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Cormac Resigns as Osiris Delegate

Postby The Runes » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:29 pm

Cormac has resigned as Osiris Delegate due to Real Life constraints.

Currently Alexa, Joshua,Treize and Zaolat are running for the delegacy.

More to come when I'm not so exhausted...


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In its efforts not to look like the oppressive dictatorship many have accused it of being, Lazarus is in the process of purging the host of their forums. After Hobbes made fairly supportive comments about independentism, Funkedelia moved unilaterally to amend the constitution in order to change forums and remove Hobbes as the host. This represents but the latest of moves by Lazarus in order to stamp out any hint of ideological differences, in particular sympathy with independents and democracy.

Furthermore, a former citizen of Lazarus discussed in length in a regional newspaper how Lazarus had been engaging in the suppression of forum posts via their destruction as well as the ejection of Funkadelia's Vice Llamas for supporting democracy. Now, it has been stated by Government members of Lazarus that this was done because they were operating in secret. However, a current and long-term citizen of the region had something else to say:

I'm fed up with the political bull**** in Laz though. I've been a citizen of Lazarus for quite a long time now. I've always enjoyed the region, and the people in it. But these recent events are nothing but outright political bull****. Several citizens were all but absolutely forced to leave because they advocated for more democracy and although the official line was "It was because it was done in secret", they actually were operating quite plainly. They were ultimately shown the door simply because they didn't conform to the chairman


What has become increasingly clear, is that Osiris' deliberations on declaring war with Lazarus has brought a spotlight to a region whose leaders actions have previously gone unnoticed. It is a regime which is squandering its potential by engaging in political actions that are geared towards reducing diversity and removing young members from government with differing opinions. These are all geared towards political dominance and authoritarianism rather than the pledged "benevolent dictatorship" promised by its constitution. A dictatorship based on imposing fear and paranoia and the suppression of the "communitys popular will" despite this popular will being a key part in the constitution.

Milograds revolution has taken a rather unfortunate and frightful turn for the citizenry of Lazarus.
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Postby Unibot III » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:31 pm

A "former citizen" ? Anonymous shit-posting!?
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Postby Funkadelia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:33 pm

I think if this purge were true Evil Wolf would have lost his citizenship long ago and we wouldn't have an embassy with Lone Wolves United :)
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Postby North East Somerset » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:33 pm

As a former Cabinet Minister of Lazarus, purged by the PRL, I can only send my sympathies to the latest batch of victims. Ikania, Llamas, etc. Although they did have more of an idea what they were signing up for.
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Postby PrussianEmpire » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:34 pm

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Postby Alterran Republic » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:34 pm

As accurately predicted, this has given the OFO great propaganda material. Good job Funk and Feux.
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Postby Hobbesistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:34 pm

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Re: Lazarus Purges Hobbes

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:35 pm

Given that this lacks some pretty vital information -- I'm not sure if Lazarus has made this information public; I was contacted for my technical knowledge -- perhaps people shouldn't be so quick to jump on either party.

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Postby Rimhpen » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:38 pm

This reminds me of something... hmmm... couldn't be the purge of Osiris' military away from the Cerebellas to a more Malice friendly directorate...could it? nope no no

no no no no :P

Why wasn't there more coverage of the drama in the Osiris military?

Also, Lone Wolves United and the LWU forums are dead so not really much of a point there, but I guess it is a nice stuffed animal to point to.

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Postby Solorni » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:45 pm

Unibot III wrote:A "former citizen" ? Anonymous shit-posting!?

Evidently, citizens don't not feel comfortable posting their opinions publicly and freely as they do in most regions.
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Postby North East Somerset » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:47 pm

Not really very surprising considering what happens to most dissenters...
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Postby Captain Apollo » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:53 pm

North East Somerset wrote:Not really very surprising considering what happens to most dissenters...

Oh yes, because UIAF command is full of differing opinions and ideologies.

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Postby Rimhpen » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:55 pm

Captain Apollo wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:Not really very surprising considering what happens to most dissenters...

Oh yes, because UIAF command is full of differing opinions and ideologies.


ding! ding! ding! We have a winner! :P

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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:58 pm

* Osiris severs diplomatic relations
* Osiris declares war
* Lazarus purges its citizens
* Lazarus must find new forums


So... Osiris won?
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Postby Rimhpen » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:00 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:* Osiris severs diplomatic relations
* Osiris declares war
* Lazarus purges its citizens
* Lazarus must find new forums


So... Osiris won?


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Postby Hobbesistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Rimhpen wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:* Osiris severs diplomatic relations
* Osiris declares war
* Lazarus purges its citizens
* Lazarus must find new forums


So... Osiris won?


Does NES pay you in dollars or dog biscuits?

Who are you again?

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Postby Tano » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Rimhpen wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:* Osiris severs diplomatic relations
* Osiris declares war
* Lazarus purges its citizens
* Lazarus must find new forums


So... Osiris won?


Does NES pay you in dollars or dog biscuits?

>>trying to suggest Todd is somehow an imperial puppet
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>>Fail :rofl:
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Postby Xoriet » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Rimhpen wrote:ding! ding! ding! We have a winner! :P

So, whose puppet-in-bad-taste are you again? Or do we not get to meet the player behind the puppet?
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Postby Solorni » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:02 pm

Captain Apollo wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:Not really very surprising considering what happens to most dissenters...

Oh yes, because UIAF command is full of differing opinions and ideologies.

Generally, we don't compare an entire GCR to the command of an army. Generally.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:03 pm

I'm just confused. Lazarus didn't want to look like a dictatorship, so its delegate decided to act like a dictator and unilaterally change the constitution and expel a citizen and effectively remove their forums?

I'm kind of not following this.
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Postby Kogvuron » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:03 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Rimhpen wrote:ding! ding! ding! We have a winner! :P

So, whose puppet-in-bad-taste are you again? Or do we not get to meet the player behind the puppet?

I think it's Nephmir spelled backwards.
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Postby Onderkelkia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:03 pm

Captain Apollo wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:Not really very surprising considering what happens to most dissenters...

Oh yes, because UIAF command is full of differing opinions and ideologies.

The UIAF is a military organisation, not a democracy. It is bound to follow and enact the foreign policies of the three regions it represents.

So UIAF officers do not follow personal ideology. They follow the policies and interests of the governments that empower the UIAF.

That obligation is what guarantees democratic processes, and political control of foreign policy and military action, within the UIAF regions themselves.



On the other hand, political expression within the UIAF regions is extremely good. All three regions have freedom of speech and constitutional protections.

That does not mean there is a wide variety of views, but unlike Lazarus dissenters (that is people holding different political views) are not purged.
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Postby District XIV » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:03 pm

inb4 second revolution

I mean... uh... :p
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Postby Karpathos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:04 pm

Rimhpen wrote:This reminds me of something... hmmm... couldn't be the purge of Osiris' military away from the Cerebellas to a more Malice friendly directorate...could it? nope no no

no no no no :P

Why wasn't there more coverage of the drama in the Osiris military?

Also, Lone Wolves United and the LWU forums are dead so not really much of a point there, but I guess it is a nice stuffed animal to point to.


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Re: Lazarus Purges Hobbes

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:04 pm

Anybody who thinks new forums are being created in response to political dissidence, the conference, or Osiris' declaration of war doesn't know what they're talking about. Save yourselves the embarrassment and just wait for all the details to come out.

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