by Trollzilla » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:30 am
by Trollzilla » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:34 am
by The Yorkshire Commonwealth » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:34 am
by Trollzilla » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:37 am
by Greed and Death » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:11 am
The Yorkshire Commonwealth wrote:So there's a debate at the top level about whether or not a company should be able to not pay it's dues just because it's directors claim their church told them it was naughty?
Odd country.
by Volnotova » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:16 am
Trollzilla wrote:It is my position that these companies are more likely using religious freedom as a smoke screen to avoid their legal responsibilities to provide employer funded health care benefits to their employees. This is more about corporate profits than it is religious freedom.
by Ifreann » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:29 am
Trollzilla wrote:It is now 4:30 am Pacific time and 7:30 am Eastern Time in the United States. In just a few hours the Supreme Court of the United States is expected to issue what many consider to be the most important ruling of 2014 for the American people.
The nine justice will decide whether or not religious freedom may be restricted in the name of women's absolute right to contraception and abortion and to force other people to pay for it.
by Ashmoria » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:38 am
Ifreann wrote:Trollzilla wrote:It is now 4:30 am Pacific time and 7:30 am Eastern Time in the United States. In just a few hours the Supreme Court of the United States is expected to issue what many consider to be the most important ruling of 2014 for the American people.
The nine justice will decide whether or not religious freedom may be restricted in the name of women's absolute right to contraception and abortion and to force other people to pay for it.
Bet that's not what they're actually deciding, though.
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:45 am
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by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:51 am
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by Ifreann » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:16 am
Ashmoria wrote:Ifreann wrote:Bet that's not what they're actually deciding, though.
no
its more "if corporations are people too, can they have a religious conscience that overrules some details of federal law?"
or "if you own a corporation yourself can your religious beliefs count as the beliefs of the corporation?"
by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:17 am
Ifreann wrote:Ashmoria wrote:no
its more "if corporations are people too, can they have a religious conscience that overrules some details of federal law?"
or "if you own a corporation yourself can your religious beliefs count as the beliefs of the corporation?"
I rather thought as much.
Why would people be getting off their asses here? I'm pretty sure judges sit down at the bench.
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by Ifreann » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:18 am
by The Time Alliance » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:20 am
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:We should get everyone off their asses more often, I feel that this will go south :\
by Blekksprutia » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:45 am
by The North Polish Union » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:52 am
Blekksprutia wrote:Predictions, anyone?
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.
by The Time Alliance » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:34 am
by Vazdania » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:54 am
Trollzilla wrote:It is now 4:30 am Pacific time and 7:30 am Eastern Time in the United States. In just a few hours the Supreme Court of the United States is expected to issue what many consider to be the most important ruling of 2014 for the American people.
The nine justice will decide whether or not religious freedom may be restricted in the name of women's absolute right to contraception and abortion and to force other people to pay for it.
The justices will also decide whether corporations have religious rights or whether freedom of religion applies only to individuals.
These decisions will arrive sometime after 10 am eastern time.
At issue are two companies. One whose owners are practising Christians and another company whose owners are not very religious but are claiming religious freedom just to get out having to pay for extra healthcare for their employees.
One of the companies has claimed that the morning after pill is actually an abortion pill. The pill in question, however, does not kill fetuses, but rather prevents the woman's egg from becoming fertilized. Once the sperm enters the egg, for those of you who are not aware of this, it takes up to 24 hours for it to make it through the egg to center where it has to go before fertilization can even start. The morning after pill prevents this by flushing the egg before fertilization can begin. No fertilization, no fetus, no abortion. To call it an abortion pill is therefore, misleading.
But even that will be minor compared to the question of whether corporations have a right to religious freedom objections to reasonable secular laws. The courts in the United States have never ruled on whether the first amendment religious freedom clause applies to corporations or whether that right can be used to prevent people from exercising their reasonable rights.
What do you think the court will do?
by Maineiacs » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:55 am
by Vazdania » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:56 am
Maineiacs wrote:Yay! First, corporations are people; next, only corporations will be people.
by Liriena » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:57 am
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by Maineiacs » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:57 am
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