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Pola
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Ex-Nation

Allowed to Burn a Flag in your Nation?

Postby Pola » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:37 am

Are protesters in your nation allowed to burn the flag of your nation,
and the nation above you, and Why?


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Ninia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Ninia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:44 am

-Yeah it's allowed to burn the Ninian flag,
but only in anti-government protests.
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Themiclesia
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:47 am

It is permitted to burn the flag, but itself is an illegal possession for a civilian; the flag is the royal standard.
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Xekliv
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Postby Xekliv » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:49 am

Burning the imperial flag is considered a threat to the empire, and it punished on charges of treason.
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:54 am

On the other hand, if we're playing a "nation-above" style game, this might be better placed in F7.
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Lancov
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Postby Lancov » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:55 am

Protestors can burn the flag of any nation they please, it is a protected speech activity.
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Auzkhia
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Postby Auzkhia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:58 am

Yes, it is allowed. Burning is actually the only proper way to dispose of a flag. It is insolent to place one in a waste receptacle.
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Freemopia
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Postby Freemopia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:59 am

Yes. It's not hurting anyone, except maybe the person who inhales the smoke. they have the right to be allowed to inhale toxic fumes.

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New Connorstantinople
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Postby New Connorstantinople » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:59 am

The ability for protesters to burn flags is protected under free speech. The LSR flag is not easily set alight however.
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The United Kingdoms of Austinarya
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Postby The United Kingdoms of Austinarya » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:01 pm

you are not allowed to burn any flags unless it belongs to the EU, communists or ISIS
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Allector
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Postby Allector » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:02 pm

Yes, flag burning regardless of which nation the flag originates from is protected under free speech laws within Allector.
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Balshvik
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Postby Balshvik » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:03 pm

The United Kingdoms of Austinarya wrote:you are not allowed to burn any flags unless it belongs to the EU, communists or ISIS

Im with you on that. Can a NATO flag be burned too?
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The Fascist American Empire
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:03 pm

Flag burning is acceptable, if it is a foreign flag. Not if it is that of the Empire.

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Pandeeria
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Postby Pandeeria » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:03 pm

A. It's illegal to protest
B. It's illegal to burn our flag
C. It's illegal to own a foreign nation's flag
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Neo Rome Republic
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Founded: Dec 27, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:04 pm

It is forbidden to burn the flags of the Nation. Doing so will result in criminal charges and a jail sentence.
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United Provinces of Atlantica
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:05 pm

Flag desecration is legal, in the interests of free speech.
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Blakullar
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Postby Blakullar » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:13 pm

Burning any flag is technically legal in the Mechanocracy, and desecrating foreign flags is actively encouraged - especially those that represent values in opposition to our own (peace emblems, Nazi swastikas, religious symbols, etc.), such as the above's. Though it is not recommended to burn our flag, or any other flag that represents communism/socialism/that kind of thing. That will just get you killed or seriously hurt, because our citizens are extremely patriotic (partly because of Russians' long association with nationalism and partly because of indoctrination from an early age).
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Kington Langley
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Postby Kington Langley » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:15 pm

It is legal to burn the flag of Kington Langley as a form of protest. However, out of respect to the international community, it is illegal to burn the flags of other nations.
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Postby Themiclesia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:17 pm

Kington Langley wrote:It is legal to burn the flag of Kington Langley as a form of protest. However, out of respect to the international community, it is illegal to burn the flags of other nations.

This adequately describes our policy with burning foreign flags. Normally it's permitted, but may be temporarily barred as it may be offensive to other nations, or heads of state (cf. lese-majeste)
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Saurisisia
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Postby Saurisisia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:41 pm

Officially, there are no laws regarding the burning of the flags of Saurisia and allied and friendly states in the act of protest but it's extremely looked down upon; even the burning of enemy nations' flags is forbidden. Saurisians regard burning any flag outside of getting rid of an old, tattered one to be utterly barbaric.
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Greater Mackonia
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:53 pm

If it is not the Mackonian Flag it is celebrated...there is even a Flag-Burners guild who organise flag burnings against enemy nations, they are an extremely influential group in Mackonia.

Burning the Mackonian Flag? Like most things in Greater Mackonia it is not illegal per se but is a quick way to get a contract put on your head.
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United States of The One Percent
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Postby United States of The One Percent » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:55 pm

Though not codified in law, Usians are generally allowed to burn flags, as well as to assault people who are burning flags. Flag burning is one of the many festering controversies We encourage in order to keep Our peasants citizens angry at something other than the fact We control nearly every significant aspect of their lives. Recently there have been violent debates over proposed laws and regulations allowing Usians to burn any flag any politician has wrapped him or herself in.
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Arcturus Novus
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Arcturus Novus » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:03 pm

It is legal to burn the Eight-Pointed Star, so long as the flames remain in a containable condition.
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Pey
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Postby Pey » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:24 pm

Accusing or bringing shame to the flag is seen as freedom of speech. However, harming or defacing a flag is treated as treason.
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Greater Weselton
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Postby Greater Weselton » Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:26 pm

It is illegal to burn our flag due to us being fascist. It is legal to burn the flag of Pey since they are not an ally.
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