IFC task Force Strategy Meeting (OOC)

[Valaran]

Ok new thread then so we don't clog up the IFA main one.


Assistance request: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=21103032#p21103032


War IC: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=279536&start=850

[Valaran]

Cool, I'll get a list running.

Current Contributions to the IFA task Force:

Valaran: 5,000 men, an armored reserve force, naval support and transport, air support
In total the current deployment by the Valaran Empire was as follows:

Naval Assets:



The Aircraft Carrier Telmar,
2 Missile Cruisers,
1 Destroyer,
20 Supply Ships


Ground Assets:


5,000 VRF soldiers, drawn from the 18th division,
200 APCs,
75 Abraham MKII Tanks,
56 Special forces operatives



Aerial assets (2nd Air wing):


2 squadrons of F35s (24 planes)
1 squadron of F22 raptors (12 planes)
1 detachment of aircraft with other duties (such as communications, refueling, electronic warfare, etc)
6 C17s
12 C130s
6 Predator Drones
8 Observation Drones



Novo Wagondia: 7,100 men, 1 Clemenceau Class Carrier (with attached aircraft), 3 Mercer class attack Carriers
Land
-7,100 ground troops from the 17th Infantry Divison

Sea
-1x Clemenceau class Aircraft Carrier
-3x Mercer class Helicopter Carrier
-2x Simpson class Cruisers
-5x Isabel class Guided Missile Destroyer
-2x Marechal Rondon class Helicopter Training Ship [Converted to serve as Medical Vessels]
-1x Rio Branco Class Oceangoing Tanker Ship, to resupply coalition forces
-9x Nabuco Class Amphibious Assault Hovercraft
-18x supply ships of the Wagain Merchant Marine

Air
-60x Harrier Attack Aircraft
-12x Seahawk Helicopters
-6x Sea Knight Helicopters
-50x GU-14 Chiu Carrier Attack Aircraft


Vanitan: 7,500 men, 5 aircraft carriers, 250 aircraft (mainly F16s).

Bratislav: 12,000 men (300 Military Advisors, 700 Special Forces, 11,000 Ground Troops), significant Aerial support

Globus: 1 x Hospital Ship, 2 x Phlegethon Class Missile Frigate (hospital ship escort), 1500 x Special Forces (to find and escort refugees, arriving via friendly airfield)

Guerro: 1 Whaleshark aircraft carrie, with 25 Condor Type Multirole fighters, 25 Gewt Type Ground Attack planes. 3 Runtel aircraft carrier (15 Condor each, 20 Gewt total) 8 Guided Missile cruisers, Maresen class (For naval combat and anti air). 4 Heavy Cruisers (Will provide naval bombardment if needed, and for naval combat)

Aragon Francho: 4,000 ground forces, 48 planes (8 F-22 raptors, 10 Rafael fighter fighter jets. 25 Dassault Mirage multi-role jets and 5 Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk stealth ground-attack aircraft)

Ceneria: 2 Stormwyte-class Assault Carriers (each with 27 Hydra multi-role helicopters), 82 Raidhfil II Armoured Mobile Artillery System, CNS Eyrie (hospital ship) -all under Valaran/Cenerian/Bratislavan command. And Extensive deployment of transport aircraft for general use. Finally, two Cenerian Dragonfish-class Attack Submarines .

Flardnaia:
Land
-4,700 Troops from the 105th Infantry Division
150 Spec Ops from Shadow Valkyrie Triangulum Platoon
15x Bushmaster Protected Mobility Vehicle

Sea
-1x Ford class Aircraft Carrier (U.G.K Andromeda)
-3x DDH-183 class Helicopter Carrier
-2x Simpson class Cruisers
-5x Izumo class Destroyer
-2x EMS Ships [Humanitarian]
-9x Mitsubishi Class Amphibious Assault Vehicle
-7x supply ships of the Flardanian Merchant Marine

Air
-44x F-16 Fighting Falcon
-12x Boeing AH-64 Apache Helicopters
-4x Kawasaki OH-1 Helicopters
-7x CH-47 Chinook


Zunkwentania: 4,000 troops, 10 helicopters, 90 F-1 fighter jets, and 2 aircraft carriers


Republic of Vietnam: 5,100 infantry soldiers, an armored battalion and naval support (a Sài Gòn-class aircraft carrier, 1 Hai Phong-class helicopter carrier, 6 Trần Quang Khải-class frigates &4 An Giang-class attack submarines)

New Carloso: Too Lazy to write it out so here...
1 New Carlingford class super carrier "New Carlingford"
3 Missile Cruisers
2 Frigates
21 Supply Ships

