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Applebania
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Postby Applebania » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:26 pm

Lazaruswillwinthiswar wrote:The region has been passworded now, all hope is lost for Panem. Pass a liberation again?


I'm pretty sure the SC is sick and tired of all this. GG, TBH, GG.
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District XIV
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:30 pm

Applebania wrote:
Lazaruswillwinthiswar wrote:The region has been passworded now, all hope is lost for Panem. Pass a liberation again?


I'm pretty sure the SC is sick and tired of all this. GG, TBH, GG.

Yup; I'm not going through with this again. GG indeed.

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Lazaruswillwinthiswar
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Postby Lazaruswillwinthiswar » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:31 pm

District XIV wrote:
Applebania wrote:
I'm pretty sure the SC is sick and tired of all this. GG, TBH, GG.

Yup; I'm not going through with this again. GG indeed.

Well I suppose that as long as you keep your WA and nations there you're not giving up.

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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:33 pm

Lazaruswillwinthiswar wrote:
District XIV wrote:Yup; I'm not going through with this again. GG indeed.

Well I suppose that as long as you keep your WA and nations there you're not giving up.

Yeah, they'll have to be there for a little while... slowly, one by one, ejecting nations with pools of influence.

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Postby Jakker » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:44 am

Lazaruswillwinthiswar wrote:The region has been passworded now, all hope is lost for Panem. Pass a liberation again?


The password in place was the one Raven left on when the Liberation was originally passed. And he stated:

Signs wrote: I promised other natives to not do that and I'd like to keep my promises.


Not to do that meaning give away the password to others, which is why the Liberation arose in the first place. If he goes against his word now and tells others the password in the hopes that a liberation can occur, he will not only be going back against his word, but also showing the SC that he has truly wasted all of the SC's time. Such a fun turn of events right? ;)
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Postby Louisistan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:27 am

I'm curious, would this be counted as another great victory for Gatesville?
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Postby Chester Pearson » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:21 am

How the fuck as AVP able to password the region already? There is no way he could have accumulated that much influence so quickly....

Has the amount of influence required for a password been significantly lowered?
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Postby Wrapper » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:43 am

Chester Pearson wrote:How the fuck as AVP able to password the region already? There is no way he could have accumulated that much influence so quickly....

Has the amount of influence required for a password been significantly lowered?

Jakker wrote:The password in place was the one Raven left on when the Liberation was originally passed.

I know almost nil about this aspect of the game, so this may be a silly question -- when a passworded region is liberated and then the liberation is repealed, does it revert to the previous password? At least, that's what I'm inferring from Jakker's statement.

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Postby Jakker » Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:56 pm

And to think all of this was caused because Raven didn't want to tell people that the password was "030."

Thank you to the SC again for all their help on the raid!
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Postby Chester Pearson » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:07 pm

Jakker wrote:And to think all of this was caused because Raven didn't want to tell people that the password was "030."


Inventive password. I am guessing you have changed it since?
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Postby District XIV » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:09 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:
Jakker wrote:And to think all of this was caused because Raven didn't want to tell people that the password was "030."


Inventive password. I am guessing you have changed it since?

Or removed it...? :P

(they did)
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Postby Goddess Relief Office » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:23 pm

Jakker wrote:Thank you to the SC again for all their help on the raid!


To be fair to the SC, if you actually read through this entire debate thread and the original Liberate resolution. A lot of SC regulars were against it and expressed doubts about it. It was all spearheaded by one person only - District XIV. If anything, he's the one you should thank.
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GA#053 - Epidemic Response Act
GA#163 - Repeal LOTS
GA#223 - Transboundary Water Use Act

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SC#030 - Commend 10000 Islands (co-author)
SC#044 - Commend Texas (co-author)
SC#066 - Repeal "Liberate Wonderful Paradise"
SC#108 - Liberate South Pacific
SC#135 - Liberate Anarchy (co-author)
SC#139 - Repeal "Liberate South Pacific"

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Postby Signs » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:24 am

Jakker wrote:And to think all of this was caused because Raven didn't want to tell people that the password was "030."

Thank you to the SC again for all their help on the raid!


The strength of a secret password is not in its length, it's in the fact that it's secret ;)

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Postby Louisistan » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:08 am

Signs wrote:
Jakker wrote:And to think all of this was caused because Raven didn't want to tell people that the password was "030."

Thank you to the SC again for all their help on the raid!


The strength of a secret password is not in its length, it's in the fact that it's secret ;)

That is untrue. Ever heard of brute force?
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