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Besides generally making incendiary comments at anybody expressing viewpoints which don't cast Russia as pure evil, this is the second time he's posted this in the same topic.
by OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:37 pm
by Farnhamia » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:19 pm
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21457485#p21457485
Besides generally making incendiary comments at anybody expressing viewpoints which don't cast Russia as pure evil, this is the second time he's posted this in the same topic.
by Lyttenburg » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:43 am
Occupied Deutschland wrote:That's exactly what they want you to think.
I'm sure RT will provide us with the truth. MH17 probably crashed into his house after being shot down by a Ukrainian SU-25 and his body is just now being discovered.
Occupied Deutschland wrote:What a ridiculous notion.
It could also be 'Russophobic propaganda by the Western 'free and fair'(tm) media'.
Jeez, Lemanrussland, you Westerners are so quick to assume there is only one reason Russia is special and ineligible for criticism.
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Well it's obvious the current Kaliningrad government couldn't be trusted to conduct such a referendum. The Bundeswehr would have to occupy the area and then conduct the referendum. German passport, of course, being the identification used to allow a person to vote.
Occupied Deutschland wrote:So Russia invaded Eastern Ukraine under the pretext of Humanitarian aid.
Well paint me purple and call me the fucking Grimace, what shock and surprise.
Occupied Deutschland wrote:1) It's a CHOCOLATE-COVERED CONFECTIONARY CONSPIRACY COMRADES!
2) Are bousinesses what the bourgeoise own?
Edit: For awesome alliteration addition!
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Stop! Corroborate or listen
That's bullshit of a classic rendition
Relyin', on a logical fallacy
William of Ockham bitch-slapped in the fourteenth century,
Yo - we don't know,
and we need to know more.
But such a conspiratorial proceeding is implausible.
Especially with the evidence we have available.
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Banderist Ukrainian scum obviously used the power of Hitler-worship to increase performance of SU-25.
Banderist couped-in government's military does not need radar or targeting. The innocence of their victims draws their fire better than any targeting system on Earth could hope to.
Service ceiling whilst in possession of Banderist Ukrainian scum intent on murdering innocents in between praising Hitler and serving the Israelo-Zionist conspiracy: 10,000 m
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Of course not. Clearly the Sukhoi performance statements are incorrect. The power of the neo-Nazi banderist Ukrainian pilot's will and their desire to kill innocents allowed him/her to exceed the maximum operating ceiling.
That's a much more plausible explanation.
Alternative response:FUCKING DUH!
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Impossible. To echo the words of American crypto-fascist Congressman Harry Reid, 'the border is secure'. Brave citizens and soldiers of the Russian Federation, spearheaded by their peace-loving leaders, have stepped up to prevent any kind of smuggling or border-crossing incidents between Ukraine and Russia. How one could possibly even put a shred of belief in some insane Banderist allegation of vehicles crossing the border is ridiculous.
by Lyttenburg » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:02 am
by Farnhamia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:36 am
Lyttenburg wrote:Bump.
What, not actionable? If so, then just say so. Listing reasons would be also appreciated.
Lyttenburg wrote:During the presidential inaugiration of Poroshenko soldier fainted and dropped his carabine. And now more epic weirdess! During a church service his own son lost conscience!
Coincidence? Or the sign from the Above?
Lyttenburg wrote:A very enlightening article about one of the most notorious Ukrainian "volunteer batallions" Aidar:
24 Hours in 'Happiness': A Battle-Scarred Town in UkraineSHCHASTYA, Ukraine — The town of Shchastya or ‘Happiness,’ lies just ten miles from Luhansk, the most shelled and lawless city of the conflict in Ukraine. It has served as a frontline for Ukrainian forces since June, when the town was taken by the notorious Aidar volunteer battalion. Since then, Aidar has set up base in a former police academy in the northern part of the town...
