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If there was an election tomorrow in Ireland who would you vote for?

Fine Gael (EPP)
5
8%
Labour (S&D, But has gone REALLY RIGHT WING)
8
13%
Sinn Féin (EUL-NGL)
19
31%
Fianna Fáil (ALDE, But are pretty right-wing)
8
13%
Green Party (Greens-EFA)
5
8%
Other Left (Socialist Party, SWP etc.) (All Members of EUL-NGL)
13
21%
Other Parties (Non Inscrits
3
5%
Independents (Non Inscrits)
1
2%
 
Total votes : 62

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Irish Election Thread (Includes Poll.)

Postby Inuitland » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:37 am

I've created this due to the local elections and European elections coming up.
I've listed the Eurowide parties that they are members of.
I'm so fed up with most parties (as is most Irish people) that I'd vote for Sinn Fein, Other Left and Independent.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:41 am

Eww, Sinn Fein. No thanks.
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Postby Inuitland » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:51 am

Ifreann wrote:Eww, Sinn Fein. No thanks.

That's what a lot of people think.
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Postby United Regions of Verona » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:54 am

Fianna Fáil. Maybe. Maybe Sinn Féin.
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Postby Inuitland » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:57 am

United Regions of Verona wrote:Fianna Fáil. Maybe. Maybe Sinn Féin.

So you're a republican?
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Postby Dejanic » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:02 am

How right wing is the Irish Labour party, compared to say the British Labour party?

I'd support "other left".
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Postby Britannic Realms » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:44 am

I'll go for Labour. I don't like Fine Gael, I'm not voting for any party which was once led by Eamon de Valera and I'm certainly not voting for terrorists.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:48 am

I'm going for Labour.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:15 am

Labour seems good. Fianna Fáil is moderate, and I'd support them, but they seem agrarian, populist, and socially conservative as well, which is bad.
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Postby Gezi Park » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:16 am

I'm not an expert on it but let's say Labour.
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Postby Dejanic » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:18 am

The Scientific States wrote:Labour seems good. Fianna Fáil is moderate, and I'd support them, but they see, agrarian, populist, and socially conservative, which is bad.

You're going to struggle to find many parties in Ireland that aren't social conservative in all fairness, even Sinn Fein doesn't support fully legalised abortion.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:19 am

Dejanic wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Labour seems good. Fianna Fáil is moderate, and I'd support them, but they see, agrarian, populist, and socially conservative, which is bad.

You're going to struggle to find many parties in Ireland that aren't social conservative in all fairness, even Sinn Fein doesn't support fully legalised abortion.


I'm reading about all the Irish parties, and all of them seem socially conservative. Dammit Ireland. :p
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Postby SaintB » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:19 am

I know less about Irish Politics than I do about Irish food, and until recently I thought corned beef was Irish.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:20 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Dejanic wrote:You're going to struggle to find many parties in Ireland that aren't social conservative in all fairness, even Sinn Fein doesn't support fully legalised abortion.


I'm reading about all the Irish parties, and all of them seem socially conservative. Dammit Ireland. :p

Ireland Social conservative Capital of West Europe.

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Postby Alvaria and Cagwenyn » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:21 am

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Postby Dejanic » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:22 am

SaintB wrote:I know less about Irish Politics than I do about Irish food, and until recently I thought corned beef was Irish.

It's one of those foods that are associated with a country but doesn't actually originate from it. Just like the good lean "British" Turkey. :rofl:
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Postby Dejanic » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:24 am

The Time Alliance wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I'm reading about all the Irish parties, and all of them seem socially conservative. Dammit Ireland. :p

Ireland Social conservative Capital of West Europe.

There's quite a lot of competition for that spot actually, I'd throw Spain and Portugal into the mix. Certain area's of Scotland are pretty horrific.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:27 am

Dejanic wrote:
SaintB wrote:I know less about Irish Politics than I do about Irish food, and until recently I thought corned beef was Irish.

