loots shops."

Or, reports of such individuals are largely exaggerated while innocents continue to be brutally oppressed by the police because of their race and class. Look, I'll walk home at night and Richmond and feel fine, but I'll go the other way if I see a cop. People are fucking scared, and they have good reason to be.
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Postby Naedor » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:49 pm

North Arkana wrote:
Naedor wrote:What happened in Ferguson represents everything that is wrong in the United States. Policeman kills black man for no reason, people start complaining, police crackdown on anyone who complains.

I think you meant, "police crack down on everyone who shoots at them, throws rocks, throws firebombs, sets stores on fire,and loots shops."


They only started getting that rowdy after the authorities refused to listen to them.
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Postby CTALNH » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:39 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
The Great Zedong Dynasty wrote:It's a police state!


Then keep it that way. Ferguson riots is another example of people abusing their freedoms.

Not the protests, the riots. I think Ferguson should be put under temporary military control with NG units deployed for the next few months.

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Postby Skappola » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:43 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
The Great Zedong Dynasty wrote:It's a police state!


Then keep it that way. Ferguson riots is another example of people abusing their freedoms.

Not the protests, the riots. I think Ferguson should be put under temporary military control with NG units deployed for the next few months.

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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:44 am

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North Arkana wrote:I think you meant, "police crack down on everyone who shoots at them, throws rocks, throws firebombs, sets stores on fire,and loots shops."

Or, reports of such individuals are largely exaggerated while innocents continue to be brutally oppressed by the police because of their race and class. Look, I'll walk home at night and Richmond and feel fine, but I'll go the other way if I see a cop. People are fucking scared, and they have good reason to be.

When I'm out walking and see a cop I wave and if possible I'll talk to them for a while. I'm friends with several cops and after hearing about the crap they go through on a regular basis, its not surprising that they are paranoid and sometimes make bad decisions like that Ferguson cop did.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:46 am

Skappola wrote:
Terra Sector Union wrote:
Then keep it that way. Ferguson riots is another example of people abusing their freedoms.

Not the protests, the riots. I think Ferguson should be put under temporary military control with NG units deployed for the next few months.

NS General Units?

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Skappola wrote:NS General Units?

National Guard units

No, NS General Units are better.
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Postby Romalae » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:55 am

I recently overheard someone say that the Ferguson rioters would disperse once KFC decided to open up a franchise in town. I couldn't tell if it was a joke or serious racism, but I'm in Texas so take of that what you will.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:57 am

Romalae wrote:I recently overheard someone say that the Ferguson rioters would disperse once KFC decided to open up a franchise in town. I couldn't tell if it was a joke or serious racism, but I'm in Texas so take of that what you will.

I'm from the Houston area and yeah I've heard the same thing
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Postby Nortrom » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:06 am

I'm not an American and the thing that I remember the most is how militarized the American police has become. I'm not sure how powerful is it at the moment but, at least from my perspective it appears to be way too strong.

As for the Riots, they were justified because the police executed an alleged thief who had surrendered and wasn't even a threat.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:57 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Or, reports of such individuals are largely exaggerated while innocents continue to be brutally oppressed by the police because of their race and class. Look, I'll walk home at night and Richmond and feel fine, but I'll go the other way if I see a cop. People are fucking scared, and they have good reason to be.

When I'm out walking and see a cop I wave and if possible I'll talk to them for a while. I'm friends with several cops and after hearing about the crap they go through on a regular basis, its not surprising that they are paranoid and sometimes make bad decisions like that Ferguson cop did.
Sure, it is unsurprising that cops are paranoid, but with that knowledge that they are prone to making immediate and far-reaching judgements based solely on your appearance, it should also be unsurprising that many individuals have good reason to be terrified of the police. For me, I'm terrified because I'm transgender, an anarchist, suffering from mental illnesses, and have participated in rallies and protests against police brutality and institutionalized racism. I'm white and have a middle class background, so I have less reason to fear them than many others do, but I still have entirely legitimate reasons to be concerned for my safety around them.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:20 am