With what seemed almost like glee, they described the perilous operation they carried out to carve out a vital corridor to Luhansk airport. The 500-strong battalion has suffered more losses than any other volunteer formation: 23 men were killed in the fighting for the airport alone. And the battle for Luhansk itself, currently underway, looks like it will prove even costlier.The Aidar forces are a colorful cross-section of Ukrainians, motivated by a mix of patriotism, a revolutionary spirit and a hatred of Putin's Russia. Lumped together in this battalion of fighters are liberal, intellectual Maidan activists, far-right football fanatics and other oddballs from all across the country. The battalion also boasts an international contingent that includes Russians, Armenians and Belarusians. One of the fighters told me that two Canadians volunteered for a while, though “they might have been Swedish.”
A Chechen called Ruslan Arsayev is another member of this motley crew. A veteran of six military campaigns, he comes from a family of Chechen warriors. One brother was an official in the de facto government in Chechnya during the late 90s and another brother took part in the hijacking of a Russian plane en route to Turkey. Two people were killed during the hijacking.Since they took over the town, the anarchic Aidar fighters have developed a strained relationship with local residents. There have been reports of looting, summary arrests and worse. Some locals say that Aidar forces were responsible for the killing of a family of three whose naked bodies they say were recently found in the street. In a place swirling with propaganda, it was hard to establish whether this claim was actually true. (A town official said that only one civilian has been killed during the entire time of fighting.)
It was clear, though, that looting was taking place: the cars parked at the Aidar base were a bit of a give-away. Evgeny Dikhy, a soft-spoken former biology lecturer, called it a “wartime necessity,” though he seemed uneasy with that thought.As morning broke, a group of pensioners appeared in a ghost-like huddle outside of the base. Their presence alarmed some of the more excitable Aidar soldiers, who warned that speaking with them would end badly. They needn't have worried: the pensioners hadn’t come to protest but to ask for handouts at the barracks. Living so near the frontlines, they had not received pensions for more than a month, they said, and had little choice but to come begging for help. At about 10 am, a car emerged from the base with a boot-full of emergency rations.“Please don’t focus on the negative,” said Vladimir Tyurin, the town’s deputy mayor, who had arrived at the base to help coordinate the food distribution. While Tyurin admitted there were serious problems in town, he insisted nothing was “catastrophic.” The pensioners, he said, “aren’t quite as starving as they say.”
Shortly after, a Chevrolet pockmarked by bullet holes pulled up on screeching tires. Amid great commotion, the rear doors swung open and two fighters jumped out. A shirtless and handcuffed man was dragged into the base.
Tyurin watched motionless. There were reasons why he might have felt uneasy: in June he was himself arrested by masked Aidar fighters, and spent almost three weeks in captivity. After that inauspicious start, Tyurin said relations were “improving.”According to the guard, a man who identified himself as Roman Abramenko, Aidar had taken a total of about 100 prisoners of war into the Schastya base. Of the 22 being held while I was there, two were identified as Russian volunteers; the vast majority were locals from Luhansk.
The last line of the article is so hilarious!“My patriotism is stronger than any fear,” said Bohdan Prihodovsky, a young fighter. “The Russians are motivated by cash — we are motivated by freedom.”
Is it a way to say "Kolomoyski Is too greedy to pay us"?
P.S.
Україна непереможна! Смерть ворохам!
by Lyttenburg » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:02 am
by Lyttenburg » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:50 am
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Imperialism means that you're imposing your rule on someone else. From the polls that I've been seeing, most of the Crimeans heavily support union with Russia. One shouldn't forget that if Putin didn't have the support that he had in Crimea, he wouldn't have gone for it. Crimea was bloodlessly annexed, and I've yet to see anything like that pulled off without majority support.
by Occupied Deutschland » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:03 am
Lyttenburg wrote:Third strike.Occupied Deutschland wrote:And yet from the polls I've seen (from before the Russian occupation, not from Russia Today, and actually even published by the Russian Human Rights Council itself), your talking out of your ass.
Of course, that's also conveniently ignoring Russian invasions in Eastern Ukraine to support the 'rebels'.Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.
Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.
Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.
Take up the Slavic Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
by Dread Lady Nathicana » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:40 am
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