It's one of those foods that are associated with a country but doesn't actually originate from it. Just like the good lean "British" Turkey. :rofl:

I'm about as qualified to vote in an Irish election as my neighbors are an American one
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:27 am

Dejanic wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Ireland Social conservative Capital of West Europe.

There's quite a lot of competition for that spot actually, I'd throw Spain and Portugal into the mix. Certain area's of Scotland are pretty horrific.


Spain and Portugal? Both countries were ranked some of the most LGBT friendly places in the world, and Portugal decriminalized all drugs.

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Postby Dejanic » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:30 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Dejanic wrote:There's quite a lot of competition for that spot actually, I'd throw Spain and Portugal into the mix. Certain area's of Scotland are pretty horrific.


Spain and Portugal? Both countries were ranked some of the most LGBT friendly places in the world, and Portugal decriminalized all drugs.

The key word is certain.

I'm pretty sure every country in Europe is part of the most "LGBT friendly places", compared to competition in Africa and the middle east it' pretty fantastic over here.

And drugs? You don't think Pat Robertson takes a bong toke before every show?

Seriously though, the countries are staunchly catholic and immigrants aren't exactly treated well. Abortion is also getting illegalised in Spain soon.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:30 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Dejanic wrote:You're going to struggle to find many parties in Ireland that aren't social conservative in all fairness, even Sinn Fein doesn't support fully legalised abortion.


I'm reading about all the Irish parties, and all of them seem socially conservative. Dammit Ireland. :p

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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:32 am

Dejanic wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Spain and Portugal? Both countries were ranked some of the most LGBT friendly places in the world, and Portugal decriminalized all drugs.

The key word is certain.

I'm pretty sure every country in Europe is part of the most "LGBT friendly places", compared to competition in Africa and the middle east it' pretty fantastic over here.

And drugs? You don't think Pat Robertson takes a bong toke before every show?

Seriously though, the countries are staunchly catholic and immigrants aren't exactly treated well.


Spain ranks above any other nation.
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I'm just pointing out that Decriminalization of drugs isn't socially conservative.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:34 am

Dejanic wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Spain and Portugal? Both countries were ranked some of the most LGBT friendly places in the world, and Portugal decriminalized all drugs.

The key word is certain.

I'm pretty sure every country in Europe is part of the most "LGBT friendly places", compared to competition in Africa and the middle east it' pretty fantastic over here.

And drugs? You don't think Pat Robertson takes a bong toke before every show?

Seriously though, the countries are staunchly catholic and immigrants aren't exactly treated well. Abortion is also getting illegalised in Spain soon.

Good. Wait. Will abortion be legal in cases of rape or threatening to a mother's life? Or banned all together?

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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:35 am

Dejanic wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Spain and Portugal? Both countries were ranked some of the most LGBT friendly places in the world, and Portugal decriminalized all drugs.

The key word is certain.

I'm pretty sure every country in Europe is part of the most "LGBT friendly places", compared to competition in Africa and the middle east it' pretty fantastic over here.

And drugs? You don't think Pat Robertson takes a bong toke before every show?

Seriously though, the countries are staunchly catholic and immigrants aren't exactly treated well. Abortion is also getting illegalised in Spain soon.


Did they already pass a law regarding abortion becoming illegal?
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Postby Dejanic » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:37 am

The Time Alliance wrote:
Dejanic wrote:I'm pretty sure every country in Europe is part of the most "LGBT friendly places", compared to competition in Africa and the middle east it' pretty fantastic over here.

And drugs? You don't think Pat Robertson takes a bong toke before every show?

Seriously though, the countries are staunchly catholic and immigrants aren't exactly treated well. Abortion is also getting illegalised in Spain soon.

Good. Wait. Will abortion be legal in cases of rape or threatening to a mother's life? Or banned all together?

Legal in cases of rape or life threatening situations, but the woman has to go through a hefty process and get multiple doctors to vouch for her. This is actually reactionary as abortion is currently legal on demand, so it's not even social conservatism, it's a step beyond that.
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