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Wisconsin Militia Plans To Intimidate Democratic Voters

Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:56 pm

The story.

An armed militia group in Wisconsin plans to confront people who signed the petition to recall Gov. Scott Walker (R) at the polls on Nov. 4.

The "Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia" will check the names of those on the petition and will then seek out the Democrats on that list, according to Facebook exchanges viewed by Politicus USA.


A picture of the exchanges can be found at the link.

The Facebook page for the militia has since been scrubbed.

The group plans to follow people from polling locations to their homes, according to a Facebook post viewed by The Capital Times.

"Please private message us names of people you know are active voters and wanted on warrants. We can get our agents to watch their polling location, identify the individual, and then follow them to their residence. A call the police and they will be picked up for processing," the Facebook message read.

The group is using the website Put Wisconsin First to identify petition signers who have outstanding arrest warrants and those with tax defaults.

According to Politicus USA, the Facebook page for the group featured pictures of African-Americans, but the group denied that they are targeting blacks.

"We can assure you that we will be targeting all democrats, not just black ones," a Facebook message read, according to the Capital Times. "If you think we meant blacks only it is because you are a racist who thinks the only people with warrants are black. We know better because we have a nice list of people who are wanted democrat activist types. Most are actually white. We will target everyone."


So, in other words, anyone who signed the petition to recall Walker, and might have a warrant or tax lien out on them, will be a target for armed individuals seeking to intimidate them and keep them from voting. Also, they're limiting this to Democrats, and despite their protests to the contrary, the pictures that they're using would seem to indicate that they're largely focusing on black voters.

They're not even trying to be subtle about this anymore. It's blatant voter intimidation. My hopes are that this is just another bluff by the fringe right, like the armed march through D.C. that never happened. I'm also pretty damned sure that this is against the law.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Not sure how following someone with an outstanding warrant and calling in their location is illegal.

Their actions are certainly disgusting.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:06 pm

Galloism wrote:Not sure how following someone with an outstanding warrant and calling in their location is illegal.

Their actions are certainly disgusting.


If it's done with the purpose of keeping them from the polls, it's illegal.

Wisconsin Statute 12.09(3)
(3) No person may personally or through an agent, by any act compel, induce, or prevail upon an elector either to vote or refrain from voting at any election for or against a particular candidate or referendum.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:06 pm

I almost hope these fucks decide to follow one of my parents home.
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Postby Lonesome Ghosts » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:08 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:I almost hope these fucks decide to follow one of my parents home.


And what are you going to do? IIRC, you're against guns and no doubt they will be armed.
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Postby Upper America » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:09 pm

Oh, Wisconsin. You pulled a shocker there. I thought Texas would do that. Sounds like one of those Middle eastern countries where people with guns threaten voters. Or what anti-abolitionists did to the African Americans when they wanted to vote.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:10 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Galloism wrote:Not sure how following someone with an outstanding warrant and calling in their location is illegal.

Their actions are certainly disgusting.


If it's done with the purpose of keeping them from the polls, it's illegal.

Wisconsin Statute 12.09(3)
(3) No person may personally or through an agent, by any act compel, induce, or prevail upon an elector either to vote or refrain from voting at any election for or against a particular candidate or referendum.

Ah.

Then I retract my previous statement.
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:10 pm

Lonesome Ghosts wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I almost hope these fucks decide to follow one of my parents home.


And what are you going to do? IIRC, you're against guns and no doubt they will be armed.

He'll post angrily about it here.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:11 pm

Lonesome Ghosts wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I almost hope these fucks decide to follow one of my parents home.


And what are you going to do? IIRC, you're against guns and no doubt they will be armed.

Against guns isn't exactly the way I'd put it, but even if I was completely against guns, there's the fact that my dad still has one.

But before that, I think the police would probably have something to say to a man who followed a person home and stood outside their house with a firearm.
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Keep being assbackwards and supporting totalitarianism Wisconsin militia /s
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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:13 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Lonesome Ghosts wrote:
And what are you going to do? IIRC, you're against guns and no doubt they will be armed.

He'll post angrily about it here.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:14 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Galloism wrote:Not sure how following someone with an outstanding warrant and calling in their location is illegal.

Their actions are certainly disgusting.


If it's done with the purpose of keeping them from the polls, it's illegal.

Wisconsin Statute 12.09(3)
(3) No person may personally or through an agent, by any act compel, induce, or prevail upon an elector either to vote or refrain from voting at any election for or against a particular candidate or referendum.

The clear response, then, would be for police officers to attend their local polling stations with pictures of these militiamen and ask people to report their presence so the officers can question them about voter intimidation.
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Postby ODMS Babel » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:15 pm

They are using fear to force their views on the people. They are terrorists. Have Homeland Security arrest them and send them to Gitmo like we do all other terrorists.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:16 pm

Wisconsin Militia, quit making people who own guns look bad.
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Postby Lonesome Ghosts » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:16 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Lonesome Ghosts wrote:
And what are you going to do? IIRC, you're against guns and no doubt they will be armed.

Against guns isn't exactly the way I'd put it, but even if I was completely against guns, there's the fact that my dad still has one.

But before that, I think the police would probably have something to say to a man who followed a person home and stood outside their house with a firearm.


But he might remain in his car and just conduct surveillance from a distance.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:17 pm

I'd be willing to bet it's a fake 'group', with no actual intention of doing such things as they are supposedly detailed as planning. IE: Facebook idiocy.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:18 pm

Lonesome Ghosts wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Against guns isn't exactly the way I'd put it, but even if I was completely against guns, there's the fact that my dad still has one.

But before that, I think the police would probably have something to say to a man who followed a person home and stood outside their house with a firearm.


But he might remain in his car and just conduct surveillance from a distance.

And then do... what, exactly?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:18 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:I'd be willing to bet it's a fake 'group', with no actual intention of doing such things as they are supposedly detailed as planning. IE: Facebook idiocy.


Entirely possible that it's nothing more than talk, but still something to keep an eye on just in case.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:19 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Wisconsin Militia, quit making people who own guns look bad.

Wisconsin fucknuts, please stop making Wisconsinites look bad.
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Postby Drake Isle » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:19 pm

Shit. And I planned on moving to Wisconsin eventually.

If they are following them home and threatening to call the police on them if they vote, isn't that classed as Black Mail?
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Postby Upper America » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:21 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Wisconsin Militia, quit making people who own guns look bad.

Wisconsin fucknuts, please stop making Wisconsinites look bad.

Wisconsin militia, quit making humanity look bad. This is why aliens won't talk to us.
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Postby Death Metal » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:23 pm

Ah right-wing militias. If you had been around in 1776, you'd all be redcoats.
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Death Metal wrote:Ah right-wing militias. If you had been around in 1776, you'd all be redcoats.

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Postby Cylarn » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:26 pm

Let the FBI round up the leaders of the movement.

I've got no problem with the principle of militias; in fact, as someone who has studied the concept of citizen-soldiery, I feel like a politically-neutral militia can be beneficial to society, even in this modern age. However, it's the politically-partisan militia movements that are troubling, no matter what the government does.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:28 pm

Death Metal wrote:Ah right-wing militias. If you had been around in 1776, you'd all be redcoats.

By definition militias serving for the British Army would have dressed in much the same manner as militia in the American Army. Meaning a decided lack of 'redcoats', that being the mark of a regular troop rather than British auxiliaries.
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