Threlizdun wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:When I'm out walking and see a cop I wave and if possible I'll talk to them for a while. I'm friends with several cops and after hearing about the crap they go through on a regular basis, its not surprising that they are paranoid and sometimes make bad decisions like that Ferguson cop did.
Sure, it is unsurprising that cops are paranoid, but with that knowledge that they are prone to making immediate and far-reaching judgements based solely on your appearance, it should also be unsurprising that many individuals have good reason to be terrified of the police. For me, I'm terrified because I'm transgender, an anarchist, suffering from mental illnesses, and have participated in rallies and protests against police brutality and institutionalized racism. I'm white and have a middle class background, so I have less reason to fear them than many others do, but I still have entirely legitimate reasons to be concerned for my safety around them.

If they were prone than why don't we hear more stories of cops killings blacks? Most cops will not shoot unless they are being attacked and most times they would resort to a tazer or baton. A cop won't know that you're an anarchist, suffering from mental illnesses, or have participated in rallies and protest, but they see someone that's looks threatening. I spend a lot of time a round the police and never have I felt threatened, why? Because I was doing nothing that would make them feel threatened or believe I was going to or have done something wrong.

Cops generally don't discriminate but rather they know that some groups of people are more prone to violence and committing crime, so they are a lot more paranoid around them. You it hear it much but when cops respond to a call or approach someone or pull someone over, they are scared, not knowing if the person will shoot them or stab them.
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Postby The 502nd SS » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:34 am

Nortrom wrote:I'm not an American and the thing that I remember the most is how militarized the American police has become. I'm not sure how powerful is it at the moment but, at least from my perspective it appears to be way too strong.

As for the Riots, they were justified because the police executed an alleged thief who had surrendered and wasn't even a threat.

He assaulted a store clerk and the PD's story says that the man attacked the officer and that there was a struggle for his piece.
Also that does not justify riots, looting, burning down stores, ect.
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Postby Anglo-California » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:36 am

Ferguson is what happens when you have "vibrant" communities.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:53 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Sure, it is unsurprising that cops are paranoid, but with that knowledge that they are prone to making immediate and far-reaching judgements based solely on your appearance, it should also be unsurprising that many individuals have good reason to be terrified of the police. For me, I'm terrified because I'm transgender, an anarchist, suffering from mental illnesses, and have participated in rallies and protests against police brutality and institutionalized racism. I'm white and have a middle class background, so I have less reason to fear them than many others do, but I still have entirely legitimate reasons to be concerned for my safety around them.

If they were prone than why don't we hear more stories of cops killings blacks? Most cops will not shoot unless they are being attacked and most times they would resort to a tazer or baton. A cop won't know that you're an anarchist, suffering from mental illnesses, or have participated in rallies and protest, but they see someone that's looks threatening. I spend a lot of time a round the police and never have I felt threatened, why? Because I was doing nothing that would make them feel threatened or believe I was going to or have done something wrong.

Cops generally don't discriminate but rather they know that some groups of people are more prone to violence and committing crime, so they are a lot more paranoid around them. You it hear it much but when cops respond to a call or approach someone or pull someone over, they are scared, not knowing if the person will shoot them or stab them.

We do hear stories about cops shooting blacks. The fact that you personally haven't heard them doesn't mean they haven't happened. Cops do shoot unarmed individuals because of biases leading them to presume the individual is a threat when they truly aren't. Your background gives you no reason to be afraid of cops, so of course you wouldn't be frightened around them. When you engage in activities that antagonize the police, they do start to remember you. I am friends with people who at rallies or protests are addressed by cops by name because they are familiar with them. Having a mental illness is not readily apparent, but it absolutely can be detected and abused in a high stress situation where I am directly being engaged. Cops do discriminate, and you are correct that they believe they are protecting themselves, but it is still discrimination. The increasing militarization of the police further alienates them from the population and serves to intensify discriminatory practices.
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Postby Agritum » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:35 pm

Anglo-California wrote:Ferguson is what happens when you have "vibrant" communities.

Ferguson happens "Vibrant".

Yeah, the NRxs are right: dissecting phrases to find cliquish memes is fun.
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