Could it really work: The Purge

[Zelan]

I went to see The Purge: Anarchy yesterday. The question I am asking you is this: could it really work? The Purge is a Govt sanctioned period of total chaos, one night a year for 12 hours where any and all crime, including murder, is legal. And supposedly as a result of this crime is at a record low and unemployment is also at an all time low.
I put this in General rather then Fiction because I'm asking you about if something like this could actually work.
Let's hear what the NS Community has to say.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

No, it could not work, and no sane government would ever consider implementing it. Why? You'd have countless people complaining for the other 364.5 days of the year that oh their house was burned down, their parents were murdered, their sister was raped, etc.

That's why it's a movie. "Fun" movie plot to get people to open their wallets, but should not be used as a practical real-world instrument.

[Arglorand]

That sounds like a really, really, really shit plotline and you just put me off watching that movie.

[Chestaan]

No. I doubt removing laws with have such a great effect as people think. You're next door neighbour isn't suddenly going to rape you just because he's no longer legally obliged not to.

And in such a case I imagine a pseudo-police force would spring up. I mean it's America for fuck sake, everyone and their nan has a gun, and organising a force for one day to protect citizens from crime would not only be relatively easy, but it would also negate most of the crime increase.

[Chestaan]

No, it could not work, and no sane government would ever consider implementing it. Why? You'd have countless people complaining for the other 364.5 days of the year that oh their house was burned down, their parents were murdered, their sister was raped, etc.

That's why it's a movie. "Fun" movie plot to get people to open their wallets, but should not be used as a practical real-world instrument.

Oh boo hoo. People are such a whiny load of bastards. Purge the lot I say!

[Scomagia]

No, and it's a stupid idea. Most people wouldn't participate, mostly because most people aren't fucking psychopaths. All that would happen is the sadistic and extremely violent among us would have free reign to kill normal people. It's a dumb premise and a lousy movie.

[Vicious Debaters]

Quite impractical.

People are some scary fuckers beneath the surface, and we all have deep reservoirs of pent up aggression. You give everyone a 12-hour period to do whatever they want without any law and they'll wreck so much havoc on your society that the entire state will collapse permanently afterwards.

Millions would be dead. No power would be running, because all the lines would be cut. Massive fires would engulf the cities, all the shops would have been broken into and trashed. Politicians, policemen, everyone in a position of authority would be murdered and viciously mutilated by their enemies and rivals. After those 12 hours, America would resemble post-WW2 Germany or worse.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Quite impractical.

People are some scary fuckers beneath the surface, and we all have deep reservoirs of pent up aggression. You give everyone a 12-hour period to do whatever they want without any law and they'll wreck so much havoc on your society that the entire state will collapse permanently afterwards.

Millions would be dead. No power would be running, because all the lines would be cut. Massive fires would engulf the cities, all the shops would have been broken into and trashed. Politicians, policemen, everyone in a position of authority would be murdered and viciously mutilated by their enemies and rivals. After those 12 hours, America would resemble post-WW2 Germany or worse.

Yup.

By the way op, you're supposed to give your opinion.

Do you think it could work?

[Napkiraly]

It'd work if your intention was to fuck up society.

[Zelan]

Quite impractical.

People are some scary fuckers beneath the surface, and we all have deep reservoirs of pent up aggression. You give everyone a 12-hour period to do whatever they want without any law and they'll wreck so much havoc on your society that the entire state will collapse permanently afterwards.

Millions would be dead. No power would be running, because all the lines would be cut. Massive fires would engulf the cities, all the shops would have been broken into and trashed. Politicians, policemen, everyone in a position of authority would be murdered and viciously mutilated by their enemies and rivals. After those 12 hours, America would resemble post-WW2 Germany or worse.

Yup.



By the way op, you're supposed to give your opinion.

Do you think it could work?

No i don't think it would work. For the reasons outlined by Lancaster up there. I thought it was good movie, and that's all it is A MOVIE not to be taken seriously.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I've heard worse ideas.

