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Gay Weddings Legalized in....wait, Vietnam?

Postby Blasveck » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:32 am

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/societ ... etnam.html

In 2012, two weddings of a gay and a lesbian couple were held in the southern provinces of Kien Giang and Ca Mau.

The local authorities intervened and imposed a fine on them, given that the weddings were "contrary to the habits and customs of Vietnam" and the Law on Marriage & Family of Vietnam, which bans marriage between persons of the same sex

However, according to Decree No. 110/2013/ND-CP which took effect on November 12, marriage between people of the same sex has been rejected from the banned cases of marriage. It means that the organization of wedding parties between people of the same sex (without marriage registration) will not be illegal any more and they will not have to pay fine.

The gay couples will have the right to live together and organize weddings.


So, yeah, apparently gay weddings are now legal in Vietnam.
Note that this is not legal marriage. Not yet, I'm sure.

What say ye, NSG?
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Postby Divair » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:35 am

I didn't see that coming. Congrats Vietnam.
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Postby MYAWESOMENESS » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:36 am

wow didn't see that comin

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:37 am

Hm. Rather unexpected. Good to hear though, nonetheless.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:37 am

Divair wrote:I didn't see that coming. Congrats Vietnam.


And what's sad is this is just going to come off as "proof" that gay marriage is a socialist/communist plot to the right wing.

After all, Vietnam = Ho Chi Minh to these folks.
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Postby Mollary » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:37 am

Well, it doesn't go quite far enough, but for a one party state; not bad.
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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:38 am

Gauthier wrote:
Divair wrote:I didn't see that coming. Congrats Vietnam.


And what's sad is this is just going to come off as "proof" that gay marriage is a socialist/communist plot to the right wing.

After all, Vietnam = Ho Chi Minh to these folks.

I was actually just thinking that as well....
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Postby Belburg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:39 am

Vietnam what are you doing :palm:
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:39 am

Progress even where progress is generally rare.

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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:40 am

What did I just see. The impossible happened.

Huh. Better check the State Television more often.
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Imagine me falling on my knees in the middle of a lecture after reading this and saying "...No."

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:41 am

Belburg wrote:Vietnam what are you doing :palm:

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Postby The Carlisle » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:43 am

So now the US is behind Vietnam when it comes to Legalizing same sex marriage.
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Postby Lost heros » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:44 am

Am I reading this right? Because it looks like it says, gay people can have a wedding, but they can't get married...
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:44 am

Gaelic Celtia wrote:
Belburg wrote:Vietnam what are you doing :palm:

Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.

"Dark Ages" can be hard hitting, you know. :eyebrow:
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Postby Ellettsville First Methodist Church » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 am

Not another godless bootyism communist country legalizing a basic human right, how dare they acknowledge civil rights
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Postby Aekrim » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 am

The Carlisle wrote:So now the US is behind Vietnam when it comes to Legalizing same sex marriage.

This....is..humilating....for.....Murica? :p

Good job Vietnam. Even you, made it :hug:

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Postby Blasveck » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:45 am

Lost heros wrote:Am I reading this right? Because it looks like it says, gay people can have a wedding, but they can't get married...

That is indeed the case, as far as I can tell.

Though probably not for long.
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Postby Gigaverse » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:47 am

Blasveck wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Am I reading this right? Because it looks like it says, gay people can have a wedding, but they can't get married...

That is indeed the case, as far as I can tell.

Though probably not for long.

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Postby Belburg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:48 am

Gaelic Celtia wrote:
Belburg wrote:Vietnam what are you doing :palm:

Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.


How is it a progress?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:49 am

Gauthier wrote:
Divair wrote:I didn't see that coming. Congrats Vietnam.

And what's sad is this is just going to come off as "proof" that gay marriage is a socialist/communist plot to the right wing.

After all, Vietnam = Ho Chi Minh to these folks.

Well, Soviet communism taught us that homosexuality was something that only occurred in the decadent capitalistic world. Apparently it had something to do with bourgeois perversions and the corrupting influences of the higher class. However, it's more likely the Soviets, just as their fellow capitalistic/religious homophobes just pulled it out of their collective arses. The abstract concept of morality makes people say the stupidest things.

But to return to the original subject, it must be said that I'm pleasantly surprised with this development in Vietnam.
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Postby Tekania » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:49 am

Blasveck wrote:http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/society/89082/same-sex-weddings-officially-permitted-in-vietnam.html

In 2012, two weddings of a gay and a lesbian couple were held in the southern provinces of Kien Giang and Ca Mau.

The local authorities intervened and imposed a fine on them, given that the weddings were "contrary to the habits and customs of Vietnam" and the Law on Marriage & Family of Vietnam, which bans marriage between persons of the same sex

However, according to Decree No. 110/2013/ND-CP which took effect on November 12, marriage between people of the same sex has been rejected from the banned cases of marriage. It means that the organization of wedding parties between people of the same sex (without marriage registration) will not be illegal any more and they will not have to pay fine.

The gay couples will have the right to live together and organize weddings.


So, yeah, apparently gay weddings are now legal in Vietnam.
Note that this is not legal marriage. Not yet, I'm sure.

What say ye, NSG?


While, I suppose it's progress in Vietnam, simply not fining people for holding same-sex ceremonies without any legal benefit is hardly "being legalized"....

Congrats Vietnam.... you're now up to par with the most die-hard anti-SSM US states.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:51 am

Belburg wrote:
Gaelic Celtia wrote:Progressing beyond the Dark Ages into the 21st century.

How is it a progress?

Civil rights. You know, those things you guys had a lot less of back when the Baltic region was firmly embraced by the loving arms of the Soviet Union.
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Postby Ursymnia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:51 am

I am happy, surprised and confused. wut.

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Postby Belburg » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:52 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Belburg wrote:How is it a progress?

Civil rights. You know, those things you guys had a lot less of back when the Baltic region was firmly embraced by the loving arms of the Soviet Union.


I don't mind if people are gay or bi or whatever they are today but I am against same sex marriage.
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