6, 400 soldiers
200 "Ranger" elite soldiers
260 APCs
57 Leopard 2 tanks

80 CPAC-AJ fighters (II wiki for specs)
6 F-22 Raptors
28 Tiger attack helicopters
5 Drones



Librairia and Austoria:
3 hyper-carriers (1 Ausitoria Class and 2 Noble Class, c. 800,000 tons), 6 super-carriers of various types (c. 120,000 tons), 5 battleships (Legion Class, c. 70,000 tons), 6 helicopter/drone carriers (c. 50,000 tons), 10 amphibious assault ships (c. 25,000 tons), 5 battlecruisers (c. 25,000 tons), 12 cruisers (15,000 tons), 14 radar cruisers (Whitpont Class, 10,000 tons), 9 monitors (Whitpont Class, 10,000 tons), 46 light cruisers (c. 6000-8000 tons), 62 corvettes (c. 3000 tons), 16 nuclear attack submarines (various sizes), 20 diesel attack submarines (various sizes).

The number of aircraft would be approximately 1500, although half of them are tankers/AWACs.
naval and aircraft

Current Total: Don't even ask 57,000 infantry, 3 armored units, 15 carriers(I believe), 19 cruisers, 6 Helicopter/Attack carriers, 6 destroyer, 8 frigates, 2 missile frigates, and 6 submarines. (thanks RVN) Edit: does not include Librairia and Austoria's stuff atm. Will update tomorrow. Have a nice night until then.


'continuously updated' (to take a leaf out of Brat's book )

I was thinking of landing in the south-west and conducting ground operations there with Novo Wagondia. Also AA seems pretty tight, so for me at least this would be mainly a ground battle.
Also I posted on the OOC thread asking if he still wants our help, but I didn't get I reply so far, so I'll TG him. Also I don't want to hijack the RP at all with an especially large force, so I'd possibly advise members to keep their contribution down somewhat. Edit: There is an upper limit of 7,500 as the otherwise we would be OP. Finally, do remember logistics when assigning troops (mainly transport and supply).



Oh and Vanitan can draft the treaty at the end.[/quote]

[Valaran]

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btw Novo are you sure this map was official? Its not quite the one they were using in the iC

[Vanitan]

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btw Novo are you sure this map was official? Its not quite the one they were using in the iC

On the thread everything behind the green is non spepratist

[Novo Wagondia]

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btw Novo are you sure this map was official? Its not quite the one they were using in the iC

I cooperated with Baggnagia on it, so I certainly believe so

It may not be up to date on movements, but it shows cities and terrain, which is the important part. I don't know if Baggnagia will continuously update both maps, or only the featureless one

[Valaran]

The Plan so far:

Our joint forces will land in the vicinity of Zarco, and take that town. An idea was to land at different beaches. After that, we may wish to split up and pursue general objectives....

Finally there was also some general possibility of conducting an air assault.

[Vanitan]

The Plan so far:

Our joint forces will land in the vicinity of Zarco, and take that town. An idea was to land at different beaches. After that, we may wish to split up and pursue general objectives....

Finally there was also some general possibility of conducting an air assault.

Remeber we have to have some field hospital's set up to help the civilian hostages

[Valaran]

http://postimg.org/image/tlctck9fj/



btw Novo are you sure this map was official? Its not quite the one they were using in the iC

I cooperated with Baggnagia on it, so I certainly believe so

It may not be up to date on movements, but it shows cities and terrain, which is the important part. I don't know if Baggnagia will continuously update both maps, or only the featureless one

All I needed to hear

(I know it was similar to the other one, it was just this one had all the m hills and cities, and I didn't know if they were canon or not)

[Valaran]

The Plan so far:

Our joint forces will land in the vicinity of Zarco, and take that town. An idea was to land at different beaches. After that, we may wish to split up and pursue general objectives....

Finally there was also some general possibility of conducting an air assault.

Remeber we have to have some field hospital's set up to help the civilian hostages

Oh Yes and we need to evacuate civilians, etc and set up inland hospitals, general aid, reconstruction, etc

[Novo Wagondia]

Remeber we have to have some field hospital's set up to help the civilian hostages

Oh Yes and we need to evacuate civilians, etc and set up inland hospitals, general aid, reconstruction, etc

Would you mind adding the links for the IC war thread and Assistance Request to the OP? It might help, since we won't have to fish through the IFA OOC thread for them

[Valaran]

My other issue is troops numbers.

I feel there should be a max of 5,000 as even if that was the case 10 nations with that number would still make a 50,000 strong army (which is really high)

[The Nation of Ceneria]

I would suggest one coordinated assault, but at three beachheads. The first one on the shore directly adjacent to the town, the other two flanking it. Then you can form a pincer around the town.

OOC: on a phone now, please excuse typos.