Wait, no, I haven't.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

No i don't think it would work. For the reasons outlined by Lancaster up there. I thought it was good movie, and that's all it is A MOVIE not to be taken seriously.

And that's the end of the thread! Thanks for coming!

[Nervium]

I heard it had bad reviews, so no.

[Murbleflip]

It'd work if your intention was to fuck up society.

Basically so. The reason crime is illegal is because it's a bad thing.

In addition, how exactly does this reduce people's capacity to commit crime the rest of the time? And how exactly does this suspension of illegality work? If you kidnap someone during that period, doesn't that mean that it's legal, even if you keep them locked up for another 6 weeks? And if you break out of prison, that means it's legal, so it would become impossible to sentence people to anything over a year in prison.

[Rocopurr]

I don't see how it would significantly lower crime rates. People aren't necessarily going to wait all year for The Purge; there'd still be crime happening on a daily basis.

[Margno]

The people in that movie lacked creativity. Seriously,that's what you're gonna do with your free pass to ignore the law? Murders? A robbery or two? They missed the opportunity to carve a hitler mustache into the Lincoln Memorial.

[Magna Libero]

Eh, that movie is just stupid. It's somehow trying to prove that the state or the police is needed, but according to my watching the trailer it clearly failed. It is a totally ignorant movie with no reality. But to answer your question, sure it can. Somalia is a chaos -- or anocracy to be precise. Somalia has evolved as a nation and it is doing better than before the state by looking at the living standards, even though it is violent and it hasn't needed a state.

[Freethinking Anarchists]

No and stop fucking calling it anarchism. It's decentralized anocracy, not anarchism.

[New Carloso]

Not without a full blown revolution by just about every person in the country.

[Vicious Debaters]

Eh, that movie is just stupid. It's somehow trying to prove that the state or the police is needed, but according to my watching the trailer it clearly failed. It is a totally ignorant movie with no reality. But to answer your question, sure it can. Somalia is a chaos -- or anocracy to be precise. Somalia has evolved as a nation and it is doing better than before the state by looking at the living standards, even though it is violent and it hasn't needed a state.

In a chaotic state other powers rule with the absence of a strong government. The local elders, or warlords, or whatever.

I think if you tore away the power structure of a rigidly organized first-world society for a day, I think the impact would be much more destructive as people release all their pent-up desires and emotions and there isn't enough time for the newfound power vaccum to be replaced.

[Alcase]

It's a movie.

[Arkolon]

No. I doubt removing laws with have such a great effect as people think. You're next door neighbour isn't suddenly going to rape you just because he's no longer legally obliged not to.

And in such a case I imagine a pseudo-police force would spring up. I mean it's America for fuck sake, everyone and their nan has a gun, and organising a force for one day to protect citizens from crime would not only be relatively easy, but it would also negate most of the crime increase.

Eh, that movie is just stupid. It's somehow trying to prove that the state or the police is needed, but according to my watching the trailer it clearly failed. It is a totally ignorant movie with no reality. But to answer your question, sure it can. Somalia is a chaos -- or anocracy to be precise. Somalia has evolved as a nation and it is doing better than before the state by looking at the living standards, even though it is violent and it hasn't needed a state.

/thread, really.

[United Marxist Nations]

No. I doubt removing laws with have such a great effect as people think. You're next door neighbour isn't suddenly going to rape you just because he's no longer legally obliged not to.

And in such a case I imagine a pseudo-police force would spring up. I mean it's America for fuck sake, everyone and their nan has a gun, and organising a force for one day to protect citizens from crime would not only be relatively easy, but it would also negate most of the crime increase.

^This.

[Zelan]

It's a movie.

There ya go. Just throwing the idea out there, but yeah; just a movie.

[Dooom35796821595]

Let's look at one place without law and order, Somalia.

TERRIBLE IDEA! They don't even know how to be pirates