[Vanitan]

My other issue is troops numbers.

I feel there should be a max of 5,000 as even if that was the case 10 nations with that number would still make a 50,000 strong army (which is really high)

Okay I'llbe brought down to 5k (I used to be at 35k xD)

[Novo Wagondia]

Remeber we have to have some field hospital's set up to help the civilian hostages

Oh Yes and we need to evacuate civilians, etc and set up inland hospitals, general aid, reconstruction, etc

Certainly. We're not just there as conquerers of the occupied territory, but also to rescue the civilian populations. If things continue as they are I see war crimes trials in our future (if we're able to tackle this rebel regime)

[Vanitan]

I would suggest one coordinated assault, but at three beachheads. The first one on the shore directly adjacent to the town, the other two flanking it. Then you can form a pincer around the town.

OOC: on a phone now, please excuse typos.

If I understand what you're saying that part of the country is land locked

[The Nation of Ceneria]

I would suggest one coordinated assault, but at three beachheads. The first one on the shore directly adjacent to the town, the other two flanking it. Then you can form a pincer around the town.

OOC: on a phone now, please excuse typos.

If I understand what you're saying that part of the country is land locked

Oh. That would make sense. I can't look at the map from here.

NOW I have to go.
Farewell!

[Valaran]

If I understand what you're saying that part of the country is land locked

Oh. That would make sense. I can't look at the map from here.

NOW I have to go.
Farewell!

Aww

see you then

[Vanitan]

Oh. That would make sense. I can't look at the map from here.

NOW I have to go.
Farewell!

Aww

see you then

bai

[Valaran]

Oh Yes and we need to evacuate civilians, etc and set up inland hospitals, general aid, reconstruction, etc

Certainly. We're not just there as conquerers of the occupied territory, but also to rescue the civilian populations. If things continue as they are I see war crimes trials in our future (if we're able to tackle this rebel regime)

Yeah, this is standard practice (at least for me), but just so we all do it. Though I think it should be up to the Baggnaggian Govt. with what happens to the leaders... with international supervision of course.


And troop numbers?

[Novo Wagondia]

If I understand what you're saying that part of the country is land locked

Oh. That would make sense. I can't look at the map from here.

NOW I have to go.
Farewell!

Farewell indeed!

Certainly. We're not just there as conquerers of the occupied territory, but also to rescue the civilian populations. If things continue as they are I see war crimes trials in our future (if we're able to tackle this rebel regime)

Yeah, this is standard practice (at least for me). Though I think it should be up to the Baggnaggian Govt. with what happens to the leaders... with international supervision of course.

Of course; it is, after all, their civilians that have taken the brunt of the oppression

I would suggest one coordinated assault, but at three beachheads. The first one on the shore directly adjacent to the town, the other two flanking it. Then you can form a pincer around the town.

OOC: on a phone now, please excuse typos.

If I understand what you're saying that part of the country is land locked

Perhaps we could do the three beachhead idea on the coast, with one group moving up the Smoljana River towards Zarco itself, and then one more on either side, encircling the city

[Novo Wagondia]

Certainly. We're not just there as conquerers of the occupied territory, but also to rescue the civilian populations. If things continue as they are I see war crimes trials in our future (if we're able to tackle this rebel regime)

Yeah, this is standard practice (at least for me), but just so we all do it. Though I think it should be up to the Baggnaggian Govt. with what happens to the leaders... with international supervision of course.


And troop numbers?

Oh, yes. I suppose I'll reduce mine to 7,100 (unless 5,000 is the new maximum?)

[Valaran]

Yeah, this is standard practice (at least for me), but just so we all do it. Though I think it should be up to the Baggnaggian Govt. with what happens to the leaders... with international supervision of course.


And troop numbers?

Oh, yes. I suppose I'll reduce mine to 7,100 (unless 5,000 is the new maximum?)

Do you think it should be? If it was we would have around 25,000 men. I thinks that's reasonable, but any more than 35,000 might be getting excessive.

[Vanitan]

Yeah, this is standard practice (at least for me), but just so we all do it. Though I think it should be up to the Baggnaggian Govt. with what happens to the leaders... with international supervision of course.


And troop numbers?

Oh, yes. I suppose I'll reduce mine to 7,100 (unless 5,000 is the new maximum?)

sigh 5k that leaves me with Jugac just got that much harder

[Valaran]

Oh, yes. I suppose I'll reduce mine to 7,100 (unless 5,000 is the new maximum?)

sigh 5k that leaves me with Jugac just got that much harder

Well I was planning to attack Jugac as well...

[Bratislav]

Let's fit in an aerial bombardment of rebel positions before our actual ground troops enter, I'm ready